Vargas vs Sabretooth

Started by Deadline3 pages

Originally posted by Omega Vision
With the possible exception of the Hulk family (who are approaching this status 😛) most of those random empowered guys aren't members of races.

It's much easier to fear a group than it is to fear an individual.

That doesn't matter though because these individuals can have superhuman children. I've often wondered about this as well, doesn't make sense.

their children will be considered mutants

Franklin Richards anyone.... yeah it doesn't make sense

Originally posted by Deadline
That doesn't matter though because these individuals can have superhuman children. I've often wondered about this as well, doesn't make sense.

Well with mutates there's no real connection like there is with mutants and their x-gene. Also the fact that mutants are born naturally while mutates come about usually as the result of accidents makes the presence of mutants more real.

People generally fear a group because of an often imagined notion that the group are all part of some sinister collective. With mutates that's less tangible than it is with mutants who actually have advocacy groups (the X-Men, the Brotherhood) and racial leaders.

Franklin has the x-gene.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Franklin has the x-gene.

I always assumed he had powers because of his parents. This shows you how illogical this is. Even if he didn't have the X-gene he still most likely would have powers. So this means you can be born with powers and not have the X-gene?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Well with mutates there's no real connection like there is with mutants and their x-gene. Also the fact that mutants are born naturally while mutates come about usually as the result of accidents makes the presence of mutants more real.

It doesn't matter its splitting hairs. They essentially hate mutants because of their powers, the only difference is some people get them by accident. Sometimes this is because the individuals have different genetics but not the x-gene. I also thought everybody had the x-gene but in some cases it gets triggered by an accident this seems to have been retconed.

Originally posted by Omega Vision

People generally fear a group because of an often imagined notion that the group are all part of some sinister collective. With mutates that's less tangible than it is with mutants who actually have advocacy groups (the X-Men, the Brotherhood) and racial leaders.

It only ended up like that because of the writers. Realistically other superhumans would have groups as well. In fact I think they do but they're not known or as notorious.

Originally posted by Warlord
their children will be considered mutants

Franklin Richards anyone.... yeah it doesn't make sense

RR adn IW would have mutant children regardless. The idea here is that mutates gain superpowers because the empowering events awaken/alter their dorment mutant genes that would only manifest naturally 1 or more generations down the line. Their children get the awaken/mutated x-gene and are therefore mutants.

But at least one child of a mutate has superpowers and is not considered a mutant: Daisy Johnson.

Originally posted by Deadline

It only ended up like that because of the writers. Realistically other superhumans would have groups as well. In fact I think they do but they're not known or as notorious.


Why would they have groups though? It's not as if mutates have ever been oppressed (barring Spider-Man perhaps 😛) and there really aren't a lot of them compared to mutants who at their height numbered in the tens of thousands IIRC.

The only "advocacy groups" for mutates have been government sponsored teams like the Avengers.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Why would they have groups though? It's not as if mutates have ever been oppressed (barring Spider-Man perhaps 😛) and there really aren't a lot of them compared to mutants who at their height numbered in the tens of thousands IIRC.

The only "advocacy groups" for mutates have been government sponsored teams like the Avengers.

The genoshan mutates were a slave class. Mutants peaked in the dozens of millions.

Originally posted by Deadline
I also thought everybody had the x-gene but in some cases it gets triggered by an accident this seems to have been retconed.

It's one of many explanations floating around in marvel, there is nothing thats concrete currently I think.