Originally posted by King Castle
where is the last scan where thanos is analyzing the power of the orb?
Here it is, Thanos gloating that he "humiliated" Tyrant
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Then we see why Tyrant didn't care about that orb :
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Originally posted by zopzop
NihilistDude whether or not the orb did anything to Thanos amp wise, Thanos didn't want to continue the fight with Tyrant when Tyrant was about to get serious. Tyrant was throwing Thanos around and made him groan in pain multiple times.
Thanos wasn't running anywhere from Odin even though he had nothing to gain from staying and fighting. Thanos wasn't getting knocked around by Odin till Odin summoned his spear and really started to lay into him. Even then Thanos didn't scream or groan like he did vs Tyrant.
Very good points.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You're exactly correct in everything you said here. This is part of the reason why I feel Tyrant is above Odin.
I agree.
Originally posted by zopzop
Here it is, Thanos gloating that he "humiliated" TyrantUploaded with ImageShack.us
Then we see why Tyrant didn't care about that orb :
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Which is exactly why I said that Tyrant won in more ways than one.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiUsing Galactus vs Tyrant doesn't work here their RELATIONSHIP is the only reason Tyrant got the upperhand everybody knows this and nobody denies this when i bring it up
Stoic sometimes you really amaze me... The orb was SAID to contain knowledge when it was studied... no mention of PC or Morg's power NOTHING. It was said to contain knowledge and knowledge is power. HOWEVER, let just say it was..... The plain presentation of the comic make it clear... if it was amplifying Thanos is was ONLY when it was glowing and radiating colors which reflected this. We saw it LIFELESS when Thanos punched Tyrant one time and again when they locked up in a test of strength. Yet yet you're going to say it was still active then and amplying Thanos? Are you serious with this nonsense? The facts are these... IF it was amplying Thanos it was ONLY when it was glowing. Period. Anybody thinking it was still amping him when it was totally lifeless is just plain slow.Next, the question was asked why do I feel Tyrant is more powerful than both Odin and Seth... well that is easy.. Their common foes... When Odin fought Thanos.. Thanos was NEVER in any fear of dying or EVER considered stopping the fight to leave. He knew he could keep on going toe to toe with Odin, and even though he was losing he clearly didn't feel like he was in any danger of dying and needed to leave. Now compare that to when he fought Tyrant.. Even while AMPED (which is debatable) he fleed the scene and SPECIFICALLY said that if he stayed Tyrant would kill him. That right there speaks volumes about the power that Thanos had just felt in engaging Tyrant. These are the facts that can't be gotten around. To add to that, Thanos could've had an AMP + he was prepped to fight Tyrant. He was looking for a challenge and was studying up on Tyrant before they met. So we have an amped prepped Thanos FEAR Tyrant and admitting Tyrant would kill him if he stayed. Now compare that to an unamped and unprepped Thanos not having ANY fear of Odin or staying or continuing the fight. Done deal
To go further though... We saw Dp Tyrant pwn Galactus and have him in serious trouble. Galactus is stronger than any foe Odin has fought and done well against. Galactus himself feared a confrontation with Tyrant and backed down the first time they met for fear of it destroying galaxies. He SPECIFICALLY FED and prepped for his battle with Tyrant... Why would you do that if you're that superior to your foe... the answer is you wouldn't and certaintly the condescending Galactus wouldn't. He clearly felt Tyrant was a big threat. On the contrary, he has talked down about Odin and has never expressed any fear over facing him. In fact, when Doom had Galactus power.. he ONE SHOT Odin with ease. For these reasons and others... I feel DP Tryant is above Odin.. maybe not by a huge margin but certainly above him.
Originally posted by StoicWell to everybody else it isn't sorry 😬
It is pretty solid proof to me. Thanos fought with the orb in hand, if it wasn't affecting him he would have simply pocketed the trinket, and fought without it.The fact that while holding the orb made him fight with less vigor was a clear indication that he needed it to bump him up to near eye level with Tyrant in terms of power. Thanos would not fight a superior with less than his absolute best.
Thanos landed a solid right hook to Tyrant, and the orb was glowing as it also left a trail of energy in its wake.
The answer to your question is yes it is solid proof.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Using Galactus vs Tyrant doesn't work here their RELATIONSHIP is the only reason Tyrant got the upperhand everybody knows this and nobody denies this when i bring it up
Well to everybody else it isn't sorry 😬
Why speak for anyone other than yourself? We all have our own opinions, and panel evidence is irrefutable. Thanos was using the orb to amp himself in order to become peers with Tyrant in terms of power. If he simply meant to steal the orb, he would have taken it, and left the other Heralds to a fate worse than death, but he didn't do this. What he did is took the orb, and then faced Tyrant as a near equal, but it was the orb that made it possible. This is why he scrambled to repossess the orb when it fell out of his grasp.
