Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganThey were all looking at him except for one person. How you got that they were all not looking is beyond me. Although if he *did* do that before they turned around then that would be fast either way.
still disagree thats a speed blizt of anyone other then Mr. fantastic. They werent even looking at him, thats nothing more the sucker punching several inividuals who were in mid combat, while speed blizting just mr fantastic.also disagree with spiderman x-men crap vest. All he did was back hand wolverien which is far froma speed blizt, webb colossus eyes, rougue and NC, all of which is pis (nc can teleport out, colossus easily strong enough to ripp it off, and rouge is as well. not sure thats the best arguement. But meh not like carver arguements any better.
He still knocked them on their ass. Can he beat them all at the same time in a forum match? Nope, but he can blitz them and get the hell out.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
They were all looking at him except for one person. How you got that they were all not looking is beyond me. Although if he *did* do that before they turned around then that would be fast either way.He still knocked them on their ass. Can he beat them all at the same time in a forum match? Nope, but he can blitz them and get the hell out.
Knocking people on there ass does not equate to speed blizt.
No he can't blizt them all in a forum match, your vastly overrestimating spidermans speed and vastly underrating the x-men. NC, wolverine have both shown to easily keep up with spiderman, cyclopes has friggin reacted and tagged quick silber wiht his optic blasts, and rougue at the time could move as fast as mrs marvel who posses superhuman speed.
Originally posted by Parmaniac
I already posted it and explained that everyone except Blizzard was looking at him.
Think about what your argueing? so during a massice superhero brawl, group of lets say 7 super hero's were standing in a straight line looking at spiderman? are you kidding me? How can you logically tell me that makes senses?
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganThey were looking at him except for one.
Becuase they werent. you can even tell by position of there bodies. They were all fighting other people and he attack them all in mid combat while he was making his way towards mr. fantastic. In fact if what your trying to argue is true, that would mean they were all standing in a line faicng spiderman which is absurd during a super hero brawl. It fast but not as impressive as people try and pretend it is. Honestly I think I gunna have to go through all my civil war issues and scans them to put this myth to rest. Becuase I almopst 100% certain one of the tie ins shows the event from another angle and with out a doubt we can see that only mr fantastic was looking at him, the others were preoccupied.Knocking people on there ass does not equate to speed blizt.
No he can't blizt them all in a forum match, your vastly overrestimating spidermans speed and vastly underrating the x-men. NC, wolverine have both shown to easily keep up with spiderman, cyclopes has friggin reacted and tagged quick silber wiht his optic blasts, and rougue at the time could move as fast as mrs marvel who posses superhuman speed.
I said he can knock them on their ass not beat them. Don't twist my words around. He did it and he has done it several times to several teams. Superman can "keep up" with Flash to an extent too... I only see one side being blinded here. When a character has shown to do something constantly over and over it doesn't count.
But when Gorgon does something that isn't even a portrayal of his ability being discussed it counts? Man that sounds fair.
1. Bishop: He looks towards him and tries to shoot at him there is absolutely noone else he could have shot at. He's not turned away take a look at his feet.
2. Doc Samson: Looks into another direction AFTER he was kicked by Spider-man his whole upper body moved sideways, if you take a look at his legs you can see that he was looking into the same direction as Bishop.
3. Radioactive Man: Leans back his upper body after the kick by looking at his belly you can see that it's streched and of course that he was already firing at Spider-man with his radiation.
4. Blizzard: That's the only one who really isn't watching in his direction, by taking a look at his neck and shoulders you can see taht he had his back turned at Spidey.
5. Mr. Fantastic: Nothing to argue he was trying to catch Spider-man from the beginning with his hands and looking at him non stop.
6. Mr. Fantastic: I agree it truly is.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
They were looking at him except for one.I said he can knock them on their ass not beat them. Don't twist my words around. He did it and he has done it several times to several teams. Superman can "keep up" with Flash to an extent too... I only see one side being blinded here. When a character has shown to do something constantly over and over it doesn't count.
But when Gorgon does something that isn't even a portrayal of his ability being discussed it counts? Man that sounds fair.
never said you beat them, when did I say that? So has wolverine, but I bet you be the first to argue against him blizting spiderman and group of hero's. Wolverine has just as many him vs team battles as spiderman, you dont seem me trying to argue him blizting teams dispite the fact he done it. So really who the one blinded here?
