Spider-Man vs Blade

Originally posted by SamZED
No matter how skilled you are with guns you're not shooting someone who can dodge a bullet after it leaves the gun as you skills wont matter when the bullet is in midair.

I already explained that you can if you know where hes going to be before he moves. Also its a comicbook its not 100% scientific.

Ok Sam explain to me how Blade is going to punch Spiderman when his punching speed is significantly lower than a bullet? When you throw a punch you don't change direction half way through either.

I'm waiting.

Originally posted by Trackz
no offense to you, but this argument never made much sense to me. I've seen people dismiss his showings against vampires because Blade is equipped to deal with vampires, but comic Blade doesn't carry the UV guns and such that the movie version does. When he beats a vampire it's usually by decapitation or a stake through the heart (which sometimes doesn't work) these two things would kill any other foe just as well, unless my more used you mean that he will more readily go for the kill shot.

Originally posted by Deadline
I already explained that you can if you know where hes going to be before he moves. Also its a comicbook its not 100% scientific.

Ok Sam explain to me how Blade is going to punch Spiderman when his punching speed is significantly lower than a bullet? When you throw a punch you don't change direction half way through either.

I'm waiting.

I just did in my previous post, the part about ss.
Also honestly, man.. I dont know how I ended up having to do the explaning. My point - Spider-man isnt gonna get shot when he has hundreds and hundreds of bullet/lasers dodging feats most of which are that impressive:
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/6798/reflexes.jpg
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/4058/feat2speed2wp3.jpg
http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/7241/scan0008ul.jpg

While you're suggesting that Blade is gonna kneecap him based on the fact that there were FEW instances when SM failed to dodge a shot.. and that's in more than 40 years of comix and out of billion times when he didn't fail to do that. Aren't his feats a good enough explanation for why he isnt gonna get shot?

Originally posted by YFZ 350
[QUOTE=13052101]Originally posted by Trackz
[B]no offense to you, but this argument never made much sense to me. I've seen people dismiss his showings against vampires because Blade is equipped to deal with vampires, but comic Blade doesn't carry the UV guns and such that the movie version does. When he beats a vampire it's usually by decapitation or a stake through the heart (which sometimes doesn't work) these two things would kill any other foe just as well, unless my more used you mean that he will more readily go for the kill shot.

Originally posted by SamZED
Non taken. And my argument was not meant to downplay Blade against other foes. It just seems that people use Blade doing better against vampires than Spider-man as an argument for who would win between the two.

edited. double post.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Yeah because the times marksmen no matter who tried and succeeded to shoot him is as high as people hitted him in h2h. 🙄

Originally posted by SamZED
Non taken. And my argument was not meant to downplay Blade against other foes. It just seems that people use Blade doing better against vampires than Spider-man as an argument for who would win between the two.

He really can dodge bullets all day tbh. Done that millions of times. Even after they were fired.

Originally posted by Trackz
all it shows, in my opinion, is that Blade is a significant threat to Spiderman

Originally posted by Trackz
well punisher and blade have managed to shoot him, don't know who else

Originally posted by SamZED
Not gonna argue with that. But more in a close combat. imo shooting him is not an option. Spider-man said many times bullets are useless against him and proved it even more times.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
And how many times did they fail to do so?

I see spiderman winning a fight probably 6/10

Originally posted by Trackz
Well this is hard, most heroes cite being able to dodge gunfire because they're faster than the person behind the gun, but Blade has a superhuman level of speed himself (albeit he's not going to be beating spiderman in a race)

Originally posted by Trackz

Well Blade has only tried to shoot Spiderman once, and did so successfully.

Originally posted by Deadline
Ok Sam explain to me how Blade is going to punch Spiderman

I hope this will simpfly things.

Originally posted by Deadline
I hope this will simpfly things.

Originally posted by SamZED
Post above.

That was about bullets you didn't mention anything about punches. So Blade can't punch Spiderman? I'm just trying to make it simple.

