Captain America vs. Superman: The Ultimate Hero

Originally posted by Starscream M
yeah, just like being a billionaire would be pointless too huh? 🙄

Being a billionaire IS pointless 😐

Originally posted by Omega Vision
The members of the Quintessence were more powerful and they succumbed to Joker's powers...

I have to say that sounds like PIS. Or it may have to do with the context of the situation if some people have an attachment to something that can have a stronger will.

Originally posted by Omega Vision

T-Vo had absolutely nothing to do with it.

Im pretty sure that it wasn't stated on panel that T-vo was used. However considering he actually has T-Vo you can't say his willpower has nothing to do with his powers. Clearly Dr Strange has a strong willpower but not acknolwedging the fact that he has vast mental powers is illogical.

Originally posted by Deadline
His willpower has nothing to do with his powerset?

exactly.

Originally posted by -Pr-
exactly.

Ok then you're supposed to provide an explanation? Is that alright?

Originally posted by Deadline
Ok then you're supposed to provide an explanation? Is that alright?

it's never been stated as being a power of his.

during the john byrne years his powers were entirely dependant on his willpower, but that's been long done away with.

Originally posted by Deadline
I have to say that sounds like PIS.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Why is it always PIS when Superman does the "impossible" considering he does it all the fricken time.

it's pretty much the point of the character...

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Why is it always PIS when Superman does the "impossible" considering he does it all the fricken time.

People who diminish Supes have RIS biscuits

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Why is it always PIS when Superman does the "impossible" considering he does it all the fricken time.

Other examples?

Originally posted by Deadline
Im pretty sure that it wasn't stated on panel that T-vo was used. However considering he actually has T-Vo you can't say his willpower has nothing to do with his powers. Clearly Dr Strange has a strong willpower but not acknolwedging the fact that he has vast mental powers is illogical.

Could you please address the point please.

Originally posted by -Pr-
it's never been stated as being a power of his.

Its not been stated its part of Dr Stranges powerset either but obvously his willpower will get boosted by his powers.

Originally posted by Deadline
Its not been stated its part of Dr Stranges powerset either but obvously his willpower will get boosted by his powers.

you'd have to prove that, though, and in superman's case too.

Originally posted by -Pr-
you'd have to prove that, though, and in superman's case too.

T-Vo, he battled Dominus with it?

Originally posted by Deadline
T-Vo, he battled Dominus with it?

t-vo isn't willpower. it can be aided by it and aid it, sure, but they're separate entities.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Why is it always PIS when Superman does the "impossible" considering he does it all the fricken time.

Superman is effected by PIS too Fanboy!

wink1

Originally posted by -Pr-
t-vo isn't willpower. it can be aided by it and aid it, sure, but they're separate entities.

Of course its not willpower but its a skill in the sense you have to practice it. In order to be better at it you need to have a strong will.

Also Im arguing from the point that having a powerful physical body can help. In comic and the real world a sick person would have a weaker will.

Originally posted by Deadline
Of course its not willpower but its a skill in the sense you have to practice it. In order to be better at it you need to have a strong will.

Also Im arguing from the point that having a powerful physical body can help. In comic and the real world a sick person would have a weaker will.

of course they would.

superman's will even without his powers is still considered "indomitable" either way. he's shown that even when depowered or severely weakened.

Originally posted by -Pr-
of course they would.

superman's will even without his powers is still considered "indomitable" either way.

Im not denying that but obvoulsy he does get a boost from his powerset, even if its small.

Originally posted by Deadline
Im not denying that but obvoulsy he does get a boost from his powerset, even if its small.

it's possible. you could certainly argue it if you wanted to.

Originally posted by -Pr-
it's possible. you could certainly argue it if you wanted to.

I think in the case of T-Vo, most likely. However I think he had to meditate for days or hours before taking on Dominus thats a big difference.

Originally posted by Deadline
I think in the case of T-Vo, most likely. However I think he had to meditate for days or hours before taking on Dominus thats a big difference.

i honestly disagree in that case. i think it was a combination of the two.

In the case of Emperor Joker most of his power was stripped from him, and in the beginning he was at AC #1 levels. As his will fought against the Joker's influence and he remembered the old reality he regained his power and identity.

Simply put his will is a power of its own separate from his sun-given powers.

Originally posted by Deadline
Other examples?