Darth Sidious (Palpatine) vs Snape

Originally posted by Robtard
You're missing the point, Jedi/Sith are a lot faster than regular humans. <--- basic SW knowledge, that.

When it comes to moving around, apparating/half apparating>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Force speed. All day every day, 25/8, 366. AND Apparition is INSTANTANEOUS.

The spells that were cast in the vid>>>>>>Blaster bolt speed. Fact. Accept it.

Yeah, covered that. Force-precog fails when it's overwhelmed, eg many shots coming in at once. It doesn't fail from one opponent, let a lone a guy with normal human speeds.

Your kind of denying the very definition of precog.

its knowing whats going to happen before it happens, battle precog=glimpse of what the other person is about to do=glimpse of the future

grab a dictionary........
Foresight and precog are, in definition, pretty much the exact same thing..........

Explain that away and convince me that they are NOT, and ill concede it to you, but up til that point my figuring is that with his precog Sidious can kick some royal Snape %@#

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The reaction time argument is over. Snape is faster.

When it comes to moving around, apparating/half apparating>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Force speed. All day every day, 25/8, 366. AND Apparition is INSTANTANEOUS.

The spells that were cast in the vid>>>>>>Blaster bolt speed. Fact. Accept it.

Ahahahahahaa you REALLY wanna have this out with me? I'll embarrass you, dude. Up to you, call it.

Force-precognition, go look up what Qui-Gon Jinn said/explained. You can't get faster than attacking before the other guy, cos you know(sense) what he/she is going to do

Oh my, MVF eThreats now, lolz. Embarrass me, go. (If you're going to bring up Order 66, and/or arguments b4 the "on screen only" was relaxed, just don't, it will be lolz)

Originally posted by Robtard
Force-precognition, go look up what Qui-Gon Jinn said/explained. You can't get faster than attacking before the other guy, cos you know(sense) what he/she is going to do

Oh my, MVF eThreats now, lolz. Embarrass me, go. (If you're going to bring up Order 66, and/or arguments b4 the "on screen only" was relaxed, just don't, it will be lolz)

So a Jedi knows what Snape will do......This helps them......How? 3.....2....1.....GO.......Snape is gonna off to the races, dude. Sidious cannot attack before Snape does, this is essentially a quick draw. Apparition is instantaneous, force attacks are not. Get it?

Or Snape simply reacts faster and death spells Sidious. Yes, Snape's death spell would reach Sidious far in advance of any force attack reaching him. Why? Because, as shown in the vids I posted, Snape has faster reaction time. Also proven is that the spells in the vids travel far faster than any force attack. Stop posting your opinion, which is biased, and post proof, as I have.

Avada Kedavra and Reducto= On hit, instant death. Name a one hit instant death force attack that Sidious has......None.

And let's not forget, let's not forget, dude, that Snape can cast any power that a lesser death eater can. Think about it........BBQ.

The evidence in the vids I posted>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Your HP hate filled biased opinion.

Frankly, i dont hate HP, but i dont like it, its one of them things i dont care about........

But anyways, how fast does lightning move? Pretty fast
Look at ROTS, as soon as Mace drops his guards, BAM lightning all over him

Also, anything Snape has that attracts lightning, yeah, apparate wont help with that, itd be like wearing a heater witha heat seeking missile after you

Also, you didnt answer my question, whats the difference between seeing the future and knowing whats going to happen before it happens? nothing

speed doesnt always win anyways, that and they needed to cut down screen time, as you more than likely know, im betting it would actually have taken longer, as nothing could turn around and yell 2 sentences in less than a second...........

Originally posted by Pwned
Frankly, i dont hate HP, but i dont like it, its one of them things i dont care about........

But anyways, how fast does lightning move? Pretty fast
Look at ROTS, as soon as Mace drops his guards, BAM lightning all over him

Also, anything Snape has that attracts lightning, yeah, apparate wont help with that, itd be like wearing a heater with a heat seeking missile after you

Also, you didnt answer my question, whats the difference between seeing the future and knowing whats going to happen before it happens? nothing

speed doesnt always win anyways, that and they needed to cut down screen time, as you more than likely know, im betting it would actually have taken longer, as nothing could turn around and yell 2 sentences in less than a second...........

I agree on the speed thing, but it definitely helps.

Ah, well then the nonverbal thing would help

But we all know its just a general nature of lightning, if its attracted to it, theres no getting away from it, unless Snape constantly wears a condom and blocks it with his non existant manlyhood ;-)

But still, precog IS a glimpse of the future, either way, Sidious was diluting it

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is some messed up !^#%

Originally posted by Pwned
Your kind of denying the very definition of precog.

its knowing whats going to happen before it happens, battle precog=glimpse of what the other person is about to do=glimpse of the future

grab a dictionary........
Foresight and precog are, in definition, pretty much the exact same thing..........

