Spider-Man vs Blade

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Seriously. There is no mention of a healing factor. He doesn't say "I can heal," we don't see him heal... we don't even see a wound. There is nothing definitive there, it is ambitious as hell. I mean, if one was so inclined they could use that feat to argue that Blade was bullet proof and have as much leg to stand on (ie almost none) as proporting it proves the existence of a healing factor. At the end of the day Blade didn't even actual state he wasn't wearing kevlar in the first place, he alluded to it sure... but that allusion came right on the heels of him saying that a bullet to the face won't do anything, which was clearly a bluff.

Originally posted by Deadline
The context in which he said clearly indicated he was. Remember when he said " You think I'm wearing fake fangs", what did that imply srank?

I'll get around to your other post later.

Originally posted by Deadline
I'll get around to your other post later.

We know that Blade IS a half vampire who has pronounced fangs, so obviously that part was true, and not really up for discussion or debate. Part of the statement being true doesn't add any credence to it all being true, especially since we all know that in actuality Blade does wear kevlar frequently.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
We know that Blade IS a half vampire who has pronounced fangs, so obviously that part was true, and not really up for discussion or debate. Part of the statement being true doesn't add any credence to it all being true, especially since we all know that in actuality Blade [b]does wear kevlar frequently. [/B]

There are lots of examples of him not wearing Kevlar. Apart from the fact that you are nitpicking why would he not be wearing Kevlar now? Why would he lie?

I like Shatterstar. I think he is a cool character. He is a skilled fighter, has superhuman stats across the board, unlimited endurance, a healing factor (which he has actually used), a superhuman learning ability, he can rearrange his organs to avoid injury and turn sonic vibrations into bio-blasts, and his weapons are magic. That said Shatterstar is not a match for top tier fighters no matter how much I'd like him to be. Wolverine has kicked his ass three times with little effort and Deadpool has served him his ass too. Blade is Shatterstar... only with less abilities and inferior feats. He isn't a match for any big name streets. He is Nightthrasher. He is Moonknight. He isn't Captain America or Daredevil or Iron Fist or Black Panther.

Listen, you guys can like Blade as much as you want, hell I like him, and in fact I properly have more Blade art in my portfolio than any other comic character, but you can still be objective about his abilities and honest about what he has and has not done.

Originally posted by Deadline
There are lots of examples of him not wearing Kevlar. Apart from the fact that you are nitpicking why would he not be wearing Kevlar now? Why would he lie?

Same reason he would lie about a bullet to the face not effecting him? He was trying to intimidate the Punisher?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Listen, you guys can like Blade as much as you want, hell I like him, and in fact I properly have more Blade art in my portfolio than any other comic character, but you can still be objective about his abilities and honest about what he has and has not done.

Answer the bloody question. Why on earth would he lie? What makes you think he was wearing Kevlar this time when he doesn't always wear Kevlar? Don't you think Blade would look like a pussy if he was actually wearing Kevlar?

What do you think is the most logically explanation?

A: Blade was lying and therefore the writers wanted to make him look like a pussy

or

B: He was actually telling the truth. Bare in mind writes know that Blade has fans and they want to make him look good. Bare in mind the main theme of the comic was vampires and therefore it was Blades moment.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Same reason he would lie about a bullet to the face not effecting him? He was trying to intimidate the Punisher?

When did he say that? He didn't get shot in the face he got shot in the back, so there proof for that.

Originally posted by Deadline
Answer the bloody question. Why on earth would he lie? What makes you think he was wearing Kevlar this time when he doesn't always wear Kevlar? Don't you think Blade would look like a pussy if he was actually wearing Kevlar?

What do you think is the most logically explanation?

A: Blade was lying and therefore the writers wanted to make him look like a pussy

or

B: He was actually telling the truth. Bare in mind writes know that Blade has fans and they want to make him look good. Bare in mind the main theme of the comic was vampires and therefore it was Blades moment.

When did he say that? He didn't get shot in the face he got shot in the back, so there proof for that.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Same reason he would lie about a bullet to the face not effecting him? He was trying to intimidate the Punisher?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Right so in other word the writers wanted to make him look like a pussy? So when he said he could smell him he was lying as well? Oh he didn't say that a shot in the head wouldn't do any damage.

Originally posted by Deadline
Right so in other word the writers wanted to make him look like a pussy? So when he said he could smell him he was lying as well? Oh he didn't say that a shot in the head wouldn't do any damage.

Because only pussies bluff! Right?

Get over your self man.

I don't have any trouble believing he smelled Punisher, but saying that he could killed Punisher before Frank could even think of pulling the trigger, and that he didn't think a bullet to the face would even do anything in the first place is bs, plain and simple. Neither are within the abilities Blade has showcased. He was lying or he was bluffing. Nothing in his career before or since would lead me to believe either of those statements was true.

1st off Blade has dropped to his knees when stabbed by a sword by drac... drac made it a point to miss vital organs..

Blade gets shot in the shoulder and groans in pain.

now i am willing to accept he has a healing factor that isnt much of an issue its what lvl it is at that is.

his bio has it as a rapid healing factor not regenerative and a shot to the head would put blade down possibly for good never once seen blade display deadpool level healing feat f and even then a good bullet hole to the head drops DP even if it is for half a minute or two.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Because only pussies bluff! Right?

Thats not the point he would look like a pussy in that situation. It makes it look as if Punisher was too much for him. Theres no reason why he would feel that way.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Get over your self man.

