Cross Genre Match #17: Mace Windu vs Iron Spider-Man

Mace clearly wins scenario two. That's spite so lets only dicuss scenario 1.

Here's the breakdown.

Does blasters beams move faster than Spidey, like light speed or faster?
If so then Mace can win by simply dodging Spidey's first limb attack and countering with a lightsaber attack. Or mace could just block Spidey's limb attack with the lightsaber (cutting Spidey's limb off). Spidey has a chance to win via the webbing though. This is the key for him. He can shoot it in a very wide spread at super speed. This would slow Mace down a little (since he has to use time to cut through it) giving Spidey the opportunity to land a good blow. The Spider sense should guide him in this effort. All in all I say split here or Mace a slight majority.

If the blasters don't move as fast as Spidey (under light speed) then Spidey wins a slight majority due to being faster than Mace and will use that speed to one or two shot kill him (maybe after countering Mace's first attack).

At first looking at the video I though Mace easily wins both. But with some of you guys arguments I say it can go either way depending on who counters first and how fast these guys really are.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Interesting considering that along with Yoda Dooku was one of the only members of the Jedi Order who could beat Windu in a sparring match.

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As for match 1: Mace will be relying almost exclusively on strength/speed here -- and tbh, I don't think any of his feats in that department are in the league of what a PIS/CIS free Iron Spidey is capable of. The only thing that might help him in this match is pre-cog, but judging by his battle with Grievous in LoE, in which the environment rendered Mace unable to use the force offensively, I don't even think pre-cog is a reliable enough tool against a very fast opponent.

Spidey 8-9/10.

Match 2: Spidey isn't evil. Therefore Mace will not be able to use Vaapad to channel Spidey's inner darkness into his own 'weapon of the light' (as he did vs. Sidious.) But Mace will still have options like... Shatterpoint: if Spidey's suit, or Spidey himself have a weakness, Mace can see it AND use the force to exploit it -- force choke/crush: we saw Mace easily use the force to crush Grievous' armored chest area from a good distance away in the CWC -- force shield: Mace used this ability to block a bombardment of laser fire in LoE -- and obviously Mace will still have his super battle droid crushing strength/speed/skill.

Mace 10/10 here.

I don't think anyone here would argue that Spidey looses in scenario 2.

Most (at least my) responses were for scenario 1.

Scenario #1's the only thing in dispute. #2 (which was originally supposed to be that Mace could manipulate the battlefield with the Force, a la launching objects at Spidey, but not all Force powers like Force Choke/Crush/Grab/Push which are unblockable for Peter) is pretty much a dead issue. Mace with all of his powers would be a good match for someone like Psylocke or non-Phoenix "Marvel Girl" Jean Grey.

scenario 1= Spidey ftw

scenario 2= Master Windu ftw

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Interesting considering that along with Yoda Dooku was one of the only members of the Jedi Order who could beat Windu in a sparring match.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Didn't Dooku tell Asajj that one of the reason's she wasn't a Sith is because Sith have no fear and he sensed great fear in her? I remember that scene specifically from the old Clone Wars cartoon. I'll see if I can find the clip on my lunchbreak (don't have access to Youtube from here at work).

Originally posted by Omega Vision
On the subject of Dooku vs Mace in an episode of the current series Dooku held his own against Windu and Obi Wan Kenobi at the same time, so clearly Windu isn't vastly superior to him.

Originally posted by ares834
Which is prior to Mace becoming the saber prodigy that he is. Heck, it is unlikely that he even had developed Vaapad at this point.

Yeah he says that... But he clearly is lying. Many Sith including Dooku, Sidious, Vader, etc have fear.

? When did this happen? I have watched all of the episodes released so far and Dooku has never fought Windu in them. The only time they have fought while Dooku was a Sith was at Boz Pity and Dooku, despite having the help of some Magna-Guards, fled from Windu.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
I don't think anyone here would argue that Spidey looses in scenario 2.

I would! Mace rapes him. Lightsaber/force or not.

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The only way Wolverine would stand a chance against Spidey at least for more than 3 seconds 😎

Originally posted by Parmaniac
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The only way Wolverine would stand a chance against Spidey at least for more than 3 seconds 😎

Hugh Jackman =/= Wolverine. He ain't even close.

Tobey Maguire as Spider-Man, on the other hand... he's perfect for that role. Such a crybaby.

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On-topic:

1) Mace cuts him in half.

2) Mace crushes his brain (if he has any, that is).

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Sith Lords can have fear, but I highly doubt that even as fearsome a Jedi as Windu could make one "scared shitless".

He seems to terrify Palpatine...

"He could feel the end of this battle approaching, and so could the blur of Sith he faced; in the Force, the shadow had become a pulsar of fear. Easily, almost effortlessly, he turned the shadow's fear into a weapon: he angled the battle to bring them both out onto the window ledge."

The Shadow is Palpatine.

^ Most people are going to get scared when they're seconds away from getting beheaded. 😛

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I would! Mace rapes him. Lightsaber/force or not.

Poor spidey, I bet lightsaber-rape hurts!

Originally posted by ares834
He seems to terrify Palpatine...

"He could feel the end of this battle approaching, and so could the blur of Sith he faced; in the Force, the shadow had become a pulsar of fear. Easily, almost effortlessly, he turned the shadow's fear into a weapon: he angled the battle to bring them both out onto the window ledge."

The Shadow is Palpatine.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Being afraid of death isn't the same as being afraid of a person. Palpatine didn't fear Windu so much as he feared Windu's lightsaber in proximity to his face.

Originally posted by ares834
Regardless, it was Windu who was making Palaptine shit his pants there.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hugh Jackman =/= Wolverine. He ain't even close.

Tobey Maguire as Spider-Man, on the other hand... he's perfect for that role. Such a crybaby.

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On-topic:

1) Mace cuts him in half.

2) Mace crushes his brain (if he has any, that is).

And dont kid yourself, Hugh is perfect for the part. 😖hifty:
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Originally posted by Omega Vision
Sith Lords can have fear, but I highly doubt that even as fearsome a Jedi as Windu could make one "scared shitless".

Dooku showed fear of Mace. He fled a number of times from Mace and wanted no part of him. Mace would stomp Dooku.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Which is besides the point. Battlehammer suggested that Windu's mere presence made Sith Lords shit themselves, which clearly isn't the case.

now your just bring up red herring to desfuses the fact you made up soem bullshit about Dooku fighting mace and obi at the same time when that never once happened.

also I was talking Dooku not sith in general.

Originally posted by Galan007
...Which happened before Dooku left the Jedi order, which means it happened before Mace had ever perfected, or fully embraced, Vaapad.

^ I wasn't making anything up, just confusing the incident that took place in Star Wars The Clone Wars: Republic Heroes where on Behpour Dooku fought both Windu and Obi-Wan at the same time and held his own.

It's hard to tell when you're exaggerating and when you genuinely believe some of the shit you spout in the name of wanking a character, hence my belief that your statement was in earnest.