Who can last the longest against Thanos?

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Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Where on God's Green Earth do you ever get that this statement means he totally recovered.. You do know basic english right? They NEVER said... he is 100% now... Thanos is back at full strength... we can't contain him now.. NOTHING that said nor even implied he was 100%. They said he's recovered too much NOT.. TOTALLY or FULLY or any other word like that. I believe it's you who needs to learn basic english, or at the very least, basic reading comprehension
Turning the absence of evidence into evidence of absence is a retarded logical fallacy. Saying there's no statement that he was 100% is about as perceptive and helpful a comment as saying there's no statement that he wasn't 100%.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Now are we forgetting how this whole conversation started... I think you are... I didn't come in here saying oooo he was weakened and thus we didn't know for no reason did I? You saying I'm being like captain obvious is a DIRECT result of you misspeaking, and like usual, me having to correct you. Not only in this thread but in other threads on the same subject. YOU and others said Thanos showed to be weak to anti-matter and that is all it would take to beat him. Hmmm see now why I had to come in here and correct? You never bothered to mention any of the stuff I pointed out that seriously calls into question whether it would actually work on a full powered thanos. So it was you leaving out key things and stating things as a fact (It would work, he IS vulnerable) which caused me to come here in the first place. It would be like a high powered gun hurting Superman.. and me going ooo yeah all we need is that high powered gun and superman is going to be hurt... while leaving out the part about him being weakened both physically and mentally.. That is why I had to come in here and correct you and others in the first place.. guess you forget that part, but don't worry I didn't forget your mistake.
You haven't corrected anything. You're just insisting a complete non-point for argument's sake. We don't know for sure 100% that Thanos would get disintegrated just as completely if someone stuck another anti-matter mine on him. Nobody argues this point but you. You're arguing with thin air and pretending that this utter non-statement somehow overturns everything that's being discussed, or offers a revelation to every poster here, or elevates your observations to an exalted status. That would be quaint in and of itself if you weren't trying to take it one step further and suggest that non-statement should prevent any conversation on the likelihood of anti-matter beign successfully used again whatsoever.

We don't know if Thanos beats Superman 9/10. Some people have said as much. Nobody has 100% proof that is exactly what would happen beyond a doubt. But few people spend pages upon pages protesting about "We can't be 100% sure of it one way or another. Oh god, you're being so irresponsible for stating something like that. There are no absolute truths, blah blah blah, they haven't ever met once on-panel, blah blah blah. You're wrong, I'm right. blah blah blah." Most people don't spend time completely and utterly qualifying every single one of their statements to escape your ham-fisted and forced nit-picking.

What exactly are you posting for? What's the entire point behind this utter farce that essentially is a negative proof fallacy? That's all you can contribute to the discussion? Yeah, we've heard it. And we don't care. If you're that desperate to continue fvcking this non-argument into oblivion, you can grapple with this negative proof fallacy:

"You noobs. You can't say it's clear beyond a doubt that it wouldn't work again. You can't say without a doubt that any extra recovery would make a difference. It completely disintegrated him before. Maybe it half disintegrates him again. Or just disintegrates his chest. Fact is, WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. That's fact. ADMIT IT. So stop talking about the possibility that it wouldn't work. Stop saying otherwise. blah, b1tch, moan, blah."

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Turning the absence of evidence into evidence of absence is a retarded logical fallacy. Saying there's no statement that he was 100% is about as perceptive and helpful a comment as saying there's no statement that he wasn't 100%. You haven't corrected anything. You're just insisting a complete non-point for argument's sake. We don't know for sure 100% that Thanos would get disintegrated just as completely if someone stuck another anti-matter mine on him. Nobody argues this point but you. You're arguing with thin air and pretending that this utter non-statement somehow overturns everything that's being discussed, or offers a revelation to every poster here, or elevates your observations to an exalted status. That would be quaint in and of itself if you weren't trying to take it one step further and suggest that non-statement should prevent any conversation on the likelihood of anti-matter beign successfully used again whatsoever.

