Blue marvel vs superman

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
are they even DC characters who lift under 100 tons? but are superhuman like spiderman luke cage rhino etc

Bane (with venom) can lift somewhere in the neighborhood of a ton

Killer Croc is Class 5-10 Ditto for Man-Bat

Deathstroke has some degree of enhanced strength, though it's not really all that clear.

Hawkman is a Class 10-20, he's probably the highest profile DC character in this strength class.

Steel apparently is Class 70, though I think he has feats above this.

Booster Gold is Class 20 (though I recall him lifting a military submarine, which range from the hundreds to the thousands of tons)

Vixen is Class 50 last I checked.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Bane (with venom) can lift somewhere in the neighborhood of a ton

they officialy have bane at 35 tons in one of his bios

Originally posted by Juntai
I dunno what they've done in Secret Six, but JSA Classified had a story a year or so ago involving Bane, that made the Venom simply a highly addictive form of Miraclo. So his strength should be somewhere around Hourman's- who has pretty crazy feats at times.

Superhuman Strength: The primary effect of Venom is that it enhances strength to low superhuman levels, depending on how much venom is injected. Bane has been shown as stronger than Batman even without the venom , and while injected as able to bend thick steel. When Bane injects the maximum amount of Venom that is considered healthy into himself, he becomes capable of lifting about 2 tons. He is ultimately capable of exceeding his limit to 35 tons, though not without temporarily losing control over himself.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C

It's generally a good thing since lots of characters we know to be Class 100+ are listed much lower in their bios.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
That's a bio though, they're considered secondary canon to actual on-panel showings.

It's generally a good thing since lots of characters we know to be Class 100+ are listed much lower in their bios.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
like who?

Just one example.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Sasquatch is said to be Class 70 yet he towed a 10,000 ton destroyer.

Just one example.

He also held a 250 ton jet against it's turbines, then tossed it.

But just about everybody says that while that was Sasquatch, he had Tanaraq's body, which is obviously high into the Class 100 tier.

Originally posted by carver9
Honestly, I'm giving this to blue marvel... he just seems more powerful to me... by the way rage, I also think blue marvel could take thor. : )

Originally posted by kgkg
Your kidding right? A no name character with almost no feats is going to beat Superman at his own game?

Thats why I say Supes wins no contest for now. Give it time for BM to build feats.

In his short time, he has some pretty good solidifying feats.

He one shotted and flash ko'd sentry. KNocked him from Earth, through a satellite in space.

After that, he fought the Avengers, including Wonderman and Ironman...and beat them all down. Then Sentry divebombed him from space, and it didn't even keep him down that long.

Stopped an asteroid the size of arkansas from hitting the Earth.

Picked up a battle cruise that weighs like 93,000 tons or something.

Beat King Hyperion.....the one from Exiles.

Guy is like Icon...only better.

Originally posted by kgkg
Your kidding right? A no name character with almost no feats is going to beat Superman at his own game?

Uuummm... he has feats like beating antman... someone that destroyed the avengers with ease that included sentry.

I don't even need to name the rest of them since it was already stated. A lot of people that superman has fought didn't have feats but either does well against him or either beat him... so I didn't see a reason behind your post.

By feats? Superman in a batshit stomp, this isn't even a contest. Nothing but wild expeculation and bias would give Blue Marvel a win on ten, this is the difference between a freaking prime high herald against a guy who is around mid herald at best -as of now-.

Stop hating on Kal because you dislike the fact he's better than Marvel bricks 😬

Originally posted by Bentley
By feats? Superman in a batshit stomp, this isn't even a contest. Nothing but wild expeculation and bias would give Blue Marvel a win on ten, this is the difference between a freaking prime high herald against a guy who is around mid herald at best -as of now-.

Stop hating on Kal because you dislike the fact he's better than Marvel bricks 😬

Same argument that you just used can also be said about sentry but sentry got one shotted through a satellite.

If anyone is being biased its you... like I said before, just because I don't give superman the win against everyone and their grandmother doesn't mean that I dislike the character. Please don't let me write that book again on the numerous of heralds that I give supes the edge in a fight against.

Originally posted by carver9
Please don't let me write that book again on the numerous of heralds that I give supes the edge in a fight against.

What thread was this in? I am very interested in reading your opinions.

Did you even read my post? There is nothing on it that could be applied to Sentry 😬

Being biased is to willingly ignore Superman has better feats. A question, do you aknowledge Superman has better feats?

Originally posted by Bentley
Did you even read my post? There is nothing on it that could be applied to Sentry 😬

Being biased is to willingly ignore Superman has better feats. A question, do you aknowledge Superman has better feats?

I know superman has better feats... the character itself has been out 60+ years... of course he will have better feats. He also have better feats than captain marvel but cap could either split or hell, some people would give cap the majority. He also have better feats than black adam but people give adam the edge. I would go as far to say that if you put everything that superman prime has done and compare it to the things thqat superman ha done... supes feats is better but prime would stomp him. He has better feats than proteus and proteus would stomp him. The guy star in more comics than wolverine... of course he will have more feats. Hell, hulk has better feats than doomsday, I wonder why people give doomsday a chance against hulk? Hell, going by showings deathstroke alone is a f***** high herald. Going by showing odin>galactus. Your feats argument is boo boo.

Sentry feat with him containing the cosmic cube should put him far above blue marvel but he got one shotted. Hell, surfer feats should make surfer capable of taking on both thor and supes at the same time.

Originally posted by carver9
I know superman has better feats.

Freaking. Concession. Accepted.

Nice debating with you 👆

Feats only matter to a point. The creator of Blue Marvel made it damn clear that the character is on par with the top dogs like Sentry, Superman, Hulk and as ridiculous as it might seem, even Thor.

Blue Marvel might have not lifted an infinite amount of weight but on average? It's a stalemate. If I had to pick a winner, it'd be Clark but it'd be a heck of a fight. The outcome would be similar to the Sentry/Blue Marvel battle.