Least obvious Marvel character capable of killing Superman

Started by illadelph127 pages

I'd say least obvious, as in being obscure and possibly powerful enough to pull it off, is probably Mikhail Rasputin. He's a relatively unknown character but was very powerful with exotic energy powers and iirc, matter manipulation as well. His powers weren't very well defined though.

Originally posted by carver9
Let me continue...

Lol... I'm willing to bet that if flash fought everone that we named at the speed of light, none of them would be able to keep up with him, let alone tag him and yes, this goes for gladiator also even though he has flown 100 times the speed of light.

Light speed is a big deal in comics and people/fans pick up anything from a comiic and throw it off as a light speed showing. That's why people tend to debate that thor could tag the flash when all in all, flash would walk all over thor with his "light speed" combat.

Because flash has shown to be able to go trillions of times the speed of light.

And speed is his only power.People who have speed as their only power tend to be faster.

I say he can.Flash could blitz thor.But it doesn't change the fact that thor has FTL reflexes.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
My recollection of Infinity Gauntlet was Thanos's downfall was his own choice to let the gauntlet go, after which time Nebula took it.

You sure you aren't referring to a What If?

Well it was never true, and I'd question the reasoning of whatever writer stated as such.

I know wolverine wasn't a threat but again, before the fight began, he wasw the key factor in killing thanos.

I know its not true but again, writers see characters in a different perception than we do.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Because flash has shown to be able to go trillions of times the speed of light.

And speed is his only power.People who have speed as their only power tend to be faster.

I say he can.Flash could blitz thor.But it doesn't change the fact that thor has FTL reflexes.

The feat that you are using as a trillion of times light speed... the writer stated that flash was going under the speed of light. That's a kmc caculation.

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I completely disagree with your comment about thor tagging flash and I have a question... if thor is faster than light and wolverine was too fast for him in their fight, what does that make wolvey speed?

Also, what feats are you using that clarify thor as a light speedster?

Originally posted by carver9
The feat that you are using as a trillion of times light speed... the writer stated that flash was going under the speed of light. That's a kmc caculation.

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I completely disagree with your comment about thor tagging flash and I have a question... if thor is faster than light and wolverine was too fast for him in their fight, what does that make wolvey speed?

Also, what feats are you using that clarify thor as a light speedster?

It doesn't matter what the right states.If what the writer wrote is actually that fast....on panel>writer statement

Thor can be faster then light. He isn't always portrayed that fast or uses his speed.

I know theres a scan somewhere but i'm just about to do homework.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
It doesn't matter what the right states.If what the writer wrote is actually that fast....on panel>writer statement

Thor can be faster then light. He isn't always portrayed that fast or uses his speed.

I know theres a scan somewhere but i'm just about to do homework.

That's is exactly why I said that everyone can go light speed, because of statements like "it doesn't matter what writers state". If a writer states that flash is going under the speed of light in a scan that you use as a debate, why ignore it. The narrator clearly states that flash evacuated a city in less than the speed of light yet people get trillions of times the speed of light out of something that already have a speed given to us by the writer... that's kind of crazy.

Again, if wolvy was to fast for thor what does that make his speed? People use thor slapping blast as a light speed combat scenerio or him tagging speedsters (well people that they presume attacking thor at light speed) as evidence that the character has light speed reaction but doesn't everyone have these types of feats including people like hulk, spiderman and wolvy... why aren't they marked as light speedsters? Because they aren't high heralds huh?

Originally posted by carver9
That's is exactly why I said that everyone can go light speed, because of statements like "it doesn't matter what writers state". If a writer states that flash is going under the speed of light in a scan that you use as a debate, why ignore it. The narrator clearly states that flash evacuated a city in less than the speed of light yet people get trillions of times the speed of light out of something that already have a speed given to us by the writer... that's kind of crazy.

Again, if wolvy was to fast for thor what does that make his speed? People use thor slapping blast as a light speed combat scenerio or him tagging speedsters (well people that they presume attacking thor at light speed) as evidence that the character has light speed reaction but doesn't everyone have these types of feats including people like hulk, spiderman and wolvy... why aren't they marked as light speedsters? Because they aren't high heralds huh?

If a writer writes how fast the character is going without bothering to figure out how fast it actually is and then says that he was going under light speed.Its his fault as they made the mistake.The comic is more proof then his statements.

No because thor doesn't always fight at FTL.He probably fights at FTL the least.But he can still fight FTL.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
If a writer writes how fast the character is going without bothering to figure out how fast it actually is and then says that he was going under light speed.Its his fault as they made the mistake.The comic is more proof then his statements.

No because thor doesn't always fight at FTL.He probably fights at FTL the least.But he can still fight FTL.

Well with that said... wolverine can go 1500 mps.

Originally posted by carver9
Well with that said... wolverine can go 1500 mps.
Not even a fraction the speed of light.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Not even a fraction the speed of light.

I know it isn't but its enough for me to believe that people like spiderman or slade or cap being unable to land a lick. I can do better than that though. Wolverine = light speed. Cyclops shot an optic blast at him point blank, he side stepped the first one and cyclop shot another optic blast at him and he slapped it clean out of the way of his face with a sword.

Originally posted by carver9
I know wolverine wasn't a threat but again, before the fight began, he wasw the key factor in killing thanos.

I know its not true but again, writers see characters in a different perception than we do.


And once more I think you're referring to a What If?

Originally posted by carver9
I know it isn't but its enough for me to believe that people like spiderman or slade or cap being unable to land a lick. I can do better than that though. Wolverine = light speed. Cyclops shot an optic blast at him point blank, he side stepped the first one and cyclop shot another optic blast at him and he slapped it clean out of the way of his face with a sword.

cyclops blast isn't light speed. sure, there are a few badly informed statements saying it is, but the majority of evidence says it isn't.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
namor submerged
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Nimrod; after he scans him for weakness, he comes up with a lethal solution for dealing with his target...its lights out after that.

lol

Originally posted by -Pr-
cyclops blast isn't light speed. sure, there are a few badly informed statements saying it is, but the majority of evidence says it isn't.

There are more scans saying that it is light speed vs scans saying that its not. Wolverine was point blank range at cykes optic blast and side stepped one of them and slapped the other out if the way with a sword.

Does this make his reflexes sub light or light speed?

Originally posted by carver9
There are more scans saying that it is light speed vs scans saying that its not.

Carver you really shouldn't talk out of your ass like that.

blink, loa, shadowcat, maybe vanisher

Originally posted by Omega Vision
And once more I think you're referring to a What If?

Naah, it wasn't a what if... this really happened. Read the dialog that the narriator said when he clawed thanos in the chest.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Carver you really shouldn't talk out of your ass like that.

Huh?

No I'm not.

Two instances of cykes optic blast being light speed:

When he was aiding the fantastic four
When he was fighting against the twins aurora and north star

There are others... can't think of them.

I can only think of one instance where it was stated not to go the speed of light.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
magneto
magneto is an obvious answer uhuh

Originally posted by Galan007
Or his 'dastardly' lines:

ermmhappy

it depresses me that this was written by an adult