We don't know if Thanos beats Superman 9/10. Some people have said as much. Nobody has 100% proof that is exactly what would happen beyond a doubt. But few people spend pages upon pages protesting about "We can't be 100% sure of it one way or another. Oh god, you're being so irresponsible for stating something like that. There are no absolute truths, blah blah blah, they haven't ever met once on-panel, blah blah blah. You're wrong, I'm right. blah blah blah." Most people don't spend time completely and utterly qualifying every single one of their statements to escape your ham-fisted and forced nit-picking.

What exactly are you posting for? What's the entire point behind this utter farce that essentially is a negative proof fallacy? That's all you can contribute to the discussion? Yeah, we've heard it. And we don't care. If you're that desperate to continue fvcking this non-argument into oblivion, you can grapple with this negative proof fallacy:

[b]"You noobs. You can't say it's clear beyond a doubt that it wouldn't work again. You can't say without a doubt that any extra recovery would make a difference. It completely disintegrated him before. Maybe it half disintegrates him again. Or just disintegrates his chest. Fact is, WE DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. That's fact. ADMIT IT. So stop talking about the possibility that it wouldn't work. Stop saying otherwise. blah, b1tch, moan, blah." [/B]

False. I came here to state the facts and correct you and others. People were saying Thanos was shown to be weak to anti-matter.. we had people saying all someone needs is to come up with anti matter to beat thanos.. As if it's a given.. LEAVING out the facts that I had to point out. No.. he wasn't.. somebody get hurt by something while weakened doesn't prove they are now vulnerable to said attack. It doesn't prove that at all. Just like it doesn't prove that this attack woudl then work. If those statements were said.. and it was also said.. well he was weak both mentally and physically and had durability issues.. so we don't know.. there woudl be no issue. You and other not speaking correctly and leaving out those facts and acting like it would for sure work and he does for sure have a weakness to it. Those are the corrections I needed to make.

^ You came in here (and in other threads) to troll and contain fair discussions of how reliable anti-matter would be against Thanos. Which is just one singular issue. And instead of providing evidence that it wasn't reliable at all, you provided a non-argument: we can't know 100% absolutely for sure it will work the same way it did before.

Yeah, and we can't know 100% absolutely for sure it won't work the same way it did before.

Stupid non-argument is stupid. Someone says "Superman beats Wonder Woman 6/10." So what? You're going to go into that random thread and troll the sh1t out of them for pages because we can't know 100% absolutely for sure that Supes beats WW six out of ten times? All because they didn't carefully prepare for your eventful arrival and didn't utterly qualify their opinion thinking about all the angles to protect from even the most tiniest of inconsequential criticisms? Yeah... I don't see you doing that in other threads. Just here and other threads where anti-matter and Thanos get brought up.

So not only are your motivations completely dubious -- as reflected in your single-minded behavior -- but you're still not doing anything but presenting a non-argument that nobody gives a crap about, much less is worthy of disputing. It's a non-argument. You'll not discover justification for it no matter how far you twist threads or conversations.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ You came in here (and in other threads) to troll and contain fair discussions of how reliable anti-matter would be against Thanos. Which is just one singular issue. And instead of providing evidence that it wasn't reliable at all, you provided a non-argument: [b]we can't know 100% absolutely for sure it will work the same way it did before.

Yeah, and we can't know 100% absolutely for sure it won't work the same way it did before.

Stupid non-argument is stupid. Someone says "Superman beats Wonder Woman 6/10." So what? You're going to go into that random thread and troll the sh1t out of them for pages because we can't know 100% absolutely for sure that Supes beats WW six out of ten times? All because they didn't carefully prepare for your eventful arrival and didn't utterly qualify their opinion thinking about all the angles to protect from even the most tiniest of inconsequential criticisms? Yeah... I don't see you doing that in other threads. Just here and other threads where anti-matter and Thanos get brought up.