Originally posted by StoicYou haven't shown irrefutable on panel evidence if you did you wouldn't have posted this.
Why speak for anyone other than yourself? We all have our own opinions, and panel evidence is irrefutable. Thanos was using the orb to amp himself in order to become peers with Tyrant in terms of power. If he simply meant to steal the orb, he would have taken it, and left the other Heralds to a fate worse than death, but he didn't do this. What he did is took the orb, and then faced Tyrant as a near equal, but it was the orb that made it possible. This is why he scrambled to repossess the orb when it fell out of his grasp.
Originally posted by Stoic
It is pretty solid proof to me. Thanos fought with the orb in hand, if it wasn't affecting him he would have simply pocketed the trinket, and fought without it.The fact that while holding the orb made him fight with less vigor was a clear indication that he needed it to bump him up to near eye level with Tyrant in terms of power. Thanos would not fight a superior with less than his absolute best.
Thanos landed a solid right hook to Tyrant, and the orb was glowing as it also left a trail of energy in its wake.
The answer to your question is yes it is solid proof.
Originally posted by iceman24567
You haven't shown irrefutable on panel evidence if you did you wouldn't have posted this.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I agree with Ice that there is zero solid undisputable proof it was amping Thanos. I would say it's about 50/50 either way. Regardless, it's clear that going by their common fights... Thanos/Odin and Thanos/Tyrant.. it's clear who Thanos felt was the more powerful of the two. That is undisputable.
If either of you read the scan that I posted and how Marvel officially viewed Thanos in the Tyrant Cosmic Powers it says that Thanos stole power from Tyrant, anything else that you say about it not happening is basically a lie. It pretty solid proof to any who read Thanos' Sourcebook, which is published by Marvel comics, and if it wer false it would have been edited out.
Anyone Refuting That Thanos was amped by the orb is in essence saying that without the orb Thanos could stand toe to toe with Galactus nearly as well as Tyrant, when we all saw that the only thing that Thanos can do against Galactus is put up his shields. Anything else is a lie, and should be considering just plain old trolling.
Here it is again.
Originally posted by Stoic
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Originally posted by zopzopFair points there,but Thanos harmed Tyrant and didnt Odin,so it works both ways.
NihilistDude whether or not the orb did anything to Thanos amp wise, Thanos didn't want to continue the fight with Tyrant when Tyrant was about to get serious. Tyrant was throwing Thanos around and made him groan in pain multiple times.
Thanos wasn't running anywhere from Odin even though he had nothing to gain from staying and fighting. Thanos wasn't getting knocked around by Odin till Odin summoned his spear and really started to lay into him. Even then Thanos didn't scream or groan like he did vs Tyrant.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Nah it doesn't say he was physically amped now does it?
So are you suggesting that Thanos would be capable of going toe to toe with Galactus after just feeding on a planet? Well Tyrant did, and he did so without shields to protect him, from total destruction.
Anyone that read Tyrants appearances could see that Thanos was incapable of taking Tyrant on, without being amped. All one would need do, is logically judge on panel feats. Thanos was being amped by the orb; because there is no way in hell that he is a peer to someone who was not only able to tank Galactus' blasts, but also actually took the fight to Galactus, and put him in jeopardy of being utterly defeated. Which was also seen on panel iirc.
Thanos was barely able to tank one blast from Galactus (with shields up), without the orb, which in the least contained power siphoned from Morg. When Morg was freed of his captivity the energy from the orb was not emptied, he was merely capable of, or allowed to once again synthesize the Power Cosmic. Tyrant never stripped Morg of his gifts, only leached from them iirc.
To add to this, Tyrant also leached an unquantified amount of energy from the other Herald level beings, that he'd briefly held captive iirc.
Seth IMO is not on Tyrants level, he would give him a fight, but I see him going down to Tyrant as easily as the Sphinx went down to Galactus.
Only reason Tyrant lasted so long against Galactus was because of the smaller faster form he took even then Galactus EASILY captured him. Tyrants saving grace was him being able to absorb Galactus' energy being his child and all to think Depowered Tyrant is well fed Galactus level is absurd and only those who ignore what actually happened on panel would think so. He didn't TANK the blast he absorbed it not much of a feat 😬
