Originally posted by carver9Except that he has beaten Hulk in the same crossover and Juggs too.
I loved that comic. Why would dc put superman against hulk if they don't even think supes could beat venom or jean grey... it doesn't make sense. Dc didn't do superman any justice during that crossover.
I repeat my real nominee: X-Ray (U-Foes)
Originally posted by Parmaniac
Except that he has beaten Hulk in the same crossover and Juggs too.I repeat my real nominee: X-Ray (U-Foes)
That's kind of different though. The hulk fight was voted on whereas the other fights was dc ande marvel opinion of the outcome.
Supes and juggernaut fight never came to a decision... the only thing they showed was supes hitting juggernaut with a sneak attack.
Originally posted by carver9
That makes it even worse. I know that it was a company wide decision and it was a decision that both company's agreed upon.
but it isn't. it's not a "company wide" decision. none of those crossovers are. a writer is bacially told (by his boss) "make superman fight venom. don't f*ck it up".
it's nothing even close to what you're saying it is.
Originally posted by -Pr-
but it isn't. it's not a "company wide" decision. none of those crossovers are. a writer is bacially told (by his boss) "make superman fight venom. don't f*ck it up".it's nothing even close to what you're saying it is.
Huh?
You think one person had something to do with the outcome of that battle? That's like me saying one person had something to do with the thor and supes fight when all in all, it was voted on by numerous members and they came to a decision that supes would win in a fight against thor.
One person never have the say so of a crossover fight, especially a high ranked character like superman.
Now, I agree, supes should have owned venom.
Originally posted by carver9
Huh?You think one person had something to do with the outcome of that battle? That's like me saying one person had something to do with the thor and supes fight when all in all, it was voted on by numerous members and they came to a decision that supes would win in a fight against thor.
One person never have the say so of a crossover fight, especially a high ranked character like superman.
Now, I agree, supes should have owned venom.
not what i said.
the writer is told "have character x fight character y. character x wins."
thats basically it. if the writer is given the job, then they're obviously trusted enough to do a decent job, even if they go and straight f*ck it up, they were supposed to do it right in the first place.
it isn't a company wide decision. far from it. that's why writers within the same companies all have their own opinions of characters.
Originally posted by -Pr-
not what i said.the writer is told "have character x fight character y. character x wins."
thats basically it. if the writer is given the job, then they're obviously trusted enough to do a decent job, even if they go and straight f*ck it up, they were supposed to do it right in the first place.
it isn't a company wide decision. far from it. that's why writers within the same companies all have their own opinions of characters.
Do you think the person that wrote the story was familiar with both venom and supes?
Are you also disputing the superman and jean grey fight?
Originally posted by carver9Yea well he wouldn't beat Spider-Man, maybe Supes, but Spider-Man is pushing it.
SERIOUS PRoBLEMS.Venom took on both supes and spidey at the same time.
Damn.
Originally posted by -Pr-True. I used to hate that, "Well Marvel thinks..." argument.
not what i said.the writer is told "have character x fight character y. character x wins."
thats basically it. if the writer is given the job, then they're obviously trusted enough to do a decent job, even if they go and straight f*ck it up, they were supposed to do it right in the first place.
it isn't a company wide decision. far from it. that's why writers within the same companies all have their own opinions of characters.
Spider-Man still has his number though. uhuh
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yea well he wouldn't beat Spider-Man, maybe Supes, but Spider-Man is pushing it. True. I used to hate that, "Well Marvel thinks..." argument.Spider-Man still has his number though. uhuh
Lol... I agree, spidey latest showings against venom makes me believe that he can't beat spidey.
I also hate the marvel thinks arguments as well BUT these types of fights are kind of different since they are crossover and they are the closest and only thing that we have to reference out how a fight would go between two characters (even though its none canon).