So not only are your motivations completely dubious -- as reflected in your single-minded behavior -- but you're still not doing anything but presenting a non-argument that nobody gives a crap about, much less is worthy of disputing. It's a non-argument. You'll not discover justification for it no matter how far you twist threads or conversations. [/B]

You're without a doubt, so so slow sometimes it's not even funny. Much like the other thread where you straight out lied and twisted the facts.. you're doing the same here. My argument ISN'T just that we don't know what it would work or not. You can keep saying that is all I'm talking about, to hide you and other misrespresentation of the facts. You and others said.. Thanos IS.. do you know what that word IS means? That mean it's certain he IS vulnerable.. That along with saying IT WOULD work isn't the only problem. You are acting like it's a GIVEN when in fact it isn't. You speaking like it is and not speaking correctly is why I'm here. Howver, as I keep repeating over and over.. it isn't just because of that… it's the fact that not only did you act like it was certain it would work (untrue) but also LEFT OUT the part where he was weakened and that could be the very reason it worked. Nobody bothered to mention that and time and time again I've had to bring up this fact. You trying to bold things and say the same thing over and over doesn't change you not speaking correctly.. AND forgetting to mention KEY factors. You can't change that fact and is exactly why I came here to yet again set you and others straight.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Actually the writers went out of their way to show how far Thanos' recovery had come. Here is what we know from on-panel fact: [b](i) Thanos was mentally locked down by Cosmo and Mantis but Thanos recovered enough mental durability to be virtually immune by the time Drax assaulted him; (ii) Thanos couldn't even stand and was convulsing when he first jumped in that universe but he was standing and fighting by the time Drax attacked him; (iii) Thanos was barely capable of speaking when he first jumped in that universe but Thanos recovered, was intelligent and commanding the team essentially by the time Drax lost his patience.

How much more recovery do you imagine Thanos was capable of? Your speculation on that question doesn't completely and utterly banish the viability of anti-matter being used against Thanos again. That surely would be a convenient excuse, using a remote and miniscule speculative possibility to throw doubt into the absolute truth of an outcome, thus dispelling all discussion on the probability of that outcome. But we're not dealing with absolutes here. It'll probably work. All indications point that way. Not the opposite.

If it doesn't work as effectively -- as in... it'll only blow a gaping cavity in his chest -- because of some extra recovery he could possibly make use of... what difference does that really make here concerning its viability?

Your protestation that we shouldn't consider it working because it is "speculation" that it absolutely would work can more rightly be thrown back in your face: that we shouldn't consider it not working because it is "speculation" that it would absolutely not work.

So between those two absolutist positions: whose speculation requires more conjecture and supposition? <--- That's a rhetorical question. [/B]

Nah your wrong, all that was said about Thanos recovery was that he was Getting stronger after he killed the cancerversers, and that his mind was getting harder to see into which Cosmo said, which makes sense when it took 3 telepaths to shut him down in the first place. Plus one of the telepaths was able to read his mind and see how much pain he was in when he came back after Drax killed him, therefore proving he was still vulnerable as his mind was weak and able to be read.

Like i said before there is far more proof and statements showing/saying he was not at full power(altough he was getting stronger) than there is even suggesting that he was back full power, if there is such proof please post it.

^ First off... Mantis being able to detect Thanos' pain after being disintegrated probably has more to do with the fact that he is vulnerable from reforming... after being disintegrated.

You've not provided any proof other than when he first entered, Thanos was all goofy and messed up. Whilst wholly ignoring that Thanos was not all goofy and messed up by the time he picked a fight with Drax. Get over it.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You're without a doubt, so so slow sometimes it's not even funny. Much like the other thread where you straight out lied and twisted the facts.. you're doing the same here. My argument ISN'T just that we don't know what it would work or not. You can keep saying that is all I'm talking about, to hide you and other misrespresentation of the facts. You and others said.. Thanos IS.. do you know what that word IS means? That mean it's certain he IS vulnerable.. That along with saying IT WOULD work isn't the only problem. You are acting like it's a GIVEN when in fact it isn't. You speaking like it is and not speaking correctly is why I'm here. Howver, as I keep repeating over and over.. it isn't just because of that… it's the fact that not only did you act like it was certain it would work (untrue) but also LEFT OUT the part where he was weakened and that could be the very reason it worked. Nobody bothered to mention that and time and time again I've had to bring up this fact. You trying to bold things and say the same thing over and over doesn't change you not speaking correctly.. AND forgetting to mention KEY factors. You can't change that fact and is exactly why I came here to yet again set you and others straight.
K, troll. Thanks for your repetitive reminder that at one point before, Thanos appeared vulnerable.

