Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
So, this Galactus Engine is a Galactus foe?Sounds like he's pretty uber if he can take out 6 Celestials at a time.
the Galactus engine is a Galactus from the Cancerverse..seems like he has been twisted by the many angle one and turn into a weapon..it didn't take out 6 Celestial..it hasn't done anything impressive yet..but i haven't read the latest Thanos Imperative..so maybe he take out 6 Celestial it the latest issue..so i could be mistaken..
Originally posted by zopzop
I'll look into the Galactus Engine. But Hyperstorm is the weak link, VERY weak link, in team 1.Plus I don't see Tenebrerous and Aegis as a match for the Celestials. The In-betweener and FP are the powerhouses of Team 1 but they'd eventually be overwhelmed by Team 2.
Well, don't forget that Hyperstorm has mastery over hyperspace. The Celestials are purportedly made of hyperspace. Forgetting the sue storm debacle against exitar, he at least has hyperspace inside his armor. I don't think you can dismiss hyperstorm so easily, esp if he's hiding behind the galactus engine.
I-B can also use his powers to summon "The Horde" that fought Tiamut in Eternals mini
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
IB may actually be able to solo team 2 as ridiculous as it sounds he can summon those guys opposites to fight them
Hey I learned to stop laughing and started respecting the IB when I saw him order Death around like she was his dog.
Did you see his Official Handbook info Colossus? It says he's IMMUNE to the effects of the Infinity Gems! 😮💨
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
IB may actually be able to solo team 2 as ridiculous as it sounds he can summon those guys opposites to fight them
but who is mika's opposite. if mika turns out to be a beast in chaos war, then all i-b would do is summon ameratsu or whatever his name is. and that dude is as impressive as a flat chested stripper
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
really? what handbook?
Official Handbook Update 1 2007. Here's the scan :
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Man I'm starting to think the IB may be able to solo everyone mentioned.
Originally posted by zopzop
Official Handbook Update 1 2007. Here's the scan :Uploaded with ImageShack.us
Man I'm starting to think the IB may be able to solo everyone mentioned.
I'm afraid that it is nothing extremely special, Warlock mentioned that Galactus like Eternity was above the powers of the soul gems (or something like that) however as I see it there is a enormous difference between being Immune to the Infinity Gems and then being Immune to the Infinity Gauntlet.
Now as for the battle itself, the Galactus Chaos Engine, coupled with In Betweener, FP Tyrant, Tenebrous and Aegis, should atleast be capable of holding back the Celestial onslaught for a extended amount of time, the turning point isn't if they can hold, which in the long run they can't, but rather if Hyperstorms control of Hyperspace and the summoning of the Horde will prove sufficiant to overwhelm the Celestials. I'm fairly sure that Hyperstorm could duplicate the effect on Exitar that Sue did, but I must also admit that it was a feat only executeble because of Exitar entirely ignoring Sue, the question would then be if Hyperstorm is capable of manipulating the energies used against him from the Celestials, that I personally doubt very much. All in All I have no idea who wins. Ruling out Mikaboshi (because he is a unknown factor) and not really factoring in Odin in the destroyer armor because I think he will get destroyed in seconds.
Originally posted by Utrigita
[B]I'm afraid that it is nothing extremely special, Warlock mentioned that Galactus like Eternity was above the powers of the soul gems
Where was this stated? I remember Galactus being owned by the Soul Gems when the Elders used them as a cannon and drained Galactus of energy. He was about to die, till the Surfer saved him.And this was before they discovered the true power of the gems.
How can Eternity be immune to the gems? Thanos owned him with them.
Originally posted by zopzop
Where was this stated? I remember Galactus being owned by the Soul Gems when the Elders used them as a cannon and drained Galactus of energy. He was about to die, till the Surfer saved him.And this was before they discovered the true power of the gems.How can Eternity be immune to the gems? Thanos owned him with them.
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Thanos discusses how, when he had the Heart of the Infinite, he could have dispatched Galactus with ease. But without the Heart, Thanos explains that his personal power is "Lilliputian" compared to Galactus' mightMore interesting however is Thanos asking Adam Warlock if he can use the Soul Gem against Galactus. Warlock says he can't, because he senses
"[B]no soul within yonder vessel. Galactus most likely has a spirit similar to Eternity's and Infinity's. Beyond the Gem's power.
So there you have it...Galactus is immune to the Infinity Gem that governs the Soul.
Therefore, we can say that in the Infinity Gauntlet affair, Eternity/Infinity and Galactus were technically dispatched by 5 of the 6 gems, as they, by their natures, rendered the soul gem useless. Guess it's more of a feat for the IG, but still interesting nonetheless. [/B]
@Power Cosmic II
That's only the Soul Gem though. I believe it's failed before against beings with "no soul". The Hanbook says the IB is immune to the effects of the Infinity Gems (plural). Not merely the Soul Gem, but all of them : Power, Mind, Reality, Space, Time.
Actually the more I read about the IB the more I feel he's probably second only to the LT in power/authority.
Order/Chaos created some uber being with a "kill switch" they can use if he gets out of hand.
Originally posted by zopzop
Where was this stated? I remember Galactus being owned by the Soul Gems when the Elders used them as a cannon and drained Galactus of energy. He was about to die, till the Surfer saved him.And this was before they discovered the true power of the gems.How can Eternity be immune to the gems? Thanos owned him with them.
Things change in marvel, what works in the 1970-80 might not work the same way in the 2000. And it was in the Thanos series which included Hunger. Don't recall the exact issue.
Hence why I said there is a difference between the Infinity Gems and the Infinity Gauntlet.
Originally posted by Utrigita
[B]Things change in marvel, what works in the 1970-80 might not work the same way in the 2000. And it was in the Thanos series which included Hunger. Don't recall the exact issue.
They were using the gems to drain his power from him.
Hence why I said there is a difference between the Infinity Gems and the Infinity Gauntlet.
So he's immune to the Soul Gem? There have been others with "no soul" that were immune to it too. The IB is immune to ALL of them.
Originally posted by zopzop
They were using the gems to drain his power from him.So he's immune to the Soul Gem? There have been others with "no soul" that were immune to it too. The IB is immune to ALL of them.
I'm aware of that, however as I said what happened in the 1980's isn't always telling for how the character will react against said Artifact today, for instance today the Soul Gem isn't useable on Galactus and the Time Gem won't work either, so a difference have emerged, the superman from the 80's isn't the same Superman as today. Things change. Also the Gems worked on Galactus because they could channel the energy from him into 6 planets, so the Gems had to use a storage place for the energy they drained from him in order to function against him, it's plausible that today the same result wouldn't have been a reality, especially seen how easily Galactus collected the Infinity Gems in the Hunger, some most likely from bears without problems.
And the IB have what on panel feats to support that he is immune to All of them combined in into the Infinity Gauntlet as more or less have been claiming.
