Spider-Man vs Blade

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Originally posted by YFZ 350
He was being drained prior to his fight with Spidey.
Yea, I read that. Kinda makes it easier to swollow now.

1) spidey
2) spidey
3) don't know
4) spidey

Originally posted by Trackz
like how?
Like not fighting up to his abilities.

Originally posted by Mindset
Like not fighting up to his abilities.
isn't that spiderman and every person he fights usually?

Spiderman as a vampire does fight differently then normal. Honestly think normal spiderman would spank vamp spidy. He seems more aggressive and more frontal assault which actually is a bad idea for him. He at his best when he utilizing his agility, range and spidersenses in a more countering fashion.

Originally posted by Trackz
isn't that spiderman and every person he fights usually?
No

Originally posted by Mindset
No
then why do people complain about his performance against street level heroes

Because he isn't fighting to his full potential.

Originally posted by Mindset
Because he isn't fighting to his full potential.

sorry, could you differentiate between not fight up to his abilities and not fighting up to his potential

Originally posted by Mindset
No

Originally posted by Deadline
Because punches are alot slower than bullets?
And so you're saying Spider-man can't dodge bullets...😬

Originally posted by Deadline

I know. Im showing you how you're contradicting yourself. You think that he can get hit by something that moves alot slower than a bullet.
If you read my post carefully you'd see I didnt controdict myself at all, you're just not familliar with how spider sense works.
I from the very beginning said - Spider-man has the speed to dodge bullets and "definitely has the speed to dodge Blade's atacks". He HAS the speed, but because of his CIS he uses this speed better when reacting to lethal attacks (ie swords, claws, bullets) than when reacting to non-lethal attacks (punches, kicks).
Frankly, im done explaning that 2+2=4. Can you prove that Spider-man is gonna get shot with a gun when he's easilly dodged lasers before? If you cant then stop suggesting that.

Originally posted by Deadline

Dunno about that. It probably has more to do with him hitting harder as opposed to speed.
Even while being pissed he still holds back, so its about speed. That is the reason most of the time they dont even get the chance to react before getting koed.

Originally posted by Trackz
sorry, could you differentiate between not fight up to his abilities and not fighting up to his potential
I think I can.
Id say not fighting up to his potential is when he faces Daredevil for example. Spider-man potentialy has the strength to kill Matt with one punch but he'd never do that.
Not fighting up to his abilities is when he runs through a gauntlet of dozens of his villains and keeps fighting while in another story gets oneshotted by say Scorpion.

Granted Blade doesnt have as many durability feats as Spider-man, but even if we dont use the obvious ones like tanking Hulk's punches etc Parker getting oneshotted by Negus would still count as low showing imo.

Basically PIS vs CIS?

Originally posted by SamZED
I think I can.
Id say not fighting up to his potential is when he faces Daredevil for example. Spider-man potentialy has the strength to kill Matt with one punch but he'd never do that.
Not fighting up to his abilities is when he runs through a gauntlet of dozens of his villains and keeps fighting while in another story gets oneshotted by say Scorpion.

Granted Blade doesnt have as many durability feats as Spider-man, but even if we dont use the obvious ones like tanking Hulk's punches etc Parker getting oneshotted by Negus would still count as low showing imo.

I get what you're saying, but the thing is Spiderman has consistent showings against vampires, and those are bad showing, I mean I could understand if it was one story, but in every story he's in a group of vampires is able to over-power and nearly kill him. The only reason it didn't happen in the first part of the Spiderman/Blade one-shot is because they stated they wanted to take him alive.

Negus has beaten Dracula, I wouldn't say it's a low showing to be one-shotted by him. Also I looked back on the comic, he hit Spiderman across the room, then continued to pummel him before he got to his feet, so it wasn't a one-shot.

Originally posted by Mindset
wouldn't want you to strain yourself

Originally posted by Trackz
I get what you're saying, but the thing is Spiderman has consistent showings against vampires, and those are bad showing, I mean I could understand if it was one story, but in every story he's in a group of vampires is able to over-power and nearly kill him. The only reason it didn't happen in the first part of the Spiderman/Blade one-shot is because they stated they wanted to take him alive.

Negus has beaten Dracula, I wouldn't say it's a low showing to be one-shotted by him. Also I looked back on the comic, he hit Spiderman across the room, then continued to pummel him before he got to his feet, so it wasn't a one-shot.

If there were several hits then yeah, I got no problem with him getting koed, especially if the guy took down Dracula.
But as for random vampires, we cant base his durability solely on his showings against them. Most of them aren't class 2 even, right? (Im talking about the noname cannonfodder vamps). And when we have him take this kind of punishment
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7485/63331067.jpg
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/580/88919785.jpg
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/3329/38184852.jpg
or take down Sandman, Electro, Tombstone, Shocker etc all at the same time, and then lose to a few vampires, you have to agree its far from his best showings. Even if there's more than one example of it happening.

Originally posted by SamZED
How am I not getting the point? You keep trying to change it. Your point was - Spider-man has been shot before. My point - it happens in 0,1% compared to 99,9% when he dodges bullets, sometimes even with his eyes closed. So unless you concider every time he dodges a bullet PIS he's not getting shot in a vs forum where he fights and moves to the absolute best of his abilities.

😆 Lol! Classic Alfiem.

Originally posted by Deadline
I already explained that you can if you know where hes going to be before he moves. Also its a comicbook its not 100% scientific.

Ok Sam explain to me how Blade is going to punch Spiderman when his punching speed is significantly lower than a bullet? When you throw a punch you don't change direction half way through either.

I'm waiting.

Actually... you do.. kinda.. it's called leading your target...

You can only do that from the point of the barrel with a gun... unless it was some kind of smart bullet that could follow spidey around.... but no... with a punch you can redirect the flow of the fist from the time you throw it out.

Originally posted by jinzin
Actually... you do.. kinda.. it's called leading your target...

You can only do that from the point of the barrel with a gun... unless it was some kind of smart bullet that could follow spidey around.... but no... with a punch you can redirect the flow of the fist from the time you throw it out.

Originally posted by Deadline
I already explained that you can if you know where hes going to be before he moves. Also its a comicbook its not 100% scientific.

Ok Sam explain to me how Blade is going to punch Spiderman when his punching speed is significantly lower than a bullet? When you throw a punch you don't change direction HALF WAY through either.

I'm waiting.

Originally posted by Deadline
Ok Sam explain to me how Blade is going to punch Spiderman when his punching speed is significantly lower than a bullet? When you throw a punch you don't change direction half way through either.
Originally posted by Deadline
Also its a comicbook its not 100% scientific.