Thanos vs Herculese (current)

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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Except that we saw what Thanos did to Galactus.. it wasn't mooning him it was blasting him... Ooo and I'm sure that would enrage him.

We saw him get his hat knocked off. That's about it. I'm not sure where you get the idea that Galactus was actually harmed in any real way.

I doubt that blast did anything more than tickle galan.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
I doubt that blast did anything more than tickle galan.

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You'd have to be wearing special Thanos beer goggles to think otherwise.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
We saw him get his hat knocked off. That's about it. I'm not sure where you get the idea that Galactus was actually harmed in any real way.

What I'm saying Omega and where the tooling of ODG came in was this... ODG was saying that because Thanos said all he did was enrage Galactus, that this is proof he did no damage and didn't even feel the attack. When in fact, we did visually see damage to Galactus... AND as I stated.. he was trying to stop Galactus from making a big mistake.. he knew that blast wasn't going to put him down nor make him listen to reason... Therefore, that would be the right line to use... All I accomplished was to further enrage him. He was trying to accomplish stopping Galactus from making a big mistake.. if he could do so.. he accomplished nothing.. yet that doesn't mean we can take a speculative leap and say he meant he did no damage to him and he felt nothing can we. To go further... as I stated.. I could punch brock lesner and easily retort... all I did was further piss him off.. that doesn't mean he didn't feel a thing.. just that I don't have the firepower to put him down and now he's pissed. Simple.

How does damage to ones armor equate to hurting them?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
What I'm saying Omega and where the tooling of ODG came in was this... ODG was saying that because Thanos said all he did was enrage Galactus, that this is proof he did no damage and didn't even feel the attack. When in fact, we did visually see damage to Galactus... AND as I stated.. he was trying to stop Galactus from making a big mistake.. he knew that blast wasn't going to put him down nor make him listen to reason... Therefore, that would be the right line to use... All I accomplished was to further enrage him. He was trying to accomplish stopping Galactus from making a big mistake.. if he could do so.. he accomplished nothing.. yet that doesn't mean we can take a speculative leap and say he meant he did no damage to him and he felt nothing can we. To go further... as I stated.. I could punch brock lesner and easily retort... all I did was further piss him off.. that doesn't mean he didn't feel a thing.. just that I don't have the firepower to put him down and now he's pissed. Simple.

And yet we're supposed to make the leap in logic that being knocked on the ground causes harm?

All we saw was Galactus being moved by the blast and his hat being knocked off. That's it. Don't try to project anything more to that instance than what is given simply to make it seem like Thanos was in any way a threat to Galactus or capable of actually harming him.

The difference in power between Thanos and Galactus is much larger than that between Brock Lesnar and you. Use your head for a minute, that analogy is terrible.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Nope, I just tooled your premise and conclusion with ease.
Right. By utterly ignoring that Thanos himself stated outright he didn't do anything more than enrage Galactus:

You haven't tooled anybody but yourself here. Stop trying to argue that Thanos "rocked" Galactus. He didn't.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
How does damage to ones armor equate to hurting them?
The important question is, "How does damage to ones armor equate to hurting them when the character himself admits he didn't do anything more than enrage him?"

Originally posted by Omega Vision
And yet we're supposed to make the leap in logic that being knocked on the ground causes harm?

All we saw was Galactus being moved by the blast and his hat being knocked off. That's it. Don't try to project anything more to that instance than what is given simply to make it seem like Thanos was in any way a threat to Galactus or capable of actually harming him.

The difference in power between Thanos and Galactus is much larger than that between Brock Lesnar and you. Use your head for a minute, that analogy is terrible.

No the gap isn't much larger and you missed the WHOLE point of the analogy which surprises me. The comparison of power levels between me and Brock and Thanos and Galactus is irrlevant. The premise remains sound... If I hit Brock with a jab.. I know for a fact that isn't going to do a thing to hiim right.. I know it would take more than that to put him down. Especially when I know he's still standing there. What would I possibly say which is EXACTLY what Thanos said... All I did was piss off Brock. That is the point.. That line doesn't prove diddly squat. That is exactly what you would say.. when you KNOW you dno't have the firepower to put him down AND AND.. you were going there to ACCOMPLISH a goal.. the GOAL WASN'T to harm Galactus and thus he was saying he didn't accomplish his goal. His Goal WAS TO STOP GALACTUS from making a bad move. SO thanos saying he ACCOMPLISHED nothings isn't proof of him not hurting Galactus. If he mission was to harm him AND HE SAID THAT.. ODG would have a leg to stand on.. However, it wasn't.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Right. By utterly ignoring that Thanos himself stated outright he didn't do anything more than enrage Galactus:

You haven't tooled anybody but yourself here. Stop trying to argue that Thanos "rocked" Galactus. He didn't. The important question is, "How does damage to ones armor equate to hurting them when the character himself admits he didn't do anything more than enrage him?"

