Colossus vs Rogue

Started by snoopdogg7 pages

Originally posted by King Castle
Rogue is faster better fighter the colossus and i see colossus having a near impossible time landing hits on her.
jYea, Rogue hardly ever got hit.

When she absorbed Quicksilver's powers she STILL couldn't even land a hit on Betsy.

Betsy is a skilled MA'er and was also using her TK to boost her speed and strength and Rogue wasnt using QS's full speed in the fight,... nor was it said she even activated it.

Rogues strength level is like between 50-70 ton range

colossus would win

Originally posted by chomperx9
Rogues strength level is like between 50-70 ton range

colossus would win

King Castle said that Colossus would not be able to land a hit on her though.

Bump.

Id give it to classic Rogue. Flight, speed and agility should give her the edge.

Is it still the case that she cant absorb his powers in his metal form?

Nope

Originally posted by -Pr-
Colossus in both if she doesn't have all the powers she's absorbed.

Can't she just absorb the shit out of Piotr in 1?

Assuming no power absorption :
Rogue wins 1. The combination of speed/maneuverability/strength/durability gives her the win after a tough fight.
Rogue loses 2. Colossus is stronger and more durable than her, he's also the better fighter IMHO.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Can't she just absorb the shit out of Piotr in 1?

Reading back through the thread apparently it was shown once that she cant absorb him when he is in metal form.

Originally posted by zopzop
Assuming no power absorption :
Rogue wins 1. The combination of speed/maneuverability/strength/durability gives her the win after a tough fight.
Rogue loses 2. Colossus is stronger and more durable than her, he's also the better fighter IMHO.

Yeah thats what I thought. Speed, maneuverability, flight is too much of a fighting edge. Colossus doesnt even leap far like She-Hulk.

Colossus don't have the leaping feats of She-Hulk but I think I've seen some in his cluttered respect thread a few years ago.

I remember him jumping up and smashing an attack helicoper once and I think he jumped up and punched a Sentinel in the face as well.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Reading back through the thread apparently it was shown once that she cant absorb him when he is in metal form.

Wow. I forgot all about this thread and was too lazy to do so.

But from some quick googling, you appear to be right:

Might be supported by more books.

Alas, I'm sure many writers would ignore it (assuming they haven't done so already), just saying. Doesn't mean we should.

I remember that I think it was in the adjectiveless X-Men book from the late 90's.

Maybe Colossus got immune with time.

Worked fine earlier:

I think there is more cases of her powers working on him than not working.

Oh, safe to say.

Similar with adamantium being highly resistant to phasing or some forms of possession. Or being allergic to hellfire.

Or the number of times Venom symbiote can bond to a host before it gets permanent.

And so on...

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Colossus don't have the leaping feats of She-Hulk but I think I've seen some in his cluttered respect thread a few years ago.

I remember him jumping up and smashing an attack helicoper once and I think he jumped up and punched a Sentinel in the face as well.

Will have to check that.

But I think its safe to say its not in character for him to do so.

And I do think the She-Hulk type leaping would be needed against Rogue.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Maybe Colossus got immune with time.

Worked fine earlier:

Huh... Weird.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Huh... Weird.

Not weird at all.

Marvel and DC did try to care about continuity in the past, but they still made thousands of errors. Many were way worse than this one.

Nowadays, they don't even pretend they care.

He was also much younger during the time...far more weaker. Based on latter showings, she cant absorb him.

Originally posted by carver9
He was also much younger during the time...far more weaker. Based on latter showings, she cant absorb him.

Rogue's gotten better with her absorption over the years, too.

She absorbed him fine in Second Coming, but we don't see it on panel. So maybe he switched to human form. Maybe.

Guess it depends whether the OP meant both Rogue and Colossus to be classic or just Rogue.

Dark Riddick still posts on KMC, just under a new account, last time I checked.