Omega Red vs the Warrior Three

Started by Omega Vision28 pages

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And Colossus. Colossus in his organic steel form has infinite stamina, and requires no food, and no sleep... and Red has dropped him in seconds with his Deaths-pore. In order for the Warriors Three to not loss 10/10 they would need to have SIGNIFICANTLY better resilience to Red's spores than Wolverine or Colossus... which is absurd. Even attributing them with the same level of resistance Wolverine has is a massive stretch... and Red has taken Wolverine down instantly when he was serious.

So do you see this working on Doomsday, Darkseid, Thanos, Odin, Superboy Prime, those kinds of guys? kinda

Originally posted by Omega Vision
So do you see this working on Doomsday, Darkseid, Thanos, Odin, Superboy Prime, those kinds of guys? kinda
are any of those guys close to Colossus? HELL NO.

poor analogy btw

Originally posted by Starscream M
are any of those guys close to Colossus? HELL NO.

poor analogy btw

How?

If Colossus gets dropped in seconds, asking how the top of the top fare is perfectly legitimate. Where do we draw the line at Omega Red? At anyone who conventionally "lives"?

Originally posted by Starscream M
are any of those guys close to Colossus? HELL NO.

poor analogy btw


What do you mean by 'close'?

I'm trying to figure out how far his notion of OR's ability to drain life goes.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
How?

If Colossus gets dropped in seconds, asking how the top of the top fare is perfectly legitimate. Where do we draw the line at Omega Red? At anyone who conventionally "lives"?


List of things he can't life drain:

Robots
Disembodied Consciousnesses
Undead things
TBA
dur

i dont care what side you guys fall on. what i do care that it is kept civil, no sarcasm and especially have supportive evidence for an argument.

this excuse " they are gods" argument is irrelevant back it up with actual evidence or stay out of my threads, growing tired of this crap and the forum poster incapable of supporting their argument.

Originally posted by King Castle

this excuse " they are gods" argument is irrelevant back it up with actual evidence or stay out of my threads, growing tired of this crap and the forum poster incapable of supporting their argument.

these are not YOUR threads. anyone can post in them, you don't own them just because you created them.

Originally posted by King Castle
i dont care what side you guys fall on. what i do care that it is kept civil, no sarcasm and especially have supportive evidence for an argument.

this excuse " they are gods" argument is irrelevant back it up with actual evidence or stay out of my threads, growing tired of this crap and the forum poster incapable of supporting their argument.

The hell?

The whole "they are gods" argument is ENTIRELY relevant here, especially if we're talking about life force, and Asgardian life force > mortal life force. That's just how it is. Saying that Warriors Three beat Hulk because they are gods and he's just a gamma irradiated mortal is crap because them being gods have nothing to do with how they get smashed physically. But effecting their life force or soul or whatever that CLEARLY is stated NUMEROUS times to be greater than that of mortal lifeforce?

Yeah, it matters here.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
the warriors three take this for the majority, his death spores should not affect gods
why? i dont want an unsupported opinion. i want an actual legit reason backed up by evidence of some kind.

Originally posted by King Castle
i dont care what side you guys fall on. what i do care that it is kept civil, no sarcasm and especially have supportive evidence for an argument.

this excuse " they are gods" argument is irrelevant back it up with actual evidence or stay out of my threads, growing tired of this crap and the forum poster incapable of supporting their argument.


You know backseat modding is considered worse than sarcasm right, champ? 🙂

Originally posted by Omega Vision
What do you mean by 'close'?

well, I mean those guys you listed are quite a bit above colossus...I mean Doomsday...the guy wouldn't even acknowledge OR before stomping him to death

in all fairness though, when OR beat Colossus, I actually felt it was a bit PIS and OR was represented more powerful than he is. I don't think OR should be able to beat Colossus considering the nature of Colossus in his steel form.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And Asgardians enjoy extreme longevity from the Golden Apples, are immune to all Earthly disease and possess life forces which dwarf that of typical mortal, and that's just the average citizen, let alone the Warriors Three. You're the one who says it siphons life force, so you need to prove it effects for all intents and purposes an immortal god.

Logan and his rogues might be gods in the minds of the delusional, but he's not a god here.

