Dp Tyrant & Thanos vs. Odin & Mangog

Started by Stoic19 pages

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
... I'm sure Thanos would have affected Odin more if Thanos used that Orb against him also. As it stands, Thanos didn't hurt Odin at all.

You keep begging questions and none of them seem to get to the heart of the issue here: there is nothing Tyrant did -- aside from being inherently able to absorb B-Es -- that Odin couldn't do. And in terms of overall feats... Odin has Tyrant beat.

What else needs to be said to rebut your position that Tyrant was beyond a skyfather like Odin?

Oh no! You've gotten me wrong ODG. I only believe that Tyrant would be able to take a few from Odin, but if he were able to absorb Odins blasts my opinion of how many would rise to a strong majority in tyrant's favor. I would also hope that Odin had better feats than Tyrant, he's been around for a lot longer, so Tyrant can't compete there. It however does not rebuke, or somehow deny that Tyrant could hang with any Sky Father, or prove a lack of power in so doing.

you're trying to make me flame you, and though i'm a bit tired i will keep resisting it

trying to equate that orb with gugnir won't work cause they are not the same..... gugnir is like playing hockey with a hockey stick compared to just using your own arm...just with energy (shitty analogy but what the phuck ever). gugnir adds no power to odin but rather allows him to direct his power better, tyrant's orbs are like rechargeable batteries he makes to one day get some revenge on galactus. hopefully you managed to see the several hundred he had in his secret stash.

i guess thanos just needed one tiny one to be as strong as tyrant was using your logic here.

as far as i'm concerened, thanos didn't need any sort of amp to do what he did to tyrant

Originally posted by psycho gundam
you're trying to make me flame you, and though i'm a bit tired i will keep resisting it

trying to equate that orb with gugnir won't work cause they are not the same..... gugnir is like playing hockey with a hockey stick compared to just using your own arm...just with energy (shitty analogy but what the phuck ever). gugnir adds no power to odin but rather allows him to direct his power better, tyrant's orbs are like rechargeable batteries he makes to one day get some revenge on galactus. hopefully you managed to see the several hundred he had in his secret stash.

i guess thanos just needed one tiny one to be as strong as tyrant was using your logic here.

as far as i'm concerened, thanos didn't need any sort of amp to do what he did to tyrant

No need to flame, I was about to call it quits on the subject anyways, I'll just chalk it up to what I believe, and leave others to their belief. You know my stance.

ODG showed me why Tyrant would do better against Galactus than most, and I left it alone. The Orb in my opinion, and with great reason, amped Thanos by a decent amount. This of course, is only if you subscribe to how well Thanos did against Morg without the Orb, and would take time to consider how poorly Morg would do against Tyrant, even with the Help of a Team of Heralds.

However you have to admit, that Gungnir gave the unarmed Thanos a unfair disadvantage.

@Stoic

I, too, think we have exhausted what could be said as pertains Odin/Thanos/DP Tyrant...so I'll comment on something we touched upon earlier; The Maker.

I am not surprised at all that The Maker was able to one shot Thanos when it was mad...its a freaking Cube Being...at its full potential, it would "OMGWTFLOLOLOLOL" own Odin, DP Tyrant, and Thanos at the same time.

This also speaks volumes as to how much it had gimped itself powerwise when it faced Thanos the 2nd time; a Cube Being got beaten by a Trans Tier...thats how gimp it was at that point in time.

So it was much weaker than "a full tier and a half" when Thanos beat it; a tier and a half would still make it a very high Skyfather or somewhere between Skyfather and Elder God...and it clearly was operating at a much lower level during its Thanos fight.

Oh and I'll answer the question you asked ODG; I personally think that Thanos would get ripped apart against 7 mid to high heralds at once...

Thats just my honest opinion though...

Edit: Ripped apart might be too strong of a description, but I definitely think Thanos loses against those odds...

While its very true that Thanos beat the hell out of Surfer, he was facing him one on one and thus could focus on Surfer exclusively...

Here, he'd have the other six attacking him whenever he attempts to focus on one of them...and even with his great durability, Thanos wouldnt be able to ignore the efforts of 6 mid to high heralds at once (7 if the 7th herald could get in some shots while Thanos is attacking him)...

