Seth vs Darkseid

Started by King Castle3 pages

i just dont like foolishness and writing that insults ones intelligence and pisses on past writers..

hence not a fan of guys like Giant-man.. Banner tech god anymore then i am a fan of guys like Aquaman and his wet hand eaten by piranhas who can get shot by sea shells and next day lifting a city block and hitting a herald being and TP that can give an abstract a seizure..

Originally posted by Allankles
Heh! If Odin were a bad guy Supes would absolutely break his teeth. His loses to Supes are neither here no there since he wasn't actually using his powers beyond brawling with one of the best brawlers in comicdom.

At the same time people will ignore the many instances where he's gotten the upper hand on Superman post crisis. Even KO'ing Supes and the rest of the justice league core all at once.

In fact the last two times they fought before Final Crisis (Ignoring the SF DS) he defeated Supes hands down, knocking him out in Countdown with matter manip on Jimmy who'd become an NG conduit and nearly killing him on Apokolips before Mr. Miracle came to the rescue with the ALE .

Seth and Odin are magical beings who operate on a (minimum) galactic level. They'd look at Superman dirty and vaporize his sorry self. Darkseid dies just as easily.

A better match up would be pre rez Thanos vs Darkseid. Seth or Odin are too much for him.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yes, he is.

We get it; you hate DC.

He needs help and like all heroes face overwhelming odds yet survives again and again.

PS King Castle

I agree 100% with your assessment of DC and the current "Banner Tech/Giant Man" wank at Marvel.

Originally posted by zopzop
Seth and Odin are magical beings who operate on a (minimum) galactic level. They'd look at Superman dirty and vaporize his sorry self. Darkseid dies just as easily.

A better match up would be pre rez Thanos vs Darkseid. Seth or Odin are too much for him.

What do you mean pre rez Thanos ?

Originally posted by King Castle
i just dont like foolishness and writing that insults ones intelligence and pisses on past writers..

hence not a fan of guys like Giant-man.. Banner tech god anymore then i am a fan of guys like Aquaman and his wet hand eaten by piranhas who can get shot by sea shells and next day lifting a city block and hitting a herald being and TP that can give an abstract a seizure..

facepalm

it isn't "the next day".

seriously, you're almost trolling now.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He needs help and like all heroes face overwhelming odds yet survives again and again.

no he doesn't.

he does it better than pretty much anyone else.

also, as far as Pym goes? Some of us have had to put up with 20+ years of writers shitting all over characters and making them look bad unfairly. It's Pym's turn to get a bit respect, so stop being so damn petty, please.

Before his current resurrection.

sooo... Seth touch and eye blast can destroy all organic/living matter...

Darkseid has his OB's...

wonder what would happen?mhmm

Originally posted by -Pr-
facepalm

also, as far as Pym goes? Some of us have had to put up with 20+ years of writers shitting all over characters and making them look bad unfairly. It's Pym's turn to get a bit respect, so stop being so damn petty, please.

Originally posted by -Pr-
facepalm

it isn't "the next day".

seriously, you're almost trolling now.

no he doesn't.

he does it better than pretty much anyone else.

also, as far as Pym goes? Some of us have had to put up with 20+ years of writers shitting all over characters and making them look bad unfairly. It's Pym's turn to get a bit respect, so stop being so damn petty, please.

The reason he is on the jla's team is because these threats are typically bigger than what Superman can handle on his own. I also don't think he does it better than anyone else. No hero can take every mega threat on their own when they quit holding back. No they can prevail with aid though but we all know the hero survives 90 percent of the time anyways so despite the horrible predicaments they find themselves in we know at the end of the day they will survive.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The reason he is on the jla's team is because these threats are typically bigger than what Superman can handle on his own. I also don't think he does it better than anyone else. No hero can take every mega threat on their own when they quit holding back. No they can prevail with aid though but we all know the hero survives 90 percent of the time anyways so despite the horrible predicaments they find themselves in we know at the end of the day they will survive.

And yet he's dealt with threats by himself that were bigger than the JLA.

So no, that's not generally why he's in the JLA. The same could be said for half the members in the team too.

Originally posted by -Pr-
And yet he's dealt with threats by himself that were bigger than the JLA.

So no, that's not generally why he's in the JLA. The same could be said for half the members in the team too.

So has Thor and other major elite top tiers. They can't always beat these threats on their own.

Quan, give it a rest. Pr is not as forgiving as some of the other mods in the CB vs forum/. And Pr is 100% correct.

Castle, read above.

If I here one more thing from this thread, I'll refer it to Peach and Rex. And you both know what that means.

Seth 8/10 Darkseid suffers from too much PIS either in his favor or against. Until I see more of this newly formatted DS I'm going to have to go with his original origin. Darkseid had a good story and was a sufficiently strong character that he could pull about equal to moderately top level superman excluding his stupidly powerful versions where he breathes too hard and kills H/P Doomsday level characters.Seth is still better as he DS operates on a one to one basis. Seth operates on a galaxy/universe level basis whenever he fights with Odin.

Originally posted by zopzop
Seth and Odin are magical beings who operate on a (minimum) galactic level. They'd look at Superman dirty and vaporize his sorry self. Darkseid dies just as easily.

A better match up would be pre rez Thanos vs Darkseid. Seth or Odin are too much for him.

Yikes! You honestly think Seth or Odin would be the most powerful threat Supes faced down head on, one on one? His entire history he's faced down threats that would overwhelm an Odin or Seth. In post crisis he's faced such threats as Dominus, War World Braniac 13 and Emperor Joker.

And for your information Darkseid is a universal threat, who always seems to get the upperhand on the other gods (even siphoning power from several pantheons) so I don't know what you're on about saying Seth is beyond him. A few rough outings with Superman and now he's chopped liver? We all know Supes would drop Seth if he was as prominent a villain in DC as DS was.

The durability (of his avatars at least) may be top tier but DS is well within, if not beyond, Seth's weight class. And besides, he has two nasty one shot reality altering abilities in the OS and OE.