Originally posted by NemeBro
I know right!?LOOK AT THIS SHIT GAIZ!!!
Isn't it UNREAL!?
The dragon was being pierced by what looked like normal arrows and this thread is still going?
Ganon rips its head off like tinfoil. 😬
Originally posted by NemeBro
I know right!?LOOK AT THIS SHIT GAIZ!!!
Isn't it UNREAL!?
The dragon was being pierced by what looked like normal arrows and this thread is still going?
Ganon rips its head off like tinfoil. 😬
Originally posted by quanchi112From what I recall, your warden depending on the origins isn't as experience either. LOl at Link lacking swordsmanship, standard wardens use basic sword slashes while link can do great spin and draw. as for abilities he has the equipment and endurance to pummel that Archedemon to death with the golden gauntlets. Lets not forget this won't be first time he fought a dragon and won.
Not at all. Link isn't greater than any grey warden by any means. He lacks the experience, the ability, and the necessary swordsmanship to get the job done.Link never did anything even remotely strong outside a gear induced feat which made even Bo capable of similar feats.
You just said Raziel can beat 100 wardens. That's completely amusing to me.
Seeing as normal arrows can pierce and hurt Archedemon Ganon cand simply use basic attacks to demolish him.
he did move boulders without gauntlets in A Link to the past.
Is it amusing because its true?
Quanchi, please stop with the bashing. You're removing quite a lot of context from certain scenes to makes Ganondorf sound weaker than he is. Allow me to outline some things. I'll just use your biggest post for this.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Link needs gear to deal with Gorons proving he's not strong and bo did the same thing.
This is irrelevant to the thread, really, but I'll address it anyway. Needing gear to stop Gorons does not make Link weak. It just prevents him from being thrown around. After the Goron stops moving the boots are no longer necessary, and the throwing of the Goron does not use the weight that the boots provide. I'm not going to respond to anything concerning this, so I suggest dropping it.
Link with a few weeks experience beat dorf with many years experience and despite him being more powerful. Dorf not being able to overpower Link without the boots on shows how not strong he is. Thanks for that.
Have you ever considered the quality of the experience Link recieves? From the moment Link's adventure begins he's taking down monsters much larger than the archdemon, and dealing with an army of monsters, including a Bulblin military and several highly skilled monsters such as Darknuts and Dinofols. The skill that Link shows overshadows any experience he may lack in your eyes. I won't respond to this, either.
he barely has any showings in this game and he loses all throughout the game so funny you want to ignore him getting dominated by sages.
Again, you are removing context and attempting to downplay Ganondorf. Watch the cutscene:
YouTube video
First off, Ganondorf was caught and executed before he showed any power at all, so you claiming that he is weak, while technically accurate, is fallacious as that is not the current Ganondorf. It is a flashback that is implied to have happened hundreds of years ago, when Ganondorf didn't have much power or experience/skill. You claiming that the Sages could kill him is again fallacious, as the Sages killed a powerless Ganondorf, before he recieved the Triforce of Power. And if you simply watch the cutscene, you will see that after Ganondorf gains his powers, he is not only able to laugh off the sword that killed his weaker form, but he can disintegrate a Sage with a touch. The Sage of Water, specifically. Does the Archdemon have anything similar, or a least any resistance to a disintegrating touch?
Finally, the scene where the Sage supposedly "dominate" Ganondorf. Of course, you have failed to recall that they did this using a highly powerful artifact, which also failed to actually harm Ganondorf in any way. Unless the Archdemon has the ability to BFR Ganondorf to another dimension (ignoring the fact that Ganondorf gained the power to escape this) then he has no way of "dominating" Ganondorf.
The archdemon destroyed petty armies per cinema and shrugged off Riordan like a nonfactor despite all the damage he caused. Arch took on more than 7 and dominated whereas dorf lost to 7 and then one on one.
You're referring to this?
YouTube video
That's actually quite pathetic. Not only is Riordan able to damage the Archdemon with a normal sword, the Archdemon actually fails to shake him off for some time. The dude tore the Archdemon to pieces, and in no way is he treated like a nonfactor. The Archdemon was screaming in pain the entire time. In fact, he cut the thing too well, and the only reason Riordan fell is because his sword cut all the way through and fell out. The only possible redeeming thing about this scene is the Archdemon's resistance to blunt force via the stone tower collision. Oh, and at 1:08? Looks like the Archdemon fell too, or else it gets a kick out of spinning drunkenly through the air.