Explain that away and convince me that they are NOT, and ill concede it to you, but up til that point my figuring is that with his precog Sidious can kick some royal Snape %@#

I'll explain it:

Battle-precog != Far-Seeing.

Two different forms of precognition.

Battle-precog is more of a precognitive reflex than it is "seeing glimpses of the future." Why? Because that's exactly what Qui Gon Gin calls it: "...reflexes..."

Far-seeing fits the more classical definition of what we know as "precognition": it is a vision of a potential future.

Yoda indicates for us what Sidious was doing: blocking the ability to Far-see for the most part, which is where we get our lines from Yoda, in the PT. He does this for the very reasons that RJ explained plus one additional HUGE reason: to keep them from catching a glimpse of Order 66.

In other words, Far-seeing is not battle precog as far as force powers go, but they are both a form of precognition. This is why we end up with Jedi that can block lots of blaster bolts, but not forsee the Great Jedi Purge.

Originally posted by Pwned

But we all know its just a general nature of lightning, if its attracted to it, theres no getting away from it, unless Snape constantly wears a condom and blocks it with his non existant manlyhood ;-)

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So a Jedi knows what Snape will do......This helps them......How? 3.....2....1.....GO.......Snape is gonna off to the races, dude. Sidious cannot attack before Snape does, this is essentially a quick draw. Apparition is instantaneous, force attacks are not. Get it?

Or Snape simply reacts faster and death spells Sidious. Yes, Snape's death spell would reach Sidious far in advance of any force attack reaching him. Why? Because, as shown in the vids I posted, Snape has faster reaction time. Also proven is that the spells in the vids travel far faster than any force attack. Stop posting your opinion, which is biased, and post proof, as I have.

Avada Kedavra and Reducto= On hit, instant death. Name a one hit instant death force attack that Sidious has......None.

And let's not forget, let's not forget, dude, that Snape can cast any power that a lesser death eater can. Think about it........BBQ.

The evidence in the vids I posted>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Your HP hate filled biased opinion.

Cos Palpatine's faster, cos of the Force, cos that's what it does, grants the user faster than normal reflexes and reaction-time, cos it's the Force and that's what it does.

Your fanboyism has the wizard turned into Nightcrawler, but instead of teleporting and attacking several times in under a second, he's porting and casting faggy spells with his little wand. Just isn't so though, wizard is human.

An empty threat, eh. Oh, got a cam-version of Hairy Bunghole and the Deathly Hollows.

Originally posted by Robtard
Cos Palpatine's faster, cos of the Force, cos that's what it does, grants the user faster than normal reflexes and reaction-time, cos it's the Force and that's what it does.

In the time it takes Sidious to cast a force attack, here's what happened in the vid I posted:

Harry cast a spell at Snape, Snape turned and blocked it, Snape returned a spell of his own, the spell hit Harry.

Snape is faster. Ignoring this won't make it go away.

Your fanboyism has the wizard turned into Nightcrawler, but instead of teleporting and attacking several times in under a second, he's porting and casting faggy spells with his little wand. Just isn't so though, wizard is human.

An empty threat, eh. Oh, got a cam-version of Hairy Bunghole and the Deathly Hollows.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I see, "Just cuz," eh?

In the time it takes Sidious to cast a force attack, here's what happened in the vid I posted:

Harry cast a spell at Snape, Snape turned and blocked it, Snape returned a spell of his own, the spell hit Harry.

Snape is faster. Ignoring this won't make it go away.

Your vagina is showing.

Cool.

WTF? Not "just cos", the Force grants abilities that directly enhance reflexes and reaction-time, I told you to go watch what Qui-Gon Jinn said as a source.

Palpatine's lighting is instantaneous and he has the greater reaction-time(The Force).

Cos the wizard's spell casting isn't at enhanced super-speeds, obviously, they're human after all.

Exaggerating Snape won't make it true.

"Showing your vagina" is when a [male] poster beings whinging/bitching. I'm clearly not doing either here so you incorrectly used that term, Mr. Ron Burgundy.

Originally posted by Robtard
WTF? Not "just cos", the Force grants abilities that directly enhance reflexes and reaction-time, I told you to go watch what Qui-Gon Jinn said as a source.

Palpatine's lighting is instantaneous and he has the greater reaction-time(The Force).

YouTube video

:33. Sidious casts force lightning at Yoda, it took a full second for him to shoot lighting and have it hit Yoda.

In the vid I posted, Harry cast a spell at Snape, Snape turned and blocked it, Snape returned a spell of his own, the spell hit Harry, all in under a second.

Twice as much happened in about the same time frame.

Add it up.

Snape casts magical spells faster and with better reaction time than any force user.

Cos the wizard's spell casting isn't at enhanced super-speeds, obviously, they're human after all.

Post a vid that proves me wrong, I dare you.

Exaggerating Snape won't make it true.

"Showing your vagina" is when a [male] poster beings whinging/bitching. I'm clearly not doing either here so you incorrectly used that term, Mr. Ron Burgundy.