Originally posted by Stoic
No need to flame, I was about to call it quits on the subject anyways, I'll just chalk it up to what I believe, and leave others to their belief. You know my stance.

ODG showed me why Tyrant would do better against Galactus than most, and I left it alone. The Orb in my opinion, and with great reason, amped Thanos by a decent amount. This of course, is only if you subscribe to how well Thanos did against Morg without the Orb, and would take time to consider how poorly Morg would do against Tyrant, even with the Help of a Team of Heralds.

However you have to admit, that Gungnir gave the unarmed Thanos a unfair disadvantage.

NOt really considering thanos was literily geting back handed and tossed around before gungir showed up.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
NOt really considering thanos was literily geting back handed and tossed around before gungir showed up.

Hmmm... So maybe I'll ask you the same question. How well do you think that Thanos would do against, Jack of Hearts, Ganymede, Terrax, Gladiator, Beta Ray Bill, The Silver Surfer, and Morg? Let's see what your answer will be if you consider that Morg alone was doing well against Thanos. So?

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Oh and I'll answer the question you asked ODG; I personally think that Thanos would get ripped apart against 7 mid to high heralds at once...

Thats just my honest opinion though...

Edit: Ripped apart might be too strong of a description, but I definitely think Thanos loses against those odds...

While its very true that Thanos beat the hell out of Surfer, he was facing him one on one and thus could focus on Surfer exclusively...

Here, he'd have the other six attacking him whenever he attempts to focus on one of them...and even with his great durability, Thanos wouldnt be able to ignore the efforts of 6 mid to high heralds at once (7 if the 7th herald could get in some shots while Thanos is attacking him)...

Yet he did well against Tyrant who used them all like mops... hmmm. This is why I have no doubt that Thanos was amped by the Orb.

Tyrant FTW. even depowered, he should be well above skyfather. Thanos alone is good enough to keep Odin busy (and of course, currently Thanos is undying 😐).

@Stoic

We are in full agreement that that Orb amped Thanos during his battle against DP Tyrant....

Team 1 ftw, and 😂 at Thanos being tossed around before Odin used his spear, he got moved a a few feet at best.

By a pimp slap.

Originally posted by Silent Master
By a pimp slap.
Some fail to see the point

Originally posted by Nihilist
Team 1 ftw, and 😂 at Thanos being tossed around before Odin used his spear, he got moved a a few feet at best.

There was still the clear indication that Odin was superior to Thanos with or without Gungnir.

A pimp salp backed up by energy.

Originally posted by Nihilist
A pimp salp backed up by energy.
All under his own power and again when Thanos grabed Gungir Odin tossed his purple butt across the asgard Thanos go not stand up to Odin with or with out gungir The gap between Odin is Thanos is a wide one.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
There was still the clear indication that Odin was superior to Thanos with or without Gungnir.
Did i say there wasnt a clear indictation that Odin wasnt more powerful ? no i didnt, so learn to read before you start crying over it. If people wanna lie and say he was getting tossed about before his used his spear, fine do that if it saves face for Odin.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
There was still the clear indication that Odin was superior to Thanos with or without Gungnir.

Not really.

Odin and Thanos seemed pretty even until Odin whipped out the Gungnir.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
All under his own power and again when Thanos grabed Gungir Odin tossed his purple butt across the asgard Thanos go not stand up to Odin with or with out gungir The gap between Odin is Thanos is a wide one.
Dont lie about what you said in the first place and then you wont get pulled up on it and look stupid. And so what if Odin used his own power, so did Thanos and again why do you still cry over the power gap no one thinks Thanos was Odin lvl anyway.

Originally posted by vince_slice
Not really.

Odin and Thanos seemed pretty even until Odin whipped out the Gungnir.


How is firing one blast and failing to do a thing and then subsequently getting pimp smacked and knocked off his axis any indication that Thanos was "even" with Odin?

Originally posted by Nihilist
Did i say there wasnt a clear indictation that Odin wasnt more powerful ? no i didnt, so learn to read before you start crying over it. If people wanna lie and say he was getting tossed about before his used his spear, fine do that if it saves face for Odin.

You should listen to your own advice and not try to read things in my post that weren't there.

I didn't say that he was "tossing Thanos around" before he broke out Gungnir, just that even before he got Gungnir the fight was already in Odin's favor. Gungnir was just brought in to expedite things.