Mr Majestic vs Thor

Started by cdtm8 pages
Originally posted by akhenaten
alright so if you dont want to answer him because he is avoiding your questions then answer me please, who didmajestic beat that can be considered on thor level?

Helspont.

Plus, he basically toyed with Eradicator, and he's usually given Supes decent fights, not to mention what he did to Cyborg Superman.

With the creation blades, he briefly no sold TAO w/God Powers. TAO at the time was clearly above the cream of the crop.

Than you have him embarrassing Kyle. Asking for his ring back.

Originally posted by cdtm
Helspont.

Plus, he basically toyed with Eradicator, and he's usually given Supes decent fights, not to mention what he did to Cyborg Superman.

you could tell that to someone who didnt read majestic, problem is i did read so... he NEVER defeated helspont they never had a real serious fight just a trade couple hits and try to choke each other thats a joke fight

majestic never toyed with eradicator, in one fight eradicator dominated majestic until majestic defeated him with his heat vision, the other fight they had eradicator landed 2 solid shots on majestic and then majestic punch and bfr him momently and then they dont show what happened between them, if anything eradicator did much more impressive than majestic in all there fights

gives superman a fight? superman 1 shotted him

and what did he do to cyborg superman? when did they fight?

Originally posted by "Id"
With the creation blades, he briefly no sold TAO w/God Powers. TAO at the time was clearly above the cream of the crop.

Than you have him embarrassing Kyle. Asking for his ring back.

i know about his blade feats thats why i gave him the win over thor with the blades, however without them? thats a different story

Lol he just stole the ring from kyle so what kind of feat is it? is he going to steal mjolnir from thor? 😆

Originally posted by akhenaten
you could tell that to someone who didnt read majestic, problem is i did read so... he NEVER defeated helspont they never had a real serious fight just a trade couple hits and try to choke each other thats a joke fight

Maj has feats outside of his series. Wildcats, mostly.

Originally posted by cdtm
Maj has feats outside of his series. Wildcats, mostly.

it doesnt change the answers i gave on those feats

It does when you're referencing his fight in Maj's solo series, when he and Helspont have fought before in Wildcats.

Originally posted by akhenaten
i know about his blade feats thats why i gave him the win over thor with the blades, however without them? thats a different story

Lol he just stole the ring from kyle so what kind of feat is it? is he going to steal mjolnir from thor? 😆

Well you have to factor in that this topic asks a what if Majestic w/blades vs Thor. Naturally the fight against TAO should be brought up. I just didn't know if your specifically asking for just unarmed combat.

Its the same with Kyle. Its not to promote, hey will snatch Thor's mallet the way he took Kyle ring. But an off panel encounter with Kyle, ended with Majestros doing just that against an elite Lantern who many consider to be among Thor/Silver Surfers class.

would love to see those then , not as a questioning you but simply would love to see those , scans or issue number at least?

It happened in the Team 1 run..

I'll try and dig them up, it's been awhile. ^_^

It's interesting how much they changed from that era to Majestics comic. Especially Helspont.

Originally posted by cdtm
It happened in the Team 1 run..

I'll try and dig them up, it's been awhile. ^_^

thanks man 🙂

Originally posted by "Id"
Well you have to factor in that this topic asks a what if Majestic w/blades vs Thor. Naturally the fight against TAO should be brought up. I just didn't know if your specifically asking for just unarmed combat.

Its the same with Kyle. Its not to promote, hey will snatch Thor's mallet the way he took Kyle ring. But an off panel encounter with Kyle, ended with Majestros doing just that against an elite Lantern who many consider to be among Thor/Silver Surfers class.

True.

Kyle also wasn't working with a ring computer, though. Guy lost his yellow ring because of that limit, against a character he'd walk all over today.

Originally posted by "Id"
Well you have to factor in that this topic asks a what if Majestic w/blades vs Thor. Naturally the fight against TAO should be brought up. I just didn't know if your specifically asking for just unarmed combat.

Its the same with Kyle. Its not to promote, hey will snatch Thor's mallet the way he took Kyle ring. But an off panel encounter with Kyle, ended with Majestros doing just that against an elite Lantern who many consider to be among Thor/Silver Surfers class.

this topic gives us 3 different fights and the blades is only in 1 of the 3 so thereare 2 more fights to discuss

i dont recal green lantern and majestic fighting all happened is majestic stole his ring , unless i am wrong then i would love to know when did they fight

They never fought, at least on panel.

