Cross Genre Match #17: Mace Windu vs Iron Spider-Man

Started by Starscream M11 pages

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Generally droid armies have one or two organic commanders who are usually safe in command bunkers, on ships, or in armored vehicles.

And often times their missions are semi-genocidal to start with. So I don't see how gassing would be a bad idea for the Seps.

the droid army using lasers is more an artistic decision...not a practical one

hell, they'd be far more successfull if they just relied on vietnam era bombers with napalm

Originally posted by Starscream M
the droid army using lasers is more an artistic decision...not a practical one

hell, they'd be far more successfull if they just relied on vietnam era bombers with napalm


Star Wars has always been about Impractical but Cool technology.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Star Wars has always been about Impractical but Cool technology.
Science Fiction in general, the whole idea of using almost 1:1 human looking robots as soldiers is kinda dumb. Just build 1 Druidica (<- spelling? These rolling mofos with shields) instead of 50 normal droids.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Science Fiction in general, the whole idea of using almost 1:1 human looking robots as soldiers is kinda dumb. Just build 1 Druidica (<- spelling? These rolling mofos with shields) instead of 50 normal droids.
a strategic nuke is prob more effective than anything star wars has ever shown

I don't follow SW...but I had always assumed they had somehow explained away nukes and such (ie through a galactic ban or some such nonsense)

Originally posted by Starscream M
a strategic nuke is prob more effective than anything star wars has ever shown

I don't follow SW...but I had always assumed they had somehow explained away nukes and such (ie through a galactic ban or some such nonsense)


Star Wars has nukes...they're less powerful than the heavy cannons on major star ships however. Also they render a target uninhabitable for a while whereas an ordinary energy weapon does not.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nuclear_bomb

And there's the Death Star that blows up planets...

Mace Windu is incredibly fast...
From the RotS novel, "Vaapad, the seventh form of lightsaber combat, takes its name from a notoriously dangerous predator native to the moons of Sarapin: a vaapad attacks its prey with whipping strikes of its blindingly fast tentacles. Most have at least seven. It is not uncommon for them to have as many as twelve; the largest ever killed had twenty-three. With a vaapad, one never knew how many tentacles it had until it was dead: they move too fast to count. Almost too fast to see. So did Mace's blade."

"Mace pressed back the darkness with a relentless straight-ahead march; his own blade, that distinctive amethyst blaze that had been the final sight of so many evil beings across the galaxy, made a haze of its own: an oblate sphere of purple fire within which there seemed to be dozens of swords slashing in all directions at once."

From Shatterpoint, "And even hurt, lurching drunkenly, Vaster still could whip his arms in blindingly fast raking slaps at Mace's head and wounded neck. But where Vastor's speed was blinding, Mace's was invisible. Not one of those slaps connected.

Before Vastor could even focus his eyes, Mace had hit him six times: two thundering hooks to his short ribs, a knee slamming hard into the same thigh he'd hit before, an elbow snapping up to the point of his chin, and two devastating palm strikes to either hinge of his jaw."

"Then he hit Vastor twice in the nose before the lor pelek could even blink."

As for his relfexes, Mace Windu has defeated Greivous in saber combat and Greivous can attack up to twelve times per second. He also "defeated" Sidious who moved so fast he was described as merely a blur and was able to kill three Jedi in as many seconds.

He also has Shatterpoint which not only allows him to find the weak spot in objects, but in a duel as well. Meaning he can use it to find a weakness of Spiderman. For example, in RotS he uses the Shatterpoint technique against Sidious. In the lightsaber duel it is the window, so he cuts open the window making Sidious sacrafice some of his speed in order to use the force to keep himself from slipping. This is ultimately what allowed Mace to win.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Going by logic why is a robot army using firearms at all against living creatures instead of just gasing them?

Well, to be fair, most of the clone army seemed like they had gas masks. 😛

Originally posted by ares834
Mace Windu...
YouTube video

In both...


agreed.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Epic fail, care to proof how fast these "hundreds of lasers" move? From the vid I can tell you their slow as ass cause well I can SEE their movement... And it's not Spidey is doing shit like that 24/7.

dude this is garbage logic. If you could not see there movements, then it look pretty dam lame.........

they were clearly mvoe very fast becuase not single clone trooper could react to them.

Originally posted by illadelph12

Mace just force crushed his rib cage (which is inadmissible in scenario #1). Mace never fights Dooku or Asajj Ventress to my knowledge so there's nothing there to show what he would do against an opponent with some actual ability. Honestly, there really isn't much to go on besides his raping of a bunch of inept idiot robots.


Actaully he fought both of them. He fought Dooku a top a train and he was attacked by a bunch of grevous men in which dooku fled. Dooku was scared shitless of mace and always tried to flee if possable. He dam well new he was no match. Asajj Ventress got straight up destroyed when she fought Mace and had to run away, the only reaosn she even got away is ebcause mace had to go back to save some jedi.

Do you have a clip of this, or is it from the books?

Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
Actaully he fought both of them. He fought Dooku a top a train and he was attacked by a bunch of grevous men in which dooku fled. Dooku was scared shitless of mace and always tried to flee if possable. He dam well new he was no match. Asajj Ventress got straight up destroyed when she fought Mace and had to run away, the only reaosn she even got away is ebcause mace had to go back to save some jedi.

Interesting considering that along with Yoda Dooku was one of the only members of the Jedi Order who could beat Windu in a sparring match.

Just because Dooku was wise enough to avoid an unnecessary battle that he had a decent chance of losing doesn't mean he was "scared shitless".

You don't have to elevate a favored character at the expense of others.

Hmm...

Didn't Dooku tell Asajj that one of the reason's she wasn't a Sith is because Sith have no fear and he sensed great fear in her? I remember that scene specifically from the old Clone Wars cartoon. I'll see if I can find the clip on my lunchbreak (don't have access to Youtube from here at work).

On the subject of Dooku vs Mace in an episode of the current series Dooku held his own against Windu and Obi Wan Kenobi at the same time, so clearly Windu isn't vastly superior to him.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Hmm...

Didn't Dooku tell Asajj that one of the reason's she wasn't a Sith is because Sith have no fear and he sensed great fear in her? I remember that scene specifically from the old Clone Wars cartoon. I'll see if I can find the clip on my lunchbreak (don't have access to Youtube from here at work).


Yeah, she could never be a Sith. She was just a Dark Jedi.

wow...me and battlehammer actually agree on something...and we never agree

that means I must be right!

Originally posted by Starscream M
wow...me and battlehammer actually agree on something...and we never agree

that means I must be right!


Or you could both be wrong. As you are now.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Using this explanation, Han Solo has ftl reflexes as he dodged a shot from a blaster that travelled across a table (Episode IV with Greeno).

I'm gonna have to call shenanigans on that.

that was edited in those remakes to make han solo look less like a coldhearted murderer.

solo just blew dude's brains out

Originally posted by psycho gundam
that was edited in those remakes to make han solo look less like a coldhearted murderer.

Honestly I can't see the fuss. If anything it makes him seem more like a real smuggler/outlaw.

Oh that Lucas and his 90s whitewashing. 🙄

The issue isn't whether or not it's politically correct, the issue is that Lucas's meddling makes the event canon. I also hated what he did to the lounge singer on Jaba the Hutt's barge, and especially the ending celebration with the Ewoks at the end of Return of the Jedi. The original scenes were way better (and hilarious as f*ck too. I still remember the original Ewok song). Lucas went way too far with the CGI.