Ares vs. Wolverine

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oeming should write ares permanently

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Can't wait for the Oeming one shot coming out next month.

An Oeming writen Ares ongoing would be awesome.

So ares is back alive?

Originally posted by carver9
So ares is back alive?
no he is still dead, pluto let everyone out the underworld to fight mikaboshi's forces

Nah his dead.

Was Ares being amped by Mikaboshi? As far as I can tell the only possible upgrade is the "no death" thing. So many people were focusing on Zeus that they forgot about the fact that Ares was holding his own against the newly empowered Hercules -who was holding back albeit- and survived an eye beam attack from Galactus.

Ares has been upgraded to the higher end Class 100 tier in my opinion physically.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Ares was holding his own against the newly empowered Hercules -who was holding back albeit- and survived an eye beam attack from Galactus.

only because death literally fled earth, making everyone pretty much immortal, that and the fact that ares is already dead

Their being no death doesn't amp one's durability as we saw by the people being torn up. It just means their souls won't pass on when they suffer injuries that would normally kill them.

Ares didn't have his skin flayed off his body or anything. He tanked the attack albeit hurt (Further proving the no invulnerability thing) and then got up with no visible damage.

And as far as I saw, their being no death doesn't give them a healing factor.

You could be right off course but I'm not seeing it at the moment. Does anyone know Pak's stance on it?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
As far as I can tell the only possible upgrade is the "no death" thing.
that's a pretty big upgrade

True, and I wouldn't even bring it up if Ares was torn apart and shit, but he wasn't as far as I saw.

I don't understand why this wouldn't be something attributed mostly to Ares' durability. No Death =/= Automatic Durability Increase

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Their being no death doesn't amp one's durability as we saw by the people being torn up. It just means their souls won't pass on when they suffer injuries that would normally kill them.

Ares didn't have his skin flayed off his body or anything. He tanked the attack albeit hurt (Further proving the no invulnerability thing) and then got up with no visible damage.

And as far as I saw, their being no death doesn't give them a healing factor.

You could be right off course but I'm not seeing it at the moment. Does anyone know Pak's stance on it?

i dont think galactus actually blasted them directly, he was surprised zeus survived, galactus said nothing about ares

i think zeus took almost all of that blast and they just tanked the little bit of it that got to them

He caught at least the back lash of the blast aimed at Zeus if not a separate attack.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
True, and I wouldn't even bring it up if Ares was torn apart and shit, but he wasn't as far as I saw.

I don't understand why this wouldn't be something attributed mostly to Ares' durability. No Death =/= Automatic Durability Increase

honestly, I don't see how you can extrapolate a dead being's attributes to their live attributes

a dead being is very different I would assume from a living being

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He caught at least the back lash of the blast aimed at Zeus if not a separate attack.
most likely back lash, he said nothing of ares still standing, if he did blast them he would be more surprised that ares survived more than anything

by the way isnt thanos invincible now because he cant die? thats the same thing we are talking about here

You don't understand. Ares didn't end up being a skeleton who comes back. That wouldn't be worth mentioning. He didn't seem to suffer any visible damage at all. That's something I attribute to his natural durability and not the "no death" clause. If he was blown apart and then reformed, I wouldn't mention this as a feat for Ares for example.

Originally posted by Starscream M
honestly, I don't see how you can extrapolate a dead being's attributes to their live attributes

a dead being is very different I would assume from a living being

I don't see why you can't in this situation. They aren't zombies.

They simply lack death. Olympians as far as I've seen are flesh and blood even when dead. At least under this writer.

There's a reason why Pak came out and told people to give credit where credit is due when it comes to Zeus. And he was the one who had Mikaboshi's horde in him.

If I saw this Ares lift up a Skyscraper, you best believe I'd use it as a feat for him unless it was attributed to him being dead or something.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't see why you can't in this situation. They aren't zombies.

They simply lack death. Olympians as far as I've seen are flesh and blood even when dead. At least under this writer.

There's a reason why Pak came about and told people to give credit where credit is due when it comes to Zeus. And he was the one who had Mikaboshi's horde in him.

If I saw this Ares lift up a Skyscraper, you best believe I'd use it as a feat for him unless it was attributed to him being dead or something.

read my thanos comment

I did. I edited in a response.

You read my comment.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

If I saw this Ares lift up a Skyscraper, you best believe I'd use it as a feat for him unless it was attributed to him being dead or something.

zeus shrugged off something that he normally wouldnt have...how is that not a major amp?

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You don't understand. Ares didn't end up being a skeleton who comes back. That wouldn't be worth mentioning. He didn't seem to suffer any visible damage at all. That's something I attribute to his natural durability and not the "no death" clause. If he was blown apart and then reformed, I wouldn't mention this as a feat for Ares for example.

I don't see why you can't in this situation. They aren't zombies.

They simply lack death. Olympians as far as I've seen are flesh and blood even when dead. At least under this writer.

There's a reason why Pak came out and told people to give credit where credit is due when it comes to Zeus. And he was the one who had Mikaboshi's horde in him.

If I saw this Ares lift up a Skyscraper, you best believe I'd use it as a feat for him unless it was attributed to him being dead or something.

I agree with this.

Originally posted by jinzin
He did better. He managed to actually dodge/parry/avoid one of Sentry's attacks... and he was nowhere near 100% by the way.

In terms of speed and reflexes it's a much better feat for Wolverine when you use Sentry as a bar... but then again I don't think Sentry utilizes his abilities like he could or should.. which is exactly why I wouldn't put any credance in Ares doing the same.. if he did... but then again, he didn't.

He spun around in a circle and got his claws grabbed? Or he got spun around in a circle by Sentry?

Originally posted by Starscream M
zeus shrugged off something that he normally wouldnt have...how is that not a major amp?

Zeus shrugging off a blast, something he wouldn't normally wouldn't do isn't a major amp. At least not after Pak came out and clarified that Zeus was only slightly stronger than an average Skyfather. Nothing major about it. Just saying.

However that's irrelevant as Zeus' increase in power was attributed to Mikaboshi.

If Mikaboshi was amping Ares as well, then the feat obviously isn't as impressive. If he wasn't, then it's fair game.