Least obvious Marvel character capable of killing Superman

Started by carver97 pages

Example... surfer and galactus invading dc... everything that happened in that comic, I can see it happening foreal. Surfer punking orion and ripping through apokalypse, darkseid one shotting surfer, and darkseid attacks doing next to nothing to galactus (wasn't that precrisis darkseid?)

magneto

namor submerged

Superman STOMPS namor after a long fight.

Magneto is a good one, but is it really a stomp if it takes a very long time to beat someone? (In regards to Namor.)

Also Marvel vs. DC is still writer based (and fan based). I just meant in general when people treat fights as the absolute truth instead of a story meant to entertain the masses (the majority of it not being guys like us).

Originally posted by carver9
Do you think the person that wrote the story was familiar with both venom and supes?

Are you also disputing the superman and jean grey fight?

obviously not.

lol, of course i am. the x-men aren't in the class of the jla in the slightest.

Originally posted by carver9
Superman STOMPS namor after a long fight.

do you count 30 seconds as being "long"?

In a fight yea. Especially against someone who can fight FTL.

Aunt May's Purse.

No holder.

Originally posted by -Pr-
obviously not.

lol, of course i am. the x-men aren't in the class of the jla in the slightest.

do you count 30 seconds as being "long"?

I just think writers have different perceptions of each character (because most of us see things from fans point of view aka favorite character).

Example, the xmen... some writers see the xmen as one of the most powerful team that has ever existed.

Another example... wolverine, numerous of writers consider him one of the most dangerous beings on the planet. Look at the time when rulk was fighting the heroins... they put wolverine on dooms and magneto level. Read what thor say about wolvy during their scuffle, or how about the infinite gauntlet, wolvy against was marked as one of the most deadly and should have been the last man standing during the thanos battle. Hell, everyone relied on him to finish the battle and they had people like thor and hulk there. I can go on for days about this.

On kmc... wolverine wouldn't last a second in a fight against the people that I just named but comics say other wise because writers see these characters in a different tier than what us fans do. We base things off of high showings ignoring the norm. Like me, in a fight on kmc, I would give glads a 9/10 against someone like masterson but masterson was a challenge to gladiator.

On kmc people give superman a high majority against wondy but comics states otherwise.

What we think about characters, writers thinks completely different of them.

By the way, you have to completely ignore everything about namor to say that supes could beat him in 30 seconds.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
In a fight yea. Especially against someone who can fight FTL.

Every character in comics can fight faster than light on kmc.

You haven't heard about this?

Originally posted by carver9
Every character in comics can fight faster than light on kmc.

You haven't heard about this?

Thor,superman,surfer,sentry,WW....sounds only like high heralds to me.

Originally posted by carver9

Example, the xmen... some writers see the xmen as one of the most powerful team that has ever existed.


Who said that?


Another example... wolverine, numerous of writers consider him one of the most dangerous beings on the planet. Look at the time when rulk was fighting the heroins... they put wolverine on dooms and magneto level. Read what thor say about wolvy during their scuffle, or how about the infinite gauntlet, wolvy against was marked as one of the most deadly and should have been the last man standing during the thanos battle. Hell, everyone relied on him to finish the battle and they had people like thor and hulk there. I can go on for days about this.

No sane writer would put Wolverine in the same threat class as Hulk or Thor.


On kmc people give wondy a high majority against supes but comics states otherwise.

Who are you referring to exactly? I don't think even Diana's most hardcore fans give her the majority over Superman with her standard gear (full gear is another story)

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Thor,superman,surfer,sentry,WW....sounds only like high heralds to me.

Stardust, firelord, captain marvel, black adam, wonder woman, hell, even quick silver, thanos has ftl reflexes, supergirl, powergirl, darkseid have ftl reflexes (from what I hear), beta ray bill, gladiator, nova prime, I have even heard people say magneto has ftl feats, and the list goes on.

Light speed is childs play.

Originally posted by carver9
Stardust, firelord, captain marvel, black adam, wonder woman, hell, even quick silver, thanos has ftl reflexes, supergirl, powergirl, darkseid have ftl reflexes (from what I hear), beta ray bill, gladiator, nova prime, I have even heard people say magneto has ftl feats, and the list goes on.

Light speed is childs play.

Theres mabye 2 people of there not high herald.

So besides quicksilver whos only power is speed pretty much only high heralds and very very few mid heralds.

Originally posted by carver9
Example... surfer and galactus invading dc... everything that happened in that comic, I can see it happening foreal. Surfer punking orion and ripping through apokalypse, darkseid one shotting surfer, and darkseid attacks doing next to nothing to galactus (wasn't that precrisis darkseid?)

No. It was in the early nineties.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Who said that?

No sane writer would put Wolverine in the same threat class as Hulk or Thor.

Who are you referring to exactly? I don't think even Diana's most hardcore fans give her the majority over Superman with her standard gear (full gear is another story)

I edited my post about the wondy and superman fight... she could pull some wins and she could possibly make it 4/10.

Well, read the infinite gauntlet... wolverine was the key factor in thanos destruction. Read what doctor strange tells wolvey on the roof and wolvy in a comic IS a threat to both hulk AND thor.

As for the xmen comment, it has been said numerous of times.

Originally posted by carver9
I edited my post about the wondy and superman fight... she could pull some wins and she could possibly make it 4/10.

Well, read the infinite gauntlet... wolverine was the key factor in thanos destruction. Read what doctor strange tells wolvey on the roof and wolvy in a comic IS a threat to both hulk AND thor.

As for the xmen comment, it has been said numerous of times.

True.

Wolverine had absoluely no factor in it.Wolverine is never a threat to thanos.Especially in IG.

Originally posted by carver9
I edited my post about the wondy and superman fight... she could pull some wins and she could possibly make it 4/10.

Well, read the infinite gauntlet... wolverine was the key factor in thanos destruction. Read what doctor strange tells wolvey on the roof and wolvy in a comic IS a threat to both hulk AND thor.

As for the xmen comment, it has been said numerous of times.


My recollection of Infinity Gauntlet was Thanos's downfall was his own choice to let the gauntlet go, after which time Nebula took it.

You sure you aren't referring to a What If?

Well it was never true, and I'd question the reasoning of whatever writer stated as such.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Theres mabye 2 people of there not high herald.

So besides quicksilver whos only power is speed pretty much only high heralds and very very few mid heralds.

Let me continue...

Lol... I'm willing to bet that if flash fought everone that we named at the speed of light, none of them would be able to keep up with him, let alone tag him and yes, this goes for gladiator also even though he has flown 100 times the speed of light.

Light speed is a big deal in comics and people/fans pick up anything from a comiic and throw it off as a light speed showing. That's why people tend to debate that thor could tag the flash when all in all, flash would walk all over thor with his "light speed" combat.

Nimrod; after he scans him for weakness, he comes up with a lethal solution for dealing with his target...its lights out after that.