Everything you've just said is doubly true for both Colossus and Wolverine... and Red has dropped them in seconds. Why would Asgardians be immune? The still sleep. They still eat. They still breath. They still suffer the negative effects of alcoholic. The don't suffer cellular decay from replicating cells that causes aging. Awesome......... but why does that make the resistance to Red's spores? There is not a shred of evidence that supports your claim, basically it boils down to you saying "I think gods should be immune for no reason!!!"

Asgardian's aren't gods, they are an race of extra-dimensional beings. They are only gods in the sense that they were worshiped by early humanity before the Celestial stepped in. They aren't even immortal, they need to eat the Golden Apples infrequently to refreash the effects and sustain their life span.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The hell?

The whole "they are gods" argument is ENTIRELY relevant here, especially if we're talking about life force, and Asgardian life force > mortal life force. That's just how it is. Saying that Warriors Three beat Hulk because they are gods and he's just a gamma irradiated mortal is crap because them being gods have nothing to do with how they get smashed physically. But effecting their life force or soul or whatever that CLEARLY is stated NUMEROUS times to be greater than that of mortal lifeforce?

Yeah, it matters here.

gods don't mean much in of themselves

case in point, Ares is a god. yet he is a pussy compared to logan.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
One of the warriors three could still use the Kagemane no Jutsu to control him and stop him from using his spores.
😂

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You know backseat modding is considered worse than sarcasm right, champ? 🙂
😆

Originally posted by Starscream M
well, I mean those guys you listed are quite a bit above colossus...I mean Doomsday...the guy wouldn't even acknowledge OR before stomping him to death

in all fairness though, when OR beat Colossus, I actually felt it was a bit PIS and OR was represented more powerful than he is. I don't think OR should be able to beat Colossus considering the nature of Colossus in his steel form.


I wasn't arguing that Colossus was on their level. But Srank suggested that to not get killed by OR you'd have to be significantly higher than Colossus. And I had a feeling he'd think guys like Superman and Thor would fall to OR if OR got his tentacles around them, so I upped the ante to see the extent of his no-limits fallacy.

^ I see. carry on then.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Everything you've just said is doubly true for both Colossus and Wolverine... and Red has dropped them in seconds. Why would Asgardians be immune? The still sleep. They still eat. They still breath. They still suffer the negative effects of alcoholic. The don't suffer cellular decay from replicating cells that causes aging. Awesome......... but why does that make the resistance to Red's spores? There is not a shred of evidence that supports your claim, basically it boils down to you saying "I think gods should be immune for no reason!!!"

Asgardian's aren't gods, they are an race of extra-dimensional beings. They are only gods in the sense that they were worshiped by early humanity before the Celestial stepped in. They aren't even immortal, they need to eat the Golden Apples infrequently to refreash the effects and sustain their life span.

Nice dodge. You still haven't proved or backed up your claim Red can drain immortal life energy which has been said to be > mortal life energy more times than I can count. You've basically just said: "Colossus and Logan dropped to them, so the Warriors Three must fall too, regardless of the differences between the two". You're making assumptions based on OR siphoning a life force which is not equal to the life force he would be attempting to drain here.

They're gods. It's been stated time and time again. They aren't immortal in the same vein like the Olympians, but they are gods. I can't see how this can even be disputed. facepalms

Originally posted by Omega Vision
So do you see this working on Doomsday, Darkseid, Thanos, Odin, Superboy Prime, those kinds of guys? kinda

I don't see why they wouldn't. Maybe Doomsday would evolve an immunity, but other that that if Red was allowed to make contact with his tentacles then his powers would probably work. Why wouldn't they? Omega Red is a energy vampire, he stills life force and amps himself up with it, the stronger his opponent the more powerful he becomes from draining them.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't see why they wouldn't. Maybe Doomsday would evolve an immunity, but other that that if Red was allowed to make contact with his tentacles then his powers would probably work. Why wouldn't they? Omega Red is a energy vampire, he stills life force and amps himself up with it, the stronger his opponent the more powerful he becomes from draining them.

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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I don't see why they wouldn't. Maybe Doomsday would evolve an immunity, but other that that if Red was allowed to make contact with his tentacles then his powers would probably work. Why wouldn't they? Omega Red is a energy vampire, he stills life force and amps himself up with it, the stronger his opponent the more powerful he becomes from draining them.
Here I disagree, these guys are way to high imo.

I was fine that the spores work on the warriors three but not Omegas list.