By feats archdemon>>>>>>>>dorf.
By feats, Ganondorf has superior durability (normal sword vs. Sage's Sword/Master Sword), superior power (breaking tower vs. castle exploding), superior magic (fire breath vs. disintegrating touch), and possibly similar speed, though Ganondorf can teleport.
What prevents Ganondorf from simply possessing the Archdemon, trapping it in a barrier, twilighting it, castle exploding it, or just going Ganon and stepping on it?
Originally posted by NephthysDorf was impaled twice and chained up. Yeah dorf gets beaten here worse than when he challenged Link that kid with 3 weeks worth of training.
The dragon was being pierced by what looked like normal arrows and this thread is still going?Ganon rips its head off like tinfoil. 😬
Originally posted by PhanterosWhich warden lacks experience ? Please go on with this. Also it isn't just a warden but armies and party members loaded with experience. Context it's so much fun whereas Link stomps Dorf without even a month's worth of experience.
From what I recall, your warden depending on the origins isn't as experience either. LOl at Link lacking swordsmanship, standard wardens use basic sword slashes while link can do great spin and draw. as for abilities he has the equipment and endurance to pummel that Archedemon to death with the golden gauntlets. Lets not forget this won't be first time he fought a dragon and won.Seeing as normal arrows can pierce and hurt Archedemon Ganon cand simply use basic attacks to demolish him.
he did move boulders without gauntlets in A Link to the past.
Is it amusing because its true?
The archdemon isn't a normal dragon now is it ? No, and let's not forget Dorf is easily impaled by swords. The archdemon crunches him.
This isn't Dorf nor Link from alttp. Please look up at the thread before you put your foot in your mouth again.
Originally posted by The ScenarioYou've never ever countered this. This just shows without the boots he can't contend with them making this only possible with the boots showing without them he's nowhere near strong enough to contest with them only with the added weight the boots provide. That was so much fun but moving on.
Quanchi, please stop with the bashing. You're removing quite a lot of context from certain scenes to makes Ganondorf sound weaker than he is. Allow me to outline some things. I'll just use your biggest post for this.This is irrelevant to the thread, really, but I'll address it anyway. Needing gear to stop Gorons does not make Link weak. It just prevents him from being thrown around. After the Goron stops moving the boots are no longer necessary, and the throwing of the Goron does not use the weight that the boots provide. I'm not going to respond to anything concerning this, so I suggest dropping it.
Have you ever considered the quality of the experience Link recieves? From the moment Link's adventure begins he's taking down monsters much larger than the archdemon, and dealing with an army of monsters, including a Bulblin military and several highly skilled monsters such as Darknuts and Dinofols. The skill that Link shows overshadows any experience he may lack in your eyes. I won't respond to this, either.
Again, you are removing context and attempting to downplay Ganondorf. Watch the cutscene:
YouTube video
First off, Ganondorf was caught and executed before he showed any power at all, so you claiming that he is weak, while technically accurate, is fallacious as that is not the current Ganondorf. It is a flashback that is implied to have happened hundreds of years ago, when Ganondorf didn't have much power or experience/skill. You claiming that the Sages could kill him is again fallacious, as the Sages killed a powerless Ganondorf, before he recieved the Triforce of Power. And if you simply watch the cutscene, you will see that after Ganondorf gains his powers, he is not only able to laugh off the sword that killed his weaker form, but he can disintegrate a Sage with a touch. The Sage of Water, specifically. Does the Archdemon have anything similar, or a least any resistance to a disintegrating touch?
Finally, the scene where the Sage supposedly "dominate" Ganondorf. Of course, you have failed to recall that they did this using a highly powerful artifact, which also failed to actually harm Ganondorf in any way. Unless the Archdemon has the ability to BFR Ganondorf to another dimension (ignoring the fact that Ganondorf gained the power to escape this) then he has no way of "dominating" Ganondorf.You're referring to this?