You didn't set sh1t straight. You just failed at your attempt to contain and banish attempted discussions on the viability of anti-matter against Thanos with rampant ham-fisted declarations like this:

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
There is zero indication that anti matter would work on a full powered Thanos. Thanos was still weakened both mentally and physically when hit by the anti matter blast. That along with his durability specifically being mentioned to be lower than normal.. All that makes it clear, there is zero evidence this would work on a full powered thanos.
Like that declaration doesn't even mention that all that speculation abotu Thanos' durability happened two issues before Drax actually attacked Thanos? And two issues after Thanos was already showing signs of recovery? Thank you for the daily reminder that at one point Thanos was highly disoriented from entering the Cancerverse. We get it, Captain Obvious. You've said it a hundred times. Next time you feel the need to remind us, throw in the observation that Thanos visibly recovered a great deal and that you have no evidence to suggest that any extra recovery would make a difference as to whether anti matter would work again. Might be a change of pace.

^👆👆not only that, when RR speculates that Thanos was weakened, he had just woken up from the CC blast and was subdued by a TP lockdown that failed when he first emerged from his cocoon, more invulnerable to physical and TP attacks than ever. there is no proof or evidence that ressurected thanos is weaker than pre-death classic "full power" thanos. He was only temporarily weakened by two events, the CC blast and entering the cancerverse. the latter one being a mental condition.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ First off... Mantis being able to detect Thanos' pain after being disintegrated probably has more to do with the fact that he is vulnerable from reforming... after being disintegrated.
Yet he was able to kill Drax with one blast.

You've not provided any proof other than when he first entered, Thanos was all goofy and messed up. Whilst wholly ignoring that Thanos was not all goofy and messed up by the time he picked a fight with Drax. Get over it. again.
And you havent provided anythoing either, at least i have the on panel statements alluding to the fact his weak state effected his durability.

After all Thanos couldnt put Drax down with a hit just before Drax hit him with anti matter but was able to kill him in one hit when he came back seeming to be more powerful(gotten stronger)

So, I take it ODG favors Nimrod creating Anti-Matter and 'killing' Thanos?

Originally posted by Nihilist
Yet he was able to kill Drax with one blast.
doesnt say much, drax isn't that durable and pain doesnt mean weakness either.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
So, I take it ODG favors Nimrod creating Anti-Matter and 'killing' Thanos?

correct.. well him along with others say stuff like...

1. Thanos has been shown to be vulnerable to Anti-matter (when in fact that wasn't shown) What was shown is that a weakened Thanos was vulnerable to anti-matter... Then again anybody in a weakened state is pretty much vulnerable to a lot.. lol

2. The above along with.. all somebody needs to do is create anti matter to get a victory over Thanos.. All awesome stuff.. I tell ya

^ Nice job troll. Were I you and trying to emulate your behavior, I'd jump all over you and spam-post about how "I never said Nimrod could create anti-matter! How dare you! Quote me where I said that!" "ZOMG, I never once stated that and anywayz you have no 100% proof that he wouldn't!!!" "BTW, for the 753rd time, Thanos at one point was disoriented upon entering the Cancerverse!!!" "Christ, mommy! He still won't admit that I never said Nimrod would beat Thanos with anti-matter! Report button. Report button. Report button."

Originally posted by Nihilist
Yet he was able to kill Drax with one blast.

And you havent provided anythoing either, at least i have the on panel statements alluding to the fact his weak state effected his durability.

After all Thanos couldnt put Drax down with a hit just before Drax hit him with anti matter but was able to kill him in one hit when he came back seeming to be more powerful(gotten stronger)

So what? You're seriously arguing that Thanos was near full power right as he reformed himself from dying? He's one-shotting life avatars left and right having become the avatar of death. Drax was an avatar of life.

WTF are you talking about? How many times do I need to repeat the following three undeniable facts: (i) Thanos was mentally locked down by Cosmo and Mantis but Thanos recovered enough mental durability to be virtually immune by the time Drax assaulted him; (ii) Thanos couldn't even stand and was convulsing when he first jumped in that universe but he was standing and fighting by the time Drax attacked him; (iii) Thanos was barely capable of speaking when he first jumped in that universe but Thanos recovered, was intelligent and commanding the team essentially by the time Drax lost his patience.

I don't recall Thanos blasting Drax with a blast of plot-device-my-blasts-kill-avatars-of-life energy until he actually killed Drax.