Precog cant mean what you want it to, RJ.

And from what Ive read here and in other HP debate threads, Robtards exceedingly correct about your overly-optimistic appraisal of Human Wizard powers Vs Force users..

Palpapwnage here, make no mistake.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Stop talking.

Meh i havnt seen the movies in a bit, but i do know that before the clones shot, many jedi were shown turning around and blocking multiple shots before they were just swarmed

Then there are the ones who already knew what they were doing and had the skill to fight their way OUT of that mess, or just a long term evasion, and survived

To be killed later by Starkiller.........

Or Vader.......

Or hide in a hole like a pansy when they could stand in front of Sidious without him knowing they were Jedi, and do crap like that

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Precog cant mean what you want it to, RJ.

And from what Ive read here and in other HP debate threads, Robtards exceedingly correct about your overly-optimistic appraisal of Human Wizard powers Vs Force users..

Palpapwnage here, make no mistake.

DDM summed up battle precog quite nicely here:

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'll explain it:

Battle-precog != Far-Seeing.

Two different forms of precognition.

Battle-precog is more of a precognitive reflex than it is "seeing glimpses of the future." Why? Because that's exactly what Qui Gon Gin calls it: "...reflexes..."

Far-seeing fits the more classical definition of what we know as "precognition": it is a vision of a potential future.

Yoda indicates for us what Sidious was doing: blocking the ability to Far-see for the most part, which is where we get our lines from Yoda, in the PT. He does this for the very reasons that RJ explained plus one additional HUGE reason: to keep them from catching a glimpse of Order 66.

In other words, Far-seeing is not battle precog as far as force powers go, but they are both a form of precognition. This is why we end up with Jedi that can block lots of blaster bolts, but not forsee the Great Jedi Purge.

Overly optimistic appraisal.....Hmm.....Let's think about that.......I have proven that wizard apparition is instantaneous. I have proven that wizards can cast spells while being force choked. I have proven that wizards of Snape's caliber are faster casting spells than any force user is casting force attacks. What else is there? Wizards are faster, have far stronger powers, have MORE powers. See, when someone is faster, stronger, and has more powers, they usually win.

Precog.....K.......Where was Yoda's precog when Sidious blasted him into the wall? Where was Sidious's precog when Yoda returned the favor by force pushing him over his desk? Where was Obi Wan's precog when Dooku force held then threw him across the room? Where was Vader's precog when Solo blitzed his ass at Yavin? Where was Palpatine's precog when Vader rose up and killed him? Shall I go on?

Now, here are the attacks Sidious has at his disposal,and the ways Snape counters them:

1. Force choke:

A: Snape can speak in force choke. He death
spells him.
B: Snape can cast non verbal spells.
C: Snape can apparate away.
D: Snape is faster casting magic spells, so he won't
even need A. B or C.

2: Force push/pull:

A: Snape apparates out of it.
B: Snape is faster casting magic spells, he won't
need A.

3: Force lightning:

A: Snape is faster casting magic spells, He casts
avada kedavra before the force lightning
reaches him.

4: Sidious using his lightsaber:

A: Don't make me laugh. Apparition. Death spell.

Have I forgotten anything? Yeah, thought not.

"Overly optimistic approval" my ass. Everything I have claimed I can back up with movie footage, babe. It's all fact. Wizards are just better, accept it.

Originally posted by Pwned
I was joking =-p

Meh i havnt seen the movies in a bit, but i do know that before the clones shot, many jedi were shown turning around and blocking multiple shots before they were just swarmed

Then there are the ones who already knew what they were doing and had the skill to fight their way OUT of that mess, or just a long term evasion, and survived

To be killed later by Starkiller.........

Or Vader.......

Or hide in a hole like a pansy when they could stand in front of Sidious without him knowing they were Jedi, and do crap like that

I figured, that's why I said stop talking.

Only about half the Jedi realized the attack. Adi Gallia, Ayala Secura and Plo Koon didn't know. Precog is faulty.

Starkiller? Yeah, he'd wtf pwn Snape. And anyone else in the HP universe.

Guys, just ignore him. Eventually he'll get bored with posting all this shit.

Though I find it odd that you'd think Starkiller would pwn Snape considering the spanking Palps gave him.

Honestly

And you have to consider that if Palps taught Vader, then what Vader can do Palps can do, right? Do inferences count at all, considering weve never seen Palps do a Force Crush, but its kind of obvious he can? I mean, its using TK to crush something ffs..........

Originally posted by Nephthys
Guys, just ignore him. Eventually he'll get bored with posting all this shit.

Though I find it odd that you'd think Starkiller would pwn Snape considering the spanking Palps gave him.

Translation: "Guys, RJ is spanking your bottoms blue, you should bow out."

Dunno much about Starkiller, I'm just remembering him bringing down a star destroyer.