I never said it counted. that carver and your debate, dont bring me into it.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganIt's comics, massive brawls always have to be taken with a grain of salt otherwise I could argue why someone like Sentry wasn't soloing the whole other team etc.. I don't have to scans of the whole battle at hand but I'm sure as hell I could show you lot's of "very unlikely" situations.
Think about what your argueing? so during a massice superhero brawl, group of lets say 7 super hero's were standing in a straight line looking at spiderman? are you kidding me? How can you logically tell me that makes senses?
Originally posted by Parmaniac1. Bishop: He looks towards him and tries to shoot at him there is absolutely noone else he could have shot at. He's not turned away take a look at his feet.
2. Doc Samson: Looks into another direction AFTER he was kicked by Spider-man his whole upper body moved sideways, if you take a look at his legs you can see that he was looking into the same direction as Bishop.
3. Radioactive Man: Leans back his upper body after the kick by looking at his belly you can see that it's streched and of course that he was already firing at Spider-man with his radiation.
4. Blizzard: That's the only one who really isn't watching in his direction, by taking a look at his neck and shoulders you can see taht he had his back turned at Spidey.
5. Mr. Fantastic: Nothing to argue he was trying to catch Spider-man from the beginning with his hands and looking at him non stop.
6. Mr. Fantastic: I agree it truly is.
no in fact if you look at his leg he was looking to his left and spiderman hit him.
again look at him he was looking to his right about to fire an attack and spiderman attacked him.
blizzard clearly was not looking at him.
agree.
again how cna you sit here and tell me that during a super hero brawl that 5 or 6 hero would be standing in a line looking at spiderman, it not even logical.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganThey got blitzed, Mr. Fantastic commented on it.
no they werent. you can even tell by the position of there bodies. doesent even make sense. You always talk about using logic in debates, why can't you see how illogical your arguement is. so group of 7 heros decided in a fight to stand in straight line staring at spiderman? how does that make any senses?never said you beat them, when did I say that? So has wolverine, but I bet you be the first to argue against him blizting spiderman and group of hero's. Wolverine has just as many him vs team battles as spiderman, you dont seem me trying to argue him blizting teams dispite the fact he done it. So really who the one blinded here?
I never said it counted. that carver and your debate, dont bring me into it.
Wolverine hasn't done as well against teams straight up as Spider-Man has, hell he even has foes that team up on him in groups as an official group. He's made for teams like Wolverine is made for bricks.
Wolverine would never blitz Spider-Man without a plot device much less him in a group. Spider-Sense wouldn't allow it anyways.
Carver is your best friend. 😛
Originally posted by Parmaniac
It's comics, massive brawls always have to be taken with a grain of salt otherwise I could argue why someone like Sentry wasn't soloing the whole other team etc.. I don't have to scans of the whole battle at hand but I'm sure as hell I could show you lot's of "very unlikely" situations.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
They got blitzed, Mr. Fantastic commented on it.Wolverine hasn't done as well against teams straight up as Spider-Man has, hell he even has foes that team up on him in groups as an official group. He's made for teams like Wolverine is made for bricks.
Wolverine would never blitz Spider-Man without a plot device much less him in a group. Spider-Sense wouldn't allow it anyways.
Carver is your best friend. 😛
yes he has, honestly just becuase we don't bring it up is not becuase he does not do well against them, it becuase unlike with spidy, if I bring up wolveirne doing it, we get a shit load of haters bashing it, also don't think single characters against teams is good evidences, becuase teams job hard. Actaully this year alone wolverine taken it to at least 3 teams.
Nor would spiderman blizt wolverine. nor would superhuman senses.
lol
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Sounds like Wolvie blinders, something we don't want to admit because it hurts the argument. I haven't really seen anyone else disagree and it's pretty obvious.
and the only other person in this thread is spiderman fanboy, so points ratehr irrelevent.
I simply think people tend to mis interupt context of events, and it happen with spiderman before. Remeber when that suposed spiderman blizting a super human feat was constantly posted few years back in almost every spiderman thread, and it turned out to be mentally unstable person pretending to be a superhero...........
I plan to go through my civil war and tie in issue to prove that it is most certainly spiderman blinder people have on rather then 6 hero decided to fight spiderman by lining up in a line........which honestly in it self is absurd. I also twitter (once I find out how it works) and ask the writer of the issue himself so we can put this myth to rest.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And damn this for becoming Wolverine vs Spider-Man. Again.
