Originally posted by h1a8Reposted http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/Silver_Surfer_1988_016_12.jpg
No! A recton doesn't invalidate a past feat as never happening, rather, it justs re explains it.
Yes, the definition that's in my mind.Re post the feat of SS giving off a nova's worth of light then.
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr347/darthgoober/Silver_Surfer_1988_016_13.jpg
Originally posted by h1a8
No! A recton doesn't invalidate a past feat as never happening, rather, it justs re explains it.
Yes, the definition that's in my mind.Re post the feat of SS giving off a nova's worth of light then.
Look back a page or two man...
Originally posted by 753
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This set-up favors Superman rather hard, since it guarantees he'll go full-speed mode from the start and Surfer has no answer to that.
I'm a bit amused by most of the posters lack of inability to think for themselves, or think - period.
Surfer is unable to even process Superman moving at full speed - to further suggest that he'd:
- think of this specific method of attack
- scan Superman for weaknesses
- incorporate those weaknesses into the chosen method of attack
- have the mental speed to coordonate the board which has achieved a speed of "1000 times lightspeed" to hit a full-speeding Superman..
..within the fraction of time it takes Superman to be all over his face at the start of the match, is rather asinine. Of course, assuming the known 'different Universe, kryptonite has no effect' rule doesn't apply here in the first place. Or if you cherry pick "James Robinson - one of the worst Superman writers in decades" portrayals - the same way I can pick Superman taking red sun radiation attacks from a Sun-Eater and plowing through them - followed by him taking the equivalent of 50 supernovas to the face and staying conscious.
Superman goes intangible and screams Surfer out of existence. ermmnone
Originally posted by Philosophía
This set-up favors Superman rather hard, since it guarantees he'll go full-speed mode from the start and Surfer has no answer to that.
I'm a bit amused by most of the posters lack of inability to think for themselves, or think - period.Surfer is unable to even process Superman moving at full speed - to further suggest that he'd:
- think of this specific method of attack
- scan Superman for weaknesses
- incorporate those weaknesses into the chosen method of attack
- have the mental speed to coordonate the board which has achieved a speed of "1000 times lightspeed" to hit a full-speeding Superman....within the fraction of time it takes Superman to be all over his face at the start of the match, is rather asinine. Of course, assuming the known 'different Universe, kryptonite has no effect' rule doesn't apply here in the first place. Or if you cherry pick "James Robinson - one of the worst Superman writers in decades" portrayals - the same way I can pick Superman taking red sun radiation attacks from a Sun-Eater and plowing through them - followed by him taking the equivalent of 50 supernovas to the face and staying conscious.
Superman goes intangible and screams Surfer out of existence. ermmnone
Originally posted by darthgooberMeaning?
First things first, you do realize that things like whether or not Surfer thinking of any specific method or scan Supes for weaknesses are irrelevant in this thread, right?
Noticed you edited 'red sun radiation' over weakenesses, otherwised I'd have asked you to post how to create kryptonite - because if that weren't the case there's no way Surfer'd know without applying his cosmic senses - assuming that'd work.
I also hope you're not confsing "No CIS/PIS" / "They know what we know" with "I control the character like in a videogame", are you Goob? Because I know Surfer fans do that even in threads that are not with this stipulations.
Edit: missed the "we control them" part.
That still doesn't change anything from my post besides the "thinks of that specific method at the instant the battle starts".
Originally posted by Philosophía
Meaning?
Originally posted by psycho gundam
superman vs surfer, but this version is with tournament style rules in play, i.e. no rules 😐 (actually, no cis and other things.)- both characters know what WE know of either of them, and will try and put each other down using that knowledge without holding back as any of us would have them act in an actual tournament setting. we control them
- to allow both sides a more fair attempt to use their powers, they fight in a simulacrum universe (minus heroes and villain) with a populated earth (human citizens, plant, and animal life), planets, and stars.
- no prep
Originally posted by Philosophía
That still doesn't change anything from my post besides the "thinks of that specific method at the instant the battle starts".
And yeah I figured I'd save some trouble with the edit because my primary strategy involves red sun rather than K-nite and my part in the discussion got sidetracked in that direction already.
Originally posted by Philosophía
If he only plans to use red sun radiation, sure.
Originally posted by Philosophía
This set-up favors Superman rather hard, since it guarantees he'll go full-speed mode from the start and Surfer has no answer to that.
I'm a bit amused by most of the posters lack of inability to think for themselves, or think - period.Surfer is unable to even process Superman moving at full speed - to further suggest that he'd:
- think of this specific method of attack
- scan Superman for weaknesses
- incorporate those weaknesses into the chosen method of attack
- have the mental speed to coordonate the board which has achieved a speed of "1000 times lightspeed" to hit a full-speeding Superman....within the fraction of time it takes Superman to be all over his face at the start of the match, is rather asinine. Of course, assuming the known 'different Universe, kryptonite has no effect' rule doesn't apply here in the first place. Or if you cherry pick "James Robinson - one of the worst Superman writers in decades" portrayals - the same way I can pick Superman taking red sun radiation attacks from a Sun-Eater and plowing through them - followed by him taking the equivalent of 50 supernovas to the face and staying conscious.
Superman goes intangible and screams Surfer out of existence. ermmnone
Too bad you didn't read the OP: this is tournament style. They know what we know about the characters and we decide their actions, no scanning would be necessary.
LOL at SS not being able to counter SM's speed, he has reaction feats on par and not only can he blast in all directions with whatever type of energy he chooses as soon as it starts, he can simply let SM's punches phase through him.
Yeap, here's how it would go:
Supes speed blitzes.
Supes rains down punches onto the Surfer
Surfer phases and lets the punches/attacks go thru him.
OR Surfer shrinks to microverse size and go inside Supes.
Surfer opens a Singularity inside Supe's brain.
OR Surfer Omniblasts Red Sun Radiation and simply slices Supes in half with his board.
End.
I think from a dead start, Surfer has Superman beat in travelling speed. So maybe the best maneuver for Surfer here would be to zoom away from Superman instantly to a safe distance or, should Superman be following him, just continue keeping slightly beyond reach as I also believe Surfer's top travelling speed beats out Superman's. In either scenario, this should give Surfer more than enough time and wherewithal to charge his body with nova intensity light and just go from there.
Granted, I find the claims that Surfer cannot process Superman's combat speed to be dubious, but this cheesy tactic eliminates the need to belabor that point. Speed kills, right?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0this cheesy tactic is an unlikely one
I think from a dead start, Surfer has Superman beat in travelling speed. So maybe the best maneuver for Surfer here would be to zoom away from Superman instantly to a safe distance or, should Superman be following him, just continue keeping slightly beyond reach as I also believe Surfer's top travelling speed beats out Superman's. In either scenario, this should give Surfer more than enough time and wherewithal to charge his body with nova intensity light and just go from there.Granted, I find the claims that Surfer cannot process Superman's combat speed to be dubious, but this cheesy tactic eliminates the need to belabor that point. Speed kills, right?
whereas superman blitzing surfer is very plausible.
