Dp Tyrant & Thanos vs. Odin & Mangog

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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
@Nuul

Thanos stalemates Odin my ass; Odin was dominating him and Thanos was unable to do any harm to Odin whatsoever...

Odin was trying to kill him and couldn't even ko Tyhanos who wasn't trying to kill Odin. With current Thanos he solos the paid of them.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
LoL@Thanosi....

Thanos couldnt even bulge or even scratch Odin; Thanos even got [b]PIMP SLAPPED by Odin...but Thanos was laying some wood on Tyrant...that tells me all I need to know.

Thanos was Odins b***h...plain and simple.

Thanos didnt want to give up against Odin because his ego couldnt stand getting beat up like that; therefore Thanos was determined to fight on until he did "something" significant to Odin (which he completely FAILED to do)...

Against DP Tyrant, Thanos saw that he could harm him and make Tyrant feel his blows...so he was able to leave that fight with a clear mind.

Odin>>DP Tyrant

💃 [/B]

False.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Thanos got [b]PIMP SLAPPED by a superior opponent!!

💃 [/B]

Odin's words say otherwise.

^ come on brah, we all know odin is on a higher plane than thanos when it comes to fighting, which is a massive understatement.

brains, def thanos, but i'd be stupid to think thanos is anywhere near as potent as odin's full might.

this is coming from a fellow thanos fan

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Ok. If you want to exhaust this line of inquiry, let's run with it. Did Tyrant express interest in using Thanos as a specimen? Focusing on just how they both reacted to Thanos completely ignores how Odin was relatively unphased by Thanos' attacks while Tyrant was getting knocked around by Thanos' amped attacks...

... if you want to mince words/illustrations/circumstances.

Thanos was being amped to an unknown degree, he could have been amped to x10 by the orb, who can tell. Let's use The Herald scale, and be honest when answering. How well do you think that Thanos would do if he fought the combined forces of: Jack of Hearts, Ganymede, Terrax, Gladiator, Beta Ray Bill, Morg, and The Silver Surfer. Would they absolutely tear him apart? When considering that Morg alone could give him a fight.

he used the orb like starlord used the almost burnt out cosmic cube, imo there was no "amp" outside of having an object that could fire powerful beams (and pistol whip)

Originally posted by Stoic
Thanos was being amped to an unknown degree, he could have been amped to x10 by the orb, who can tell. Let's use The Herald scale, and be honest when answering. How well do you think that Thanos would do if he fought the combined forces of: Jack of Hearts, Ganymede, Terrax, Gladiator, Beta Ray Bill, Morg, and The Silver Surfer. Would they absolutely tear him apart? When considering that Morg alone could give him a fight.
Right. I understand you'd like to arbitrarily quantify the amp the Orb provided to make it seem like DP Tyrant was way over Odin.

Fact is, I don't see Odin doing any worse than DP Tyrant in any situation he was put in -- so long as you gave him B-E eating capabilities. Thanos is really irrelevant here. Much to your chagrin, I'm sure.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Right. I understand you'd like to arbitrarily quantify the amp the Orb provided to make it seem like DP Tyrant was way over Odin.

Fact is, I don't see Odin doing any worse than DP Tyrant in any situation he was put in -- so long as you gave him B-E eating capabilities. Thanos is really irrelevant here. Much to your chagrin, I'm sure.

Now that you mention it, I guess my motivations for the question had a lot to do with Tyrant vs Odin in power, but it also had to do with how well people thought Thanos would do against 7 mid to high Heralds. It even gives me an idea to launch a thread on the subject.

The thing is, if Thanos would be torn to pieces by the Heralds, it would show how much the Orb did amp his abilities, because they were easy prey to Tyrant, and Thanos gave him a fight. You however didn't answer the question.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he used the orb like starlord used the almost burnt out cosmic cube, imo there was no "amp" outside of having an object that could fire powerful beams (and pistol whip)

Therefore your mind is closed to the possibility that Thanos did not need an amp to go up against Tyrant, and even without it he would do just as well, against Tyrant under his own steam. Is this what you are saying? if that is what you are saying, why didn't Thanos just open a portal to his ship, and toss the orb through it? After all it would be just a trinket to him.

^ Tyrant fought Surfer, Gladiator, Beta Ray Bill, Morg, Terrax and Ganymede. Six in total.

Considering that Odin one-shotted PG Drax and Surfer in quick succession... the latter while Thanos was attacking him... I see Odin simply batting away another 4 mid-high heralds.

Especially if Odin had a bunch of high-powered automatons protecting him and running interference the entire time and 2 of those remaining mid-high heralds ended up fighting each other...

... which is what actually happened with Tyrant.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Tyrant fought Surfer, Gladiator, Beta Ray Bill, Morg, Terrax and Ganymede. Six in total.

Considering that Odin one-shotted PG Drax and Surfer in quick succession... the latter while Thanos was attacking him... I see Odin simply batting away another 4 mid-high heralds.

Especially if Odin had a bunch of high-powered automatons protecting him and running interference the entire time and 2 of those remaining mid-high heralds ended up fighting each other...

... which is what actually happened with Tyrant.

Jack of Hearts. You forgot about Jack. You also didn't answer the question, I never asked how well Odin would do against the Seven Heralds, I know that he would do well. My question was how well would Thanos do against the Heralds.