Of course I need to get over myself. I believe that Wolverine beats Blade for the majority. I respect your opinion about Elektra beating Blade and I respect the opinion of anybody that thinks that Spiderman beats Blade for the majority. My beef with you is nitpicking feats

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

I don't have any trouble believing he smelled Punisher,

Right so why do you believe that he smelled him but he was lying about kevlar?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

but saying that he could killed Punisher before Frank could even think of pulling the trigger, and that he didn't think a bullet to the face would even do anything in the first place is bs, plain and simple. Neither are within the abilities Blade has showcased. He was lying or he was bluffing. Nothing in his career before or since would lead me to believe either of those statements was true.

Hes never met Punisher before he was simply saying what he thought, that doesnt mean he was lying. He obvoulsy thought he was supeior because he was vamp and he was human. That doesn't mean he was lying about Kevlar, he knows wether hes wearing kevlar or not.

He didn't say a bullet to the face would do nothing he said he wasn't sure...not the same thing. He obvously means no serious damage.

edit: Aactually I think they met once but the writer seems to ahve forgotten this because they don't even recognise each other.

Originally posted by Deadline
Thats not the point he would look like a pussy in that situation. It makes it look as if Punisher was too much for him. Theres no reason why he would feel that way.

Of course I need to get over myself. I believe that Wolverine beats Blade for the majority. I respect your opinion about Elektra beating Blade and I respect the opinion of anybody that thinks that Spiderman beats Blade for the majority. My beef with you is nitpicking feats

Right so why do you believe that he smelled him but he was lying about kevlar?

Hes never met Punisher before he was simply saying what he thought, that doesnt mean he was lying. He obvoulsy thought he was supeior because he was vamp and he was human. That doesn't mean he was lying about Kevlar, he knows wether hes wearing kevlar or not.

Blade has a few other feats of superhuman senses, so it is more or less the norm. On the other hand he has no feats of healing or being bullet proof, so taking a bullet center mass with no ill effect is not the norm. Blade does wear kevlar, he has never healed on panel and he had already lied once about his ability to take bullets already in that encounter. Looking at the facts you need to take a far bigger leap to take the allusion at face value than you do to write it off as a bluff. The notion that bluffing makes him "look like a pussy" isn't really a compelling counter argument.

Like I said, it is an ambiguous feat at best and by no means a conclusive example of a healing factor. We don't know if he healed. We don't know if he was wearing kevlar. We don't know if the writer was trying to suggest he was bullet proof. Hell it is totally conviable that the bullet wound was open and he was just toughing it. We don't know. Citing it as an example of a healing factor is disingenous. The most likely answer that fits with the rest of Blade's appearances is that he was infact wearing kevlar as he is known to do.

Originally posted by Deadline
There are lots of examples of him not wearing Kevlar. Apart from the fact that you are nitpicking why would he not be wearing Kevlar now? Why would he lie?

Originally posted by Deadline

When did he say that? He didn't get shot in the face he got shot in the back, so there proof for that.

Originally posted by Deadline
Aactually I think they met once but the writer seems to ahve forgotten this because they don't even recognise each other.

Originally posted by King Castle
1st off Blade has dropped to his knees when stabbed by a sword by drac... drac made it a point to miss vital organs..

Blade gets shot in the shoulder and groans in pain.

now i am willing to accept he has a healing factor that isnt much of an issue its what lvl it is at that is.

his bio has it as a rapid healing factor not regenerative and a shot to the head would put blade down possibly for good never once seen blade display deadpool level healing feat f and even then a good bullet hole to the head drops DP even if it is for half a minute or two.

you nitpichers see HF as deadpool regrowing a arm or hulk regenerating all of his flesh but thats not the case blade has a low lvl HF maybe thats the answer that you guys oh so desperately seek. if not there no point in even going back and forth with you

Cap and Spidy have "low level healing factors" as well, and yet they both have legitimate healing feats. Blade does not. BLADE HAS NEVER HEALED ON PANEL.

This is a pretty simple argument to kill guys. All it would take is a single definitive example of Blade healing. And yet here we are - what - two or three years latter and that still hasn't happened? Anyone want to hazard a guys as to why? Because one doesn't exist. This is a debate forum, we deal in facts here, if you want to theorize about the effectiveness of hypothetical abilities that Blade has never displayed, then go write a fan fiction or tweet Wesley Snipes.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Cap and Spidy have "low level healing factors" as well, and yet they both have legitimate healing feats. Blade does not. [B]BLADE HAS NEVER HEALED ON PANEL.

This is a pretty simple argument to kill guys. All it would take is a single definitive example of Blade healing. And yet here we are - what - two or three years latter and that still hasn't happened? Anyone want to hazard a guys as to why? Because one doesn't exist. This is a debate forum, we deal in facts here, if you want to theorize about the effectiveness of hypothetical abilities that Blade has never displayed, then go write a fan fiction or tweet Wesley Snipes. [/B]

Originally posted by 0mega Spawn
you nitpichers see HF as deadpool regrowing a arm or hulk regenerating all of his flesh but thats not the case blade has a low lvl HF maybe thats the answer that you guys oh so desperately seek. if not there no point in even going back and forth with you

If you had bothered to read my reply you would already know that those of us you're so angry to reply to ALREADY give Blade the benefit of the doubt to say he has SOME sort of accelerated healing ability..... 🤨

But the level that some Blade fans claim it is... It isn't...

AND that it's a FACT that there's never been one unambiguous healing fact presented on panel to clarify otherwise.