Read my post above which is logically said and speaks towards the on panel facts. Thanos mission to accomplish WASN'T to harm Galactus and thus when he said he accomplished nothing he was talking about harm... buzz... fail.. Nope that wasn't he mission to accomplish wasn't it ODG. It was to stop Galactus from making a bad choice... Thus when he said he accomplished nothing... DOESN'T mean Galactus didn't feel a thing or it didn't harm him in anyway. He's speaking about the mission he failed to accomplish. Furthermore, as I pointed out in my analogy which you have no counter for... When I hit Brock Lesnar with a jab... I could easily say and know... well all that did was piss him off. In no way shape or form doesn't that mean he didn't feel the jab I just hit hiim with or did zero damage... It means.. since he isn't going to put him down and now he's going to come after me.. all it did was piss him off. Thanks for playing.

Amped Herc wins.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Read my post above which is logically said and speaks towards the on panel facts. Thanos mission to accomplish WASN'T to harm Galactus and thus when he said he accomplished nothing he was talking about harm... buzz... fail.. Nope that wasn't he mission to accomplish wasn't it ODG. It was to stop Galactus from making a bad choice... Thus when he said he accomplished nothing... DOESN'T mean Galactus didn't feel a thing or it didn't harm him in anyway. He's speaking about the mission he failed to accomplish. Furthermore, as I pointed out in my analogy which you have no counter for... When I hit Brock Lesnar with a jab... I could easily say and know... well all that did was piss him off. In no way shape or form doesn't that mean he didn't feel the jab I just hit hiim with or did zero damage... It means.. since he isn't going to put him down and now he's going to come after me.. all it did was piss him off. Thanks for playing.
Thanos' mission wasn't to harm Galactus. So what?

He didn't. Thanos himself states outright he didn't do anything more than enrage him. Why do you keep trying to argue he did something more? He didn't and Thanos had no illusions he did:

All you have is your illusions. Despite it being announced that you shouldn't. What exactly is so wrong about the comic that you have to deny this?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Thanos' mission wasn't to harm Galactus. So what?

He didn't. Thanos himself states outright he didn't do anything more than enrage him. Why do you keep trying to argue he did something more:

What was he there to accomplish? His mission... was his mission to harm Galactus.. NO.. So him saying he accomplished nothing was in reference to HIS MISSION not whether he harmed him or not. Make no mistake.. I'm not saying it hurt Galactus or caused him any worry or concern. I'm dispelling the notion that this line means as you and mindset have argued.. that "he didn't feel a thing" "it didn't do any damage what so ever" Those things AREN'T proven by that line in the least. In fact, common sense tells us he felt it and it did some damage.. even if insignificant.. we also see damage on Galactus via artistic depiction. At no point, am I arguing that it caused him harm or made him have to heal a lot or that he was in any danger. However, as I have proven.. that line doesn't prove "he did no damage what so ever and didn't feel a thing"

^ Thanos' mission has nothing to do with whether Thanos hurt Galactus or not. Thanos' statement that he didn't do anything more than enrage Galactus does have something to with whether Thanos hurt Galactus or not.

Your deflections from Thanos' own statement and your retreat from your initial position underscores how obvious that is.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
He was enraged at being sent flying while not being harmed.

You can enrage Galactus without harming Galactus. And Thanos did just that, enraged him without harming him. He didn't have illusions he did anything more. Fin.

He was enraged because he was rocked and wasn't damaged significantly but Galactus did notice. My point is valid once again despite your vehement denial.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He was enraged because he was rocked and wasn't damaged significantly but Galactus did notice. My point is valid once again despite your vehement denial.
That's a contradiction he can't be rocked but not significantly damaged at the same time.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Thanos' mission has nothing to do with whether Thanos hurt Galactus or not. Thanos' statement that he didn't do anything more than enrage Galactus does have something to with whether Thanos hurt Galactus or not.