Originally posted by SamZED
Yes, but that matters when we talk about aimdodging. Spider-man can actually dodge bullets after they're fired. Also he's dodged fire from experineced marksmen with enhanced reflexes speed. Here's the most recent one I can think of.
http://s715.photobucket.com/albums/ww156/ankur2113/?action=view&current=TASM637016.jpg
http://s715.photobucket.com/albums/ww156/ankur2113/?action=view&current=TASM637017.jpg
And that's while being distracted and weakened. (Thanks to Ankur for scans)

Havent read that book in a long time so could be wrong, but wasnt Spider-man out of his mind when that happened?

Yea, that's what I was saying, depending on the writer spiderman is either aim dodging or actually dodging bullets, and spiderman was a vampire

Originally posted by Trackz
Yea, that's what I was saying, depending on the writer spiderman is either aim dodging or actually dodging bullets, and spiderman was a vampire

EDIT: actually 3 times but the bullets in the 3rd scan are imo definately not at normal bullet speed.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Of course I agree that he is not always moving faster than a bullet but in 99% of the time it's not stated if he's faster than them or aim dodging. I honestly can't remember a single time where it's really stated that he is doging the aim. I have 2 examples where it's clear that he's faster and the rest is pretty much open for debate.

EDIT: actually 3 times but the bullets in the 3rd scan are imo definately not at normal bullet speed.

I think it's a combination, no matter how fast spiderman is, logically he has to aim dodge, because he may no the bullet has been fired, but the only way he can know where the bullet is is my checking the aim, or assuming where his opponent would be aiming. a good marksman could hide this, again this is still my opinion, and this really should be addressed in an issue.

Originally posted by Deadline
That was about bullets you didn't mention anything about punches. So Blade can't punch Spiderman? I'm just trying to make it simple.

You asked - "Can Blade punch Spider-man?" My answer - yes he can. But that's NOT because Spider-man lacks the speed to dodge Blade's attacks. He has the speed to dodge bullets and definitely has the speed to dodge Blade's attacks, hope you're not gonna argue with that. Now, If you read Spider-man you should know how spider sense works - The bigger the threat is, the better Spider-man reacts to it. One hit from Blade while deadly to normal humans could never kill Spider-man, while a bullet would. So he'd most definitely react to the deadly threat while there's a chance he wouldnt react to a lesser threat especially concidering his character - fooling around.

Now your turn, please explain why do you believe that Spider-man is gonna get kneecapped in this fight when he was dodging bullets his entire life? Because "getting punched sometimes" doesnt really work as a solid proof for a vs forum when we have 1000s of examples of him dodging much more diffucult shots.

Originally posted by Trackz
Yea, that's what I was saying, depending on the writer spiderman is either aim dodging or actually dodging bullets, and spiderman was a vampire

Originally posted by SamZED
You missed it. Ill explain again, but expect an explanation from you in return.

You asked - "Can Blade punch Spider-man?" My answer - yes he can. But that's NOT because Spider-man lacks the speed to dodge Blade's attacks. He has the speed to dodge bullets and definitely has the speed to dodge Blade's attacks, hope you're not gonna argue with that. Now, If you read Spider-man you should know how spider sense works - The bigger the threat is, the better Spider-man reacts to it. One hit from Blade while deadly to normal humans could never kill Spider-man, while a bullet would. So he'd most definitely react to the deadly threat while there's a chance he wouldnt react to a lesser threat especially concidering his character - fooling around.

Oh I see so your assuming that he decided to let himself get punched in the face, ok got it. 👆

Originally posted by SamZED

Now your turn, please explain why do you believe that Spider-man is gonna get kneecapped in this fight when he was dodging bullets his entire life? Because "getting punched sometimes" doesnt really work as a solid proof for a vs forum when we have 1000s of examples of him dodging much more diffucult shots.

Maybe later.

Ill put this simplier.
Deadpool kicking Spider-man: Spider-man's CIS + small warning from spider sense - Parker got hit once.
Deadpool waving his sword at Spider-man: Deadly threat so no CIS + huge warning from spider sense - Parker dodging the sword.

Originally posted by Deadline
Oh I see so your assuming that he decided to let himself get punched in the face, ok got it. 👆

Also, was that supposed to be a bait question, so you could give your "smart sarcastic responce"? Ok I can do that too.
Answer this - Do you think Spider-man can't dodge bullets? Now answer.

Originally posted by Deadline

Maybe later.