Originally posted by King Kandy
Except that Surfer's reaction time is as good as Supes'. And if the board will be "slow", so will superman's charge.
Reactions alone isn't what going to prevent Surfer from getting hit. Remember a pro baseball player can hit a 95mph fastball with a high percentage but get knocked the fuk out with a punch to the face. Superman moves faster than the board with the first second anyway.
Originally posted by h1a8
Reactions alone isn't what going to prevent Surfer from getting hit. Remember a pro baseball player can hit a 95mph fastball with a high percentage but get knocked the fuk out with a punch to the face. Superman moves faster than the board with the first second anyway.
Originally posted by h1a8so you're saying that if the batter is standing at home plate, and the pitcher runs at him and only gets to throw one punch, the batter will get knocked out?
Reactions alone isn't what going to prevent Surfer from getting hit. Remember a pro baseball player can hit a 95mph fastball with a high percentage but get knocked the fuk out with a punch to the face. Superman moves faster than the board with the first second anyway.
the batter gets to intercept the pitcher with a swing also
Originally posted by King Castle
i know.😐except the other times when he hasnt. 😮💨
like the time he was magically/scientifically de-aged by Klarion.
or when he was screwed with by mixy.
or when he called down the lightning.
or when superman turned into living lightning.
wasnt he also turned int a gorilla in the past?
but, go ahead and use the dominus feat. 🤣
you can add Abracadabra and a guy using some sort of chaos magic from a JLA annual (I can search the issue if required)
Originally posted by h1a8It doesn't matter SS can go intangible and or go red star nova as his first reaction.
Reactions alone isn't what going to prevent Surfer from getting hit. Remember a pro baseball player can hit a 95mph fastball with a high percentage but get knocked the fuk out with a punch to the face. Superman moves faster than the board with the first second anyway.
Originally posted by King KandySuperman has feats that show him exceeding light speed within the first 3 meters of travel. I calculated all of SS's best feats, none of them show that he can accelerate to light speed within the first 3 meters of travel.
How can you prove that Superman moves faster than the board? If Surfer can react, why don't you think he can protect himself in a counter-offensive? Combo to KO suggests a speed/reaction difference that simply does not exist here.
Thus Superman is faster than the board.
Combo to ko principle only requires two things.
1. The first strike gets in and it stuns.
2. Another strike gets in before the stun effect wears off.
Speed differential only pertains to 1. Meaning if Superman can hit SS just once then he can pull the combo to ko off. But if he can't then he can't pull it off. I believe Superman can hit SS since Surfer doesn't have good h2h fighting reactions. We can't translate baseball reflexes with h2h fighting ones. A pro baseball player will get dominated by a pro boxer only punching at 60mph (far less than the 90mph they are used to seeing playing baseball).
Originally posted by psycho gundamNo. After the pitcher gets to him and starts swinging then the batter will get hit (unless he has some h2h fighting reflexes as well).
so you're saying that if the batter is standing at home plate, and the pitcher runs at him and only gets to throw one punch, the batter will get knocked out?the batter gets to intercept the pitcher with a swing also
Originally posted by h1a8Assuming SS would be stunned by one punch to the point of not being able to react, which I doubt.
if Superman can hit SS just once then he can pull the combo to ko off.
But if he can't then he can't pull it off. I believe Superman can hit SS since Surfer doesn't have good h2h fighting reactions.He doesn't need them, he just neds to activate his powers such as intangibility, omnidirectional blast, teleportation, etc.
Originally posted by h1a8
Doesn't matter as Superman was shown NOT TO BE depowered when in contact with Red Sun radiation.
Originally posted by h1a8
So can Superman go intangible. SS can't go red star nova.
Originally posted by darthgooberIf DC's official stance was that then they would have never had Superman retain his powers from first contact with red sun radiation. Red sun radiation weakens Superman, not instantly takes his powers away. Prolonged exposure will rob him completely of his powers though.
And he's shown to be depowered pretty much instantly also. Showings vary, but if DC's official stance on the matter is that it completely shuts off his powers now when he's exposed to it then that's just the way it is. Showings that ignore DC's policy on the matter are simply instances of bad writing/PIS.
Based off the definition of "going red sun nova" and the non showing of feats.
Based on what exactly?
Originally posted by The NuulOP says CIS is off anyway.
I still see that H1 doesnt understand what CIS means and still relying on his made up tactic of blitzing right off the bell.
Originally posted by 753
Assuming SS would be stunned by one punch to the point of not being able to react, which I doubt. He doesn't need them, he just neds to activate his powers such as intangibility, omnidirectional blast, teleportation, etc.
Its the definition of STUN i'm using. In a stunned state one cannot make intelligible action as they are stupefied or in a temporary form of paralysis.
SS can't teleport. And you have to prove that he can activate intangibility or an omnidirectional blast before Superman can hit him.
It can possibly take 1.02 seconds for SS to activate intangibility, I'm not going to assume he can do it before Superman can pop him one.
Originally posted by 753Define it first, then prove that he has, then finally, prove that he can here.
He most definitely can.
Originally posted by h1a8
If DC's official stance was that then they would have never had Superman retain his powers from first contact with red sun radiation. Red sun radiation weakens Superman, not instantly takes his powers away. Prolonged exposure will rob him completely of his powers though.Based off the definition of "going red sun nova" and the non showing of feats.
You mean based off YOUR definition of "going red sun nova" right? And I already posted a feat of Surfer giving off a nova's worth of light.
Originally posted by darthgooberNo! A recton doesn't invalidate a past feat as never happening, rather, it justs re explains it.
It's called a recton man, it was one way for a while but now it's another. And if they wanted it to take prolonged exposure, their wouldn't be instances of him being pretty much instantly depowered by it.
Yes, the definition that's in my mind.
You mean based off YOUR definition of "going red sun nova" right? And I already posted a feat of Surfer giving off a nova's worth of light.
Re post the feat of SS giving off a nova's worth of light then.
Originally posted by h1a8He has been instantly depowered by the artificial red sun luthor's weapon created.
If DC's official stance was that then they would have never had Superman retain his powers from first contact with red sun radiation. Red sun radiation weakens Superman, not instantly takes his powers away. Prolonged exposure will rob him completely of his powers though.
His durabilty is enough not to be stunned, he reacts and fights while being injured all the time.
Its the definition of STUN i'm using. In a stunned state one cannot make intelligible action as they are stupefied or in a temporary form of paralysis.
Christ don't you get tired of being wrong all the time? He has teleported and his reactions are at least in the nanoseconds timeframe. Just go to his respect thread.
SS can't teleport. And you have to prove that he can activate intangibility or an omnidirectional blast before Superman can hit him.
0.2 seconds and not 1.02 seconds is the average human reaction time, which I assume is what you were getting at. SS's is shorter than a nanosecond.
It can possibly take 1.02 seconds for SS to activate intangibility, I'm not going to assume he can do it before Superman can pop him one.
He can generate and manipulate any frequency of radiation which is a well established fact and he has 'gone nova' as in blasting in all directions with an absurd amount of energy that briefly matches a nova star.
Define it first, then prove that he has, then finally, prove that he can here.