YouTube videoThat's actually quite pathetic. Not only is Riordan able to damage the Archdemon with a normal sword, the Archdemon actually fails to shake him off for some time. The dude tore the Archdemon to pieces, and in no way is he treated like a nonfactor. The Archdemon was screaming in pain the entire time. In fact, he cut the thing too well, and the only reason Riordan fell is because his sword cut all the way through and fell out. The only possible redeeming thing about this scene is the Archdemon's resistance to blunt force via the stone tower collision. Oh, and at 1:08? Looks like the Archdemon fell too, or else it gets a kick out of spinning drunkenly through the air.
By feats, Ganondorf has superior durability (normal sword vs. Sage's Sword/Master Sword), superior power (breaking tower vs. castle exploding), superior magic (fire breath vs. disintegrating touch), and possibly similar speed, though Ganondorf can teleport.
What prevents Ganondorf from simply possessing the Archdemon, trapping it in a barrier, twilighting it, castle exploding it, or just going Ganon and stepping on it?
What being was much larger than the archdemon ? Name one please.
Link's opponents save Zant and a few others weren't up to par by any means considering who you face up against in dragon age. I mean giant spiders and what not aren't formidable by any means it's just dull and unimpressive. Try taking it to sloth demons, caladrius, witherfang, zathrian, etc. Yeah, much more formidable and much more well organized than the typical shadow beats you flip your wolf tail into to beat.
Correct dorf was taken quite easily due to overconfidence which suggests a real stupidity in his character. Thanks for reminding me how stupid he is.
I said he was dominated by the sages not killed. So please at least address what it is I actually state as opposed to what you believe I state. Thanks.
The sages lost one man and despite the triforce of power aiding him it still didn't matter as he was easily defeated. The guy isn't cut out for destroying large numbers of enemies it seems unlike the Archdemon.
Dorf killed one sage. He also didn't disintegrate midna so don't start claiming he can simply disintegrate his foes now. It just gets so ridiculous when you enter the debate sometimes. The sages foolishly watched as he broke free and then when they realized he killed one easily dismissed him without losing more than a man. That's called a sonning. They chained him up and lost one man and immediately sent him packing.
Dorf hasn't proven he can disintegrate anyone just a sage but wasn't even fast enough to take out more than one. Terrible feat it shows he can't take on large groups and later Link himself just crushes him with little to no experience. Horrible.
The archdemon doesn't need to teleport him away as he can tear his body in half with his jaws. We have already seen Link easily kill him with a simple impalement and already seen a sage impale him. he's not durable by any means and gets crushed.
If Riordan tore him to pieces why is he able to dominate the mini forces on the roof and take on your party for 20 mins ? Hmmmm....maybe because unlike dorf he can take on groups whereas Dorf can't. Dorf was killed by Link whereas the archdemon defeated Riordan quite easily. He also can fly just not large disatances. He flys all the time in your battle against him, sport.
Dorf isn't durable at all he gets impaled all the time and beaten all the time. By feats he's quite incompetent and stupid which you yourself brought up.
Dorf didn't blow up the castle it's unclear and could be Midna who did so. Laughs.
Archdemon takes on groups whereas a group easily chains up dorf and sends him packing when they want to. Dorf also gets beaten one on one to someone he is much more experienced than.
Dorf can't possess the archdemon. He didn't possess a sage or anyone outside a prisoner zelda. Get a clue.
Originally posted by ares834Not when he lost both times due to the same thing. Thanos doesn't lose only when he subconsciously allows himself to anyways.
Hey, better to lose due to overconfidence rather than being too tricky. Don't you agree. I'm sure Thanos does. 😉
Originally posted by Burning thoughtYou abandoned the debate which means I accept your concession.
😆 you can count now? I dont belive it.....Its one lie after the another with you.
Originally posted by PhanterosSo was dorf yet he was stunned for a good while and died the second time. Any sword can impale dorf leaving him completely at your mercy unlike the archdemon.
Still was injured and hurt by the sword.
Originally posted by NemeBroHe was impaled both swords that were rammed into him. Link's sword also can be blocked by any knight foes showing it's not some unblockable sword it's due to skill with his blows not some badass sword that can't be stopped.
Quanchi name a single time Ganondorf was pierced by normal swords.If you can't do it (I already know you cannot), then get out.
Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeWhen has dorf possessed any victim say a captive zelda ? Did he possess a sage or Link ? Nah.
Archdemon can be possessed. It's shown no resistance to possession, right? It's a case of featless resistance vs at least the ability to possess someone.