Originally posted by Stoic
Therefore your mind is closed to the possibility that Thanos did not need an amp to go up against Tyrant, and even without it he would do just as well, against Tyrant under his own steam. Is this what you are saying? if that is what you are saying, why didn't Thanos just open a portal to his ship, and toss the orb through it? After all it would be just a trinket to him.
cause he would lose an item that can fire powerful blasts, like i said earlier.

also, he wanted to use the thing against tyrant apparently

Originally posted by Stoic
Jack of Hearts. You forgot about Jack. You also didn't answer the question, I never asked how well Odin would do against the Seven Heralds, I know that he would do well. My question was how well would Thanos do against the Heralds.
Jack of Hearts wasn't really part of the simultaneous assult. In any case...

... the answer to your question is: worse than Tyrant and Odin would.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
cause he would lose an item that can fire powerful blasts, like i said earlier.

also, he wanted to use the thing against tyrant apparently

Even though his punches clearly rocked Tyrant when he hit him in the face with the same hand that held the Orb? Why would Tyrant have been after the Heralds in the first place if he wasn't siphoning power into the Orb? Tyrant wanted to completely destroy Galactus right? What was the purpose of leeching their power? The Orb was a power amplification device, that Tyrant was going to use to assist him in defeating Galactus, am I correct? What was Tyrant's story from the get go?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0

... the answer to your question is: worse than Tyrant and Odin would.

that's right, "and" and not "or"? 😏

Originally posted by Stoic
Even though his punches clearly rocked Tyrant when he hit him in the face with the same hand that held the Orb? Why would Tyrant have been after the Heralds in the first place if he wasn't siphoning power into the Orb? Tyrant wanted to completely destroy Galactus right? What was the purpose of leeching their power? The Orb was a power amplification device, that Tyrant was going to use to assist him in defeating Galactus, am I correct? What was tyrant's story from the get go?
if you're insinuating that the orb made thanos stronger just by holding it, that's debatable.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Jack of Hearts wasn't really part of the simultaneous assult. In any case...

... the answer to your question is: worse than Tyrant and Odin would.

Would the Heralds have beaten Thanos, or would Thanos have beaten them? Jack was in the entourage, therefore it was 7 Heralds on the scene, and not 6.

Originally posted by psycho gundam

if you're insinuating that the orb made thanos stronger just by holding it, that's debatable.

Then why didn't he drop the Orb when they had a test of strength? It was just used as a pistol whipping/energy blasting device from what your beliefs stem from. Is this a correct assessment?

people get their registered handguns stolen all the time, and sometimes they get shot trying to stop the robbers.

kidding aside, the meat of the matter is that thanos didn't want to be as strong as dp tyrant via amp as you seem to be insinuating, he wanted to steal what tyrant was going to use to make himself regain his full power's back. thanos sees that it packs a punch and promptly goes to his lair and studies it..the end

the tyrant fight was almost a pallet swap of his fight with odin, minus the orb ofcoarse 😉

Originally posted by Stoic
Even though his punches clearly rocked Tyrant when he hit him in the face with the same hand that held the Orb? Why would Tyrant have been after the Heralds in the first place if he wasn't siphoning power into the Orb? Tyrant wanted to completely destroy Galactus right? What was the purpose of leeching their power? The Orb was a power amplification device, that Tyrant was going to use to assist him in defeating Galactus, am I correct? What was Tyrant's story from the get go?
... I'm sure Thanos would have affected Odin more if Thanos used that Orb against him also. As it stands, Thanos didn't hurt Odin at all.

You keep begging questions and none of them seem to get to the heart of the issue here: there is nothing Tyrant did -- aside from being inherently able to absorb B-Es -- that Odin couldn't do. And in terms of overall feats... Odin has Tyrant beat.

What else needs to be said to rebut your position that Tyrant was beyond a skyfather like Odin?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
And in terms of overall feats... Odin has Tyrant beat.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
which is a massive understatement.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
people get their registered handguns stolen all the time, and sometimes they get shot trying to stop the robbers.

kidding aside, the meat of the matter is that thanos didn't want to be as strong as dp tyrant via amp as you seem to be insinuating, he wanted to steal what tyrant was going to use to make himself regain his full power's back. thanos sees that it packs a punch and promptly goes to his lair and studies it..the end

the tyrant fight was almost a pallet swap of his fight with odin, minus the orb ofcoarse 😉

Then Why didn't Thanos just open a portal and toss the dictionary ( this is what you believe that it was correct?) through it and onto his ship?

Yet Thanos' fight with Odin had another element in it that you failed to mention. No worries I'll remind you. Odin fought Thanos while being armed with Gugnir, while Thanos was unarmed. Was Gungnir Odin's dictionary as well? In retrospect, Thanos fought Tyrant with an Orb in his hand, while tyrant was unarmed. It is your belief that the Orb was a simple dictionary, or a pistol whipping/energy blaster correct? Wait how does that make sense if Thanos can use energy blasts without the Orb?

How do you somehow ignore Thanos rocking Tyrant with a punch, that had the Orb in the hand that hit Tyrant in the face, clearly stunning him? Why would Tyrant require the knowledge of Beta Ray Bill in order to defeat Galactus, or Ganymede, or Jack of Hearts? Or Gladiator? They would have nothing to do with Galactus. In fact tyrant knows galactus likely better than even the Silver Surfer, or any other Herald that Galactus had made.

You never answered the question about The Herald Scale. Who would win in a fight, the 7 Heralds or Thanos? Consider this when you answer, Morg did well against Thanos on his own, now throw in six others, and how well do you think he would do? It's ok if you don't want to answer. I have an idea how the battle would turn out.