Vargas vs Sabretooth

Originally posted by Starscream M
so what's the biological explanation for their powers then? or is it just these people are magically powered? 😕

Originally posted by Mindset
Evolution.

Originally posted by Mindset
If you have an x-gene you're a mutant, if you don't then you're not.

Simple as that.

Originally posted by Starscream M
evolution is a result of mutation. the successful mutated genes are passed on to offspring while the unsuccessful are not. hence, mutation and evolution really go hand in hand. they're not separate phenomenons.

Originally posted by 753
Were talking about comics where nature behaves with intentions. Vargas had no X-gene

X-Men Legacy is quickly becoming a must read. But errm... Yea Vargas ftw.

What are his feats?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What are his feats?

. The guy chopped a building down with a broadsword, how can Creed compete with that kind of thing? [/B]

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Owning Rogue, Beast, and Psylocke. Killing Psylocke in a sword duel. Resisting Rogue's touch.

Originally posted by Starscream M
yeah but humanity fears mutants BECAUSE of the powers...not the gene

Kinda arguable, 'random freak' heroes like the F4 are generally accepted, but X-gene mutants with useless or no powers get the prejudice.

Mutant politics have developed into something pretty messed-up in universe. The fear of power is just part of it.

Originally posted by 753
Vargas was essentially a natural born Captain America. His combat feats should be impossible for someone like him and they depended on his enemies stupidity. Psylock could have shielded herself in a buble and crushed him with a telekinetic wall. Instead, she goes toe to toe in a swordfight.

YThe idea that the emergence of a super-peak human could threaten the mutant, which was the point of the story, is absurd. The way x-treme rogue, who cuold kill him with a thought just by accessing the right powers, struggled with him and everyone feared him was full of it too.

Im really not sure that the X-men would have been able to do the feats you mentioned. I really think that his 'peak-human' was above Cap, from what I remember he was a peak 'human' mutant.

I got the impression (and iirc it was in an interview about him) that he was superhuman well passed peak, it's just his thing was that rather than having random X-gene powers, he had everything a human did but more. More strength, more speed, and so on.

Human-multiplied rather than Human-with-power.

I actually agree with Strascream. Evolution is a form of physical mutation.

anyway sabes should win

Originally posted by Warlord
I actually agree with Strascream. Evolution is a form of physical mutation.

anyway sabes should win

yes in the real world sense ot in the comic book sense, -xgene = "mutant"

true.

also I never got the phobia people in Marvel Earth have agaist mutants but random empowered guys are hailed as heroes.

Xmen have saved the earth as many times as the Avengers and still they are the outcasts while the others get a parade and stuff...
just absurd

Originally posted by Warlord
true.

also I never got the phobia people in Marvel Earth have agaist mutants but random empowered guys are hailed as heroes.

Xmen have saved the earth as many times as the Avengers and still they are the outcasts while the others get a parade and stuff...
just absurd

It's much easier to fear a group than it is to fear an individual.

Besides, humans are jealous of their powers and afraid of being replaced by them, afraid that their own children will be mutants.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
With the possible exception of the Hulk family (who are approaching this status 😛) most of those random empowered guys aren't members of races.

It's much easier to fear a group than it is to fear an individual.

they are "the superpowered beings" 😮‍💨

Originally posted by Warlord
they are "the superpowered beings" 😮‍💨

Daisy Johnson being an exception, as her superpowers came from her mutate father and she is not considerd a mutant.