Surfer/Thor vs Superman/Wonder Woman/Martian Manhunter

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Originally posted by biensalsa
That is what you think?

Poor delisuonal boy, you proved nothing. In any case a person with half a brain will realize that SS cannot detect weaknesses.
He can brain scan someone unconcios and find out that they have large ammounts of gamma radiation. THATS IT

There has never been someone from another universe transmutationg Kryptonite. Cosmic King is not from another Universe is from a different timeline that it got destroyed. but you are too stupid to understand that.

Solar radiation, yes that gives an edge to Surfer, but Superman is not = HULK so stop with the delution

And that scan with the girl falls into the same category of ABC

And Red sunlight does affect Superman but not in the ways you think, that He become completelly powerless as soon as he is in a red solar system. You just do not know that, because you lack the knowledge of this things.

I'm sorry to tell you this but One Dumb is owning you.

He has countered your every argument that you made and he has basically proved you wrong on several occasions. I can tell by your post that he has you backed against the wall... hell, the only thing you have been doing is name calling instead of providing scans (that you are taking out of content). You are discrediting scans that is provided to you because it is basically helping one dumb case and you havent provided anything to help your case (which again the things you brought up before didnt make sense since there is so much proof countering your arguments).

I am pretty sure that with every scan that you show of Superman resisting red sunlight, one dumb can provide 2 proving your case wrong because it has happened so much.

Then we have star fire draining kryptonians of their energy... we then have black lightning hitting them with a dose of red sunlight (dont know how he was doing it but he was creating it)... koing them but let me guess... since these kryptonians isnt superman, you are not counting the feat even though a couple of these kryptonians alone gave Superman a fight and matched him.

Originally posted by biensalsa
That is what you think?

Poor delisuonal boy, you proved nothing. In any case a person with half a brain will realize that SS cannot detect weaknesses.
He can brain scan someone unconcios and find out that they have large ammounts of gamma radiation. THATS IT

So Surfer using his cosmic senses to comprehend Hulk's vulnerability... is proof he cannot use his cosmic senses to comprehend a foe's vulnerability. Amazing deduction.
Originally posted by biensalsa
There has never been someone from another universe transmutationg Kryptonite. Cosmic King is not from another Universe is from a different timeline that it got destroyed. but you are too stupid to understand that.
Cosmic King came from a different timeline that did not come from Superman's timeline and he transmuted Kryptonite. It's not my fault you were ignorant of alternate universe characters time traveling through histories that are not their own. Particularly those that have to do with the Legion. Particularly this one:

Originally posted by biensalsa
Solar radiation, yes that gives an edge to Surfer, but Superman is not = HULK so stop with the delution

And that scan with the girl falls into the same category of ABC

It's not my problem you cannot keep up with the argument. Let's go slowly now: You first insinuated that Surfer draining Superman would be ineffective because Superman retention of energy levels correlates to his stress. Higher stress = more energy he retains = Surfer can't drain him. That's a poor deduction. I've already pointed out a character whose higher stress = more energy he harnesses (not just retains) = Surfer drains him anyway. I'm not comparing Hulk to Superman. I'm illustrating why your reliance on Superman's stressful energy retention is meaningless.
Originally posted by biensalsa
And Red sunlight does affect Superman but not in the ways you think, that He become completelly powerless as soon as he is in a red solar system. You just do not know that, because you lack the knowledge of this things.
"Red sunlight does affect Superman but not in the ways you think," biensalsa. Also, Superman has become completely powerless as soon as he is in a red solar system on-panel; read War of the Supermen #2:

"You just do not know that, because you lack the knowledge of this things." Read comics. Stop bringing up tangential arguments that literally blow up in your face.

Onedumbgo: 1

biensala: 0

Edit. Actually it's ODG: 10, biensala: 0

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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
So Surfer using his cosmic senses to comprehend Hulk's vulnerability... is proof he cannot use his cosmic senses to comprehend a foe's vulnerability. Amazing deduction. Cosmic King came from a different timeline that did not come from Superman's timeline and he transmuted Kryptonite. It's not my fault you were ignorant of alternate universe characters time traveling through histories that are not their own. Particularly those that have to do with the Legion. Particularly this one:

It's not my problem you cannot keep up with the argument. Let's go slowly now: You first insinuated that Surfer draining Superman would be ineffective because Superman retention of energy levels correlates to his stress. Higher stress = more energy he retains = Surfer can't drain him. That's a poor deduction. I've already pointed out a character whose higher stress = more energy he harnesses (not just retains) = Surfer drains him anyway. I'm not comparing Hulk to Superman. I'm illustrating why your reliance on Superman's stressful energy retention is meaningless. "Red sunlight does affect Superman but not in the ways you think," biensalsa. Also, Superman has become completely powerless as soon as he is in a red solar system on-panel; read War of the Supermen #2:

"You just do not know that, because you lack the knowledge of this things." Read comics. Stop bringing up tangential arguments that literally blow up in your face.

I'm going to have to show you all of the times Superman has been under red Suns and still has a a lot of power left.

But of course you do not know that because you only low ball Superman to prove your point and High ball with lies SS feats.

I'll be back later, because right now I do not have time to look for all the scans

And to the cheerleaders I hope when I show all the scans you girls also pick sides with the one "showing" the evidence.

Just remember I do not bring a Single scan to prove my point 😂

Originally posted by biensalsa
I'm going to have to show you all of the times Superman has been under red Suns and still has a a lot of power left.

But of course you do not know that because you only low ball Superman to prove your point and High ball with lies SS feats.

Superman getting depowered in War of the SUpermen is not lowballing Superman. It just completely destroys your absolutist nonsense that Superman would never get depowered by being in a red sun solar system. He has.

Stow your hypocritical attitude. Your childish propensity to lowball Surfer and high ball Superman has already been revealed by your fantastical "Superman's HV depowers Surfer" and "Superman doesn't get depowered by red sunlight unless he's in a blackhole" and "Superman can never be affected by an alternate universe's character's kryptonite" and "Surfer can never sense an opponent's vulnerabilities even when he does it on-panel" myths. These are all myths that have been proven incorrect by on-panel evidence. Read comics. Take your delusional crusades to some fanfic forum.

Originally posted by biensalsa
I'll be back later, because right now I do not have time to look for all the scans

And to the cheerleaders I hope when I show all the scans you girls also pick sides with the one "showing" the evidence.

Just remember I do not bring a Single scan to prove my point

Nobody cares. Your myth has already been busted. By a Superman comic that came out this past year no less. Too bad you didn't read War of the Supermen #2.

Cry more.

Guys, keep it civil.

Originally posted by biensalsa
On top of that SS is not detecting anything based on his "CA"

The examples which Ambient gave clearly forgot the FACT and the SCANS that SS KNEW the plan all along thanks to the outrider (Oclin) and that is why SS was looking for Iridian, there was no "CA" involved on the defeat of the Uni-lord, but plain strategy and brains


No he never knew of Oclins true intention, fact he was not told because Oclin feared that the information might be used against him.. He did found the info by talking to the watcher, it pretty much for tell why the Unilord is in pain and is now in its most vulnerable form however there was nothing in regards to a way to beat the Unilord.. Heck the Watcher did not even know what the Surfer was doing while fighting.. So shooting Praada fol with an unknown form of energy that cause Unilords 1st form defeated was due to Surfers use of "CA".