Originally posted by 753
doesnt say much, drax isn't that durable and pain doesnt mean weakness either.
😂

Originally posted by Nihilist
😂
laugh away fanboy, truth hurts doesnt it?

Originally posted by 753
laugh away fanboy, truth hurts doesnt it?
What truth? because it dont see any coming from you.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Nice job troll. Were I you and trying to emulate your behavior, I'd jump all over you and spam-post about how "I never said Nimrod could create anti-matter! How dare you! Quote me where I said that!" "ZOMG, I never once stated that and anywayz you have no 100% proof that he wouldn't!!!" "BTW, for the 753rd time, Thanos at one point was disoriented upon entering the Cancerverse!!!" "Christ, mommy! He still won't admit that I never said Nimrod would beat Thanos with anti-matter! Report button. Report button. Report button." So what? You're seriously arguing that Thanos was near full power right as he reformed himself from dying? He's one-shotting life avatars left and right having become the avatar of death. Drax was an avatar of life.

WTF are you talking about? How many times do I need to repeat the following three undeniable facts: [b](i) Thanos was mentally locked down by Cosmo and Mantis but Thanos recovered enough mental durability to be virtually immune by the time Drax assaulted him; (ii) Thanos couldn't even stand and was convulsing when he first jumped in that universe but he was standing and fighting by the time Drax attacked him; (iii) Thanos was barely capable of speaking when he first jumped in that universe but Thanos recovered, was intelligent and commanding the team essentially by the time Drax lost his patience.

I don't recall Thanos blasting Drax with a blast of plot-device-my-blasts-kill-avatars-of-life energy until he actually killed Drax. [/B]

Again... me having to correct your statements and add on key bits of info makes you look bad.. not the other way around. You left out the part about him being weakened and acted like it would for sure work. When in fact, you now say.. well it's likely to work. Well if you would've used the right words I wouldn't have to always correct you. Just like when you flat out lied in the other thread saying it was NEVER stated or implied he was in WM mode... remember... When in fact that was a total and complete lie.

The argument that someone walking and talking without hindrance assumes they are 100% isn't a very good argument... He shook off the initial effects when he arrived/was attacked but that doesn't mean that the thanos we saw is the same power level as a thanos that was at full strength... The fact that you are constantly making the argument a person who appears okay is 100% doesn't make it true.
When superman hits a red sun environment you qouldnt know he was powerless... Until he fought...

Superman gets sundipped and is overcharged you don't see him walking around with a halo... When superman is

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Again... me having to correct your statements and add on key bits of info makes you look bad.. not the other way around. You left out the part about him being weakened and acted like it would for sure work. When in fact, you now say.. well it's likely to work. Well if you would've used the right words I wouldn't have to always correct you. Just like when you flat out lied in the other thread saying it was NEVER stated or implied he was in WM mode... remember... When in fact that was a total and complete lie.
Translation: "Somehow, after having my trollish behavior exposed for what it is (as it is purely ensconsed in Thanos butt-hurt), I still think my trollish behavior actually adds something to this conversation. Despite the fact that I haven't proferred evidence at all. Despite the fact all I've been reduced to is mincing words that nobody cares about and repeating myself for the 754th time."

We get it. Your butt-hurt and you like to smear your bleeding bung-hole over any thread that talks about anti-matter disintegrating Thanos. Thanks for reminding us.

Low Herald Nimrod beats Trans Tier Thanos...

Weakness exploitation + Anti-Matter for the win!!

🙂

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Translation: "Somehow, after having my trollish behavior exposed for what it is (as it is purely ensconsed in Thanos butt-hurt), I still think my trollish behavior actually adds something to this conversation. Despite the fact that I haven't proferred evidence at all. Despite the fact all I've been reduced to is mincing words that nobody cares about and repeating myself for the 754th time."

We get it. Your butt-hurt and you like to smear your bleeding bung-hole over any thread that talks about anti-matter disintegrating Thanos. Thanks for reminding us.

At this point you appear to be the main person teolling... Just saying the guy you've turned to a pretty weak argument and seem to be resting hour laurels on attacking kt only... Away from fact basis and more to your own opinion which you are accusing kt of...