Your deflections from Thanos' own statement and your retreat from your initial position underscores how obvious that is.

I will call you out once again.. please show me where I retreated from? I'm going to love this... I retreated from nothing this entire time.. all I've done is tool your premise and conclusion over and over.

In fact, you're the one retreating... first you loved to quote the whole line.. then after I pointed out the KEY word there ACCOMPLISH in Thanos line.. which IS WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH SAID LINE. He was referring to what his mission was and what he was trying to accomplish. The ONLY WAY you would have a point is if Thanos mission was to accomplish harming Galactus. In fact, it wasn't was it ODG as you just admitted. Thus him saying he accomplished nothing more than piss off Galactus was speaking towards his mission failure not whether he was trying to harm him or not. Simpy too easy ODG and I expected more from you.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
That's a contradiction he can't be rocked but not significantly damaged at the same time.
Yes, he can.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I will call you out once again.. please show me where I retreated from? I'm going to love this... I retreated from nothing this entire time.. all I've done is tool your premise and conclusion over and over.
You retreated from your position that obviously Galactus was harmed:
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
First, he obviously did harm him....
Here is your retreat:
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
At no point, am I arguing that it caused him harm or made him have to heal a lot or that he was in any danger.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
In fact, you're the one retreating... first you loved to quote the whole line.. then after I pointed out the KEY word there ACCOMPLISH in Thanos line.. which IS WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH SAID LINE. He was referring to what his mission was and what he was trying to accomplish. The ONLY WAY you would have a point is if Thanos mission was to accomplish harming Galactus. In fact, it wasn't was it ODG as you just admitted. Thus him saying he accomplished nothing more than piss off Galactus was speaking towards his mission failure not whether he was trying to harm him or not. Simpy too easy ODG and I expected more from you.
I'm not arguing whether Thanos absolutely meant to harm Galactus. I never did. You're just trying to twist my statements into something they're not, i.e., a false absolute that you can easily rebut. Or, in other words, you're straw-manning me. This is becoming a habit of your's. When you want to argue with what I stated, feel free to inform me. IN the meantime, keep retreating.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He was enraged because he was rocked and wasn't damaged significantly but Galactus did notice. My point is valid once again despite your vehement denial.
He was enraged. Period. Nothing more than that. As stated by Thanos himself. Unfortunately, you don't like how the comic, (really, Thanos himself), outright states that. Call your congressman.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You retreated from your position that obviously Galactus was harmed: Here is your retreat: I'm not arguing whether Thanos absolutely meant to harm Galactus. I never did. You're just trying to twist my statements into something they're not, i.e., a false absolute that you can easily rebut. Or, in other words, you're straw-manning me. This is becoming a habit of your's. When you want to argue with what I stated, feel free to inform me. IN the meantime, keep retreating. He was enraged. Period. Nothing more than that. As stated by Thanos himself. Unfortunately, you don't like how the comic, (really, Thanos himself), outright states that. Call your congressman.
Call my congressman over a disagreement online with someone about a comic. I think you're overreacting here.

You originally stated it had no effect on Galactus but now have since rescinded your point as usual.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You retreated from your position that obviously Galactus was harmed: Here is your retreat: I'm not arguing whether Thanos absolutely meant to harm Galactus. I never did. You're just trying to twist my statements into something they're not, i.e., a false absolute that you can easily rebut. Or, in other words, you're straw-manning me. This is becoming a habit of your's. When you want to argue with what I stated, feel free to inform me. IN the meantime, keep retreating. He was enraged. Period. Nothing more than that. As stated by Thanos himself. Unfortunately, you don't like how the comic, (really, Thanos himself), outright states that. Call your congressman.

Nice try ODG.. but it failed yet again.. You quoted ONLY PART of my first sentence in regards to harm... if you quoted the whole thing.. you will clearly see what I was talking about... I said first he clearly did harm him BECAUSE he see him looked in a different state then before the blast. He see damage actually evident on his body. That is exactly what I said the WHOLE Sentence. Not your exclusion of the entire eentence to support your attempts. I retreated from nothing...I said very clearly obviously there was harm done because he looks worse for the wear after the blast than before. However, that doesn't change the fact that it did no lasting damage or really hurt him in any way. Thanks for the attempt though.. but it was too easy.