Fat Cobra vs Sabretooth

This simplistic, "Danny might get gutted = Danny will get gutted = Danny can never win" schlock isn't convincing me. Seriously, this has nothing to do with high-end feats. Danny's faster, more skilled, more powerful on-average and has an array of abilities that will simply destroy Sabretooth. Healing factor =/= never-getting-ko'ed-factor.

What a joke of awful and epic proportions.

Originally posted by jinzin
😂

Oh the irony.

Please tell me you didn't just laugh outloud to yourself over that. Just give me the issue #s.

ODG, stop with the flaming.

^ Sir, yes, sir.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
This simplistic, "Danny might get gutted = Danny will get gutted = Danny can never win" schlock isn't convincing me. Seriously, this has nothing to do with high-end feats. Danny's faster, more skilled, more powerful on-average and has an array of abilities that will simply destroy Sabretooth. Healing factor =/= never-getting-ko'ed-factor.

What a joke of awful and epic proportions. Are you trying to connect "Wolverine didn't actually claw his brains on-panel, it was telekinesis" with "Iron Fist gets tagged a few times and can't use the Iron Fist = wtf"?

Please tell me you didn't just laugh outloud to yourself over that. Just give me the issue #s.

Because Danny will get gutted. He isn't fast or skilled enough to avoid that outcome, and never has been. The notion that Sabretooth would be unable to land a blow is absurd. Creed is fast enough to land a blow and a single blow is all he needs. but somehow you think that Iron Fist landing dozens of unanswered iron fists in quick succession without Creed landing a single blow is the likely outcome...

Creed can and will tank Danny's best blow. Creed's best blow will fold Danny like a lawn chair. Creed is more than fast and skilled enough to tag Danny once. Simple. Sabretooth wins.

Originally posted by King Castle
i dont know i guess if Fat Cobra lands the back hand of Bhudda on Sabretooth it would be enough to ko him, b/c it sounds impressive enough.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/64270/1295697-combat.jpg

but i do apologize for me failing to see Ironfist hitting Fat Cobra with an ironfist. how strong do you think it was and do you consider Fat Cobra's blunt durability equal to his piercing damage especially with some one like sabe?

Most likely either Classic Iron Fist level or even weaker. It wasn't one of his stronger chi blows since he didn't want to rest hurting anyone and the large ones would at the very least send Fat cobra across the area instead of just on his ass.

The kick he hit Davos with would have send a wave of chi around him hitting the crowds of people. Which is why he tried to run away from the civilans.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Because Danny [b]will get gutted. He isn't fast or skilled enough to avoid that outcome, and never has been. [/B]

Fantastic logic: Sabretooth can slash ppl. Slashing ppl hurts them. Sabretooth gets into fight with ppl. No matter what, Sabretooth will slash that ppl dead. Therefore, Sabretooth wins against that ppl.

You can insist on the underlined part as much as you want. I'm not dignifying that absolutist nonsense anymore.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Most likely either Classic Iron Fist level or similar. It wasn't one of his stronger chi blows since he didn't want to rest hurting anyone and the large ones would at the very least send Fat cobra across the area instead of just on his ass.

The kick he hit Davos with would have send a wave of chi around him hitting the crowds of people. Which is why he tried to run away from the civilans.

I can see at his base lvl's and simply skills being questionable for either one but i dont see Fat Cobra fighting at that lvl being able to put down Sabe nor was it anything hasnt himself faced and exceeded in the past.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
facepalm

Cite a single example of Danny displaying the speed/skill to completely avoid being tagged by someone of Sabretooth's caliber.

Originally posted by King Castle
so you agree that IF was holding back and not a full indication of Fat Cobra's durability or strength?

...... my entire argument from page one has been Danny threw the fight 😐

Originally posted by King Castle
so you agree that IF was holding back and not a full indication of Fat Cobra's durability or strength?

I can see at his base lvl's and simply skills being questionable for either one but i dont see Fat Cobra fighting at that lvl being able to put down Sabe nor was it anything hasnt himself faced and exceeded in the past.

He wasn't holding back but he needs time to channel his chi for his most powerful attacks and Cobra didn't afford him the opportunity to do it.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Cite a single example of Danny displaying the speed/skill to completely avoid being tagged by someone of Sabretooth's caliber.

Now add Orson's chi and all the skills of the Book of the Iron Fist on top of that that allow him to do things like heal in mid-fight, much less snatch bullets with his fingers and punch Helicarriers.

^ There is a clue in there somewhere. Take your time.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He wasn't holding back but he needs time to channel his chi for his most powerful attacks and Cobra didn't afford him the opportunity to do it.

I think he held back, in hong kong he mostly ran to get a way from people. He was upset with him saying trying to convince himself he didn't throw the fight (normally if he loses he just accepts it), right before the fight he was told he wants to achieve what he was after he would have to let Cobra win.

And before he was showing better power then that fight and after that he was displayed as more powerful of the two

Originally posted by jalek moye
...... my entire argument from page one has been Danny threw the fight 😐

kidding, the fight i dont see Ironfist necessarily throwing the fight but simply holding back subconsciously.

but then i also dont see Ironfist operating at his helcarrier, building punching lvl as his norm but simply as his kamikaze attack that requires a lil more effort to summon let alone apply constantly in battle

That's what i mean throwing the fight by not fighting his best making him more defatble but still "fighting"

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
He's already been tagged by Sabretooth and fended him off while blind and Iron Fist-less. Same with Wolverine.

Now add Orson's chi and all the skills of the Book of the Iron Fist on top of that that allow him to do things like heal in mid-fight, much less snatch bullets with his fingers and punch Helicarriers.

^ There is a clue in there somewhere. Take your time.

lmao

The first appearance of Sabretooth when he was just a savage killer with no powers and still give Danny a fight? That is worse than citing Batman having trouble with Cops in Year One. At least try to have some credibility buddy sheesh. Once Creed had his established bio / power set he walked all over Danny with ease while toying with him... and he has had upgrades since then.

Danny isn't any faster, stronger or more skilled after reading the Book of the Iron Fist then he was before. His chi is stronger, and he has more versatility... but nothing that will help him against Creed. Sabretooth would open him like a can of tuna.

He could always casually catch bullets?

My brain is hurting from all the fail in this thread

Originally posted by Mindset
He could always casually catch bullets?

Originally posted by King Castle
reflexively in reaction time sure, he is a comic street lever afterall and bullet feats have become the norm. he just didnt know if he could especially when you think of the durability requirement.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
lmao

The first appearance of Sabretooth when he was just a savage killer with no powers and still give Danny a fight? That is worse than citing Batman having trouble with Cops in Year One. At least try to have some credibility buddy sheesh. Once Creed had his established bio / power set he walked all over Danny with ease while toying with him... and he has had upgrades since then.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Danny isn't any faster, stronger or more skilled after reading the Book of the Iron Fist then he was before. His chi is stronger, and he has more versatility... but nothing that will help him against Creed. Sabretooth would open him like a can of tuna.