When Maj and Supes are having their talk in a diner, Supes kindly asks Maj to give back Kyles ring, but we don't know the details of how Maj took it.

Originally posted by cdtm
They never fought, at least on panel.

When Maj and Supes are having their talk in a diner, Supes kindly asks Maj to give back Kyles ring, but we don't know the details of how Maj took it.

it sure was never stated they fought, and if they did fight and the ring was taken by force then green lantern would have know majestic has it, which leads us to the conclusion it was stolen

Originally posted by cdtm
Helspont.

Plus, he basically toyed with Eradicator, and he's usually given Supes decent fights, not to mention what he did to Cyborg Superman.

When did he beat Hellspont? Every fight between the two that I've seen has resulted in a stalemate.

He didn't "toy" with Eradicator. Majestros was able to beat him swiftly by reprogramming him but that doesn't mean anything against Thor, their physical encounters do. Pretty sure he did just that with Majestic.

Originally posted by "Id"
With the creation blades, he briefly no sold TAO w/God Powers. TAO at the time was clearly above the cream of the crop.

Than you have him embarrassing Kyle. Asking for his ring back.

Issue number or scans? If it did happen it must have been half way through World's End or what have you.

When making statements like that, it's very misleading for people who haven't read the scene. We have no idea what the situation was and how he took his ring. He could have swiped it when Kyle wasn't paying attention.

If we want to compare combat feats, Thor absolutely shits on Majestic, at least if I were to describe events that vaguely.

Ex: Thor absolutely wrecked the Infinity Watch along with Dr. Strange and the Silver Surfer. And then he at least stalemated Thanos in combat.

Context ftw.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Issue number or scans? If it did happen it must have been half way through World's End or what have you.
I believe he's referring to the events of WildCATS v5 #16. Majestic used dual creation blades to flay and completely incapacitate TAO. Granted, TAO had not yet gained the full Creation Equation from Max Faraday--however, he was still drastically amped, and powerful enough that he was easily owning both Spartan and Max simultaneously (which is insanely impressive.) In fact, the only way TAO overcame the blades was by having Max willingly remove them from his body.

Full scene:
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2946/wc16008009.jpg
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http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/7254/wc16014.jpg
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8586/wc16017.jpg
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1046/wc16018.jpg
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5535/wc16019.jpg
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/5769/wc16020.jpg
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Thanks for the scans.

The creation blades were capable of disrupting the creation energy empowering Tao (Was it this effective specifically because of Tao's power set?) which is impressive but he had the advantage of surprise based on those scans and at no point did he no sell Tao.

Still impressive no doubt. I'm downloading the World's End era right now so I'll be able to catch up on any Majestic showings from that period.

^ Yeah, I don't think anyone said Majestic didn't have the element of surprise on his side--he absolutely did. However, that doesn't diminish the feat where the swords are concerned. Oh and I'm curiouso: what's your definition of "no-sell"? Because imo, rendering a character completely incapacitated with a few swift blows could qualify as "no-selling" that character... /shrug

Either way, I don't think anyone (even you) is arguing that Thor could shrug off a direct attack with said blades. I think we're all in agreement that if said attack were successful, Thor would be flayed just like everyone else.

Good man 👆. WildCATS was such a fun read.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Yeah, I don't think anyone said Majestic didn't have the element of surprise on his side..? Also, what's your definition of "no-sell"? Because imo, rendering a character completely incapacitated with a few swift blows could qualify as "no-selling" that character..

Either way, I don't think anyone (even you) is arguing that Thor could shrug off a direct attack with said blades. I think we're all in agreement that if said attack were successful, Thor would be flayed just like everyone else.

Good man 👆. WildCATS was such a fun read.

When I think of no selling someone, I picture the Thor/Iron Man battle during JMS' run. Majestic punked him no doubt but I wouldn't call it no selling a character, particularly because he had advantage on his side. If Tao attacked Majestic to absolutely no effect before he charged him, then the definition would fit. At least as I understand it.

There's no doubt that the blades would be able to cut Thor. I never said otherwise.

Hopefully. I kind of gave up on Wildstorm right before that era.