Originally posted by Starscream M
and theres no evidence adamantium has special resistance against acid
Also Adamantium has been called the indestructible metal and I think the government would have tested for acid and bases for their effect on the stuff. Also if some of the attacks that have hit logan haven't done it by now some free floating hydrogen atoms aren't going to do it either.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
In a comic I see Wolverine getting buttraped by a single Pred, only to absolutely smoke an entire hunting party along with an army of Aliens during the rematch.
It happens to most "team badasses" and to people like superman. It to make the new threat look badass.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
with a team no less to boot, but then by himself he shit stomp mad of them. He sometimes getts little down played on teams.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
I've also noticed that Predators and Aliens function that way, in their first strike they're absolutely devastating, but if you can survive the first few encounters you make them your *****.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
true, isent that would pretty much happened to Batman as well? At first he was getting worked, but ended up owning the predator.
Xenomorph acid was described as the most corrosive substance in their universe, it could burn through meters of metal. whether or not it could destroy adamantium is irresolvable as neither the acid nor the metal are typical in any way, I personally dont think it can.
Regardless, it could certainly disolve all the organs in his thoracic and abdominal cavities, and very quickly at that, ending the battle with a temp death. If it's poured over his head it could sink into his skull through forami and liquify the brain for permanent death. Aliens, who are actually plenty smart, have deliberately used the acid as an offense weapon and as means to manipulate their environment before, and the predators could certainly figure that out.
If they all fight smart, logan loses. His stealth would be useless and he's outnumbered. The aliens are very tough fighters and the chemical retaliations imposed by their injuries would be severe, specially against an enemy that depends entirely on CQC. On top of all that, the predators have plasma cannons and hand carried nukes.
Originally posted by 753
Xenomorph acid was described as the most corrosive substance in their universe, it could burn through meters of metal. whether or not it could destroy adamantium is irresolvable as neither the acid nor the metal are typical in any way, I personally dont think it can.Regardless, it could certainly disolve all the organs in his thoracic and abdominal cavities, and very quickly at that, ending the battle with a temp death. If it's poured over his head it could sink into his skull through forami and liquify the brain for permanent death. Aliens, who are actually plenty smart, have deliberately used the acid as an offense weapon and as means to manipulate their environment before, and the predators could certainly figure that out.
If they all fight smart, logan loses. His stealth would be useless and he's outnumbered. The aliens are very tough fighters and the chemical retaliations imposed by their injuries would be severe, specially against an enemy that depends entirely on CQC. On top of all that, the predators have plasma cannons and hand carried nukes.
Acids are based on hydrogen ions breaking bonds and attaching to the freed atoms. Predators have weapons that can handle the acid though it must be difficult for them to procure as they do not standard equip them even on a xenomorph hunt and are inevitably faced with the derp derp of their wrist blades melting from the acidic blood. But thats besides the point I doubt anything the predators have is as durable as Logans skeleton and he should be able to deal with the xenos scum easily enough.
1. Xenomorphs are awesome.
2. Haven't ever seen any material in the crossovers that can actually tank the acid.
3. His bones aren't all that imposrtant because Wolverine is mostly flesh and can be defeated through damage done to that flesh by acid, talons, blades or plasma cannons. The damage output in this crowd is more than it would take to put him down as regeneration from substantial loss of mass takes a long time.
Oy....
Alright I can't stand watching this crap anymore... There's a LOT that needs to be cleared up in this thread.
First off. We've seen Predator equipment that can handle Alien acid to a fairly decent degree so it's pretty clear that while Aliens can burn (decompose) their way through most substances, they can't burn their way through every substance.
Besides that we know that you can use products like stainless steel in order to contain/transport things like hydrosulfurics. Adamantium treats steel like hot butter.
As someone as already mentioned acids have been used on Wolverine's skeleton already and while his flesh dissolved his skeleton did not.
As someone else mentioned, his bones have been described as unbreakable.. and proven to be against countless types of attacks, strains, and tests. If his skeleton was so easy to dissolve with acid I think it would have been attempted by now.
Second... I've never understood why... and I never will... so many people hear "elder predator" and suddenly become under this trance that whatever they're fighting has no chance of victory. It's hilarious to me.
Elder predators are not gods of combat. They're just competent fighters as well as seasoned hunters.
That's something that has to be accounted for in this thread. Predators are not typically well versed in one on one combat, they're hunters.
Even Shorty who was a bug-hunt vet got his shit kicked in by Machiko a 5 foot 4 100 poun asian girl with a brown belt in unarmed 1on1 combat.
Now while the average predator can overpower, and out muscle your typical human, even your above average humans like dutch or his brother, none of those guys even comes close to being a physical threat to guys like Wolverine, Daredevil, Cap etc.... Even without powers Wolverine has one shot guys who make the Shaefer brothers look tiny by comparison, as DDD said before, he slings them arround like pillows.
When it comes to actually having to fight, Aliens are the cream of the crop for most hunters but even then look at some of their best warriors.
The Elder Broken tusk could take down what 5 or 6 aliens in combat and that was some feat for a predator. Maybe one of the best to date because other seasoned hunters like
Light Stepper (one handed pred) or Wolf (Avpr) couldn't take 1 damned predalien without serious issue in 1on1 combat.
Then you have novelizations and comics that have elders DIE in one on one combat with regular Xeno's...
I mean I guess that taking out Aliens is supposed to be impressive but with Wolverine's powers I'm fairly confident that he would run wild on a number of them before going down. Look at his fight with the N'garai nation. He went to town on their entire brood who are all physically endowed enough to take on guys like Hulk or run through the best the danger room could offer with no resistance at all.
If you look at the best feats a predator can offer in skill, it comes off like a bare minimum of street level riffraff like Night Thrasher, nevermind street kings like Deadpool, or hell even Moonknight.
Finally as for the fight, CIS included, Aliens have a natural hostile response to Predators created by millions of years of evolution. Even though Wolverine is in the area they'll be more naturally inclined to attack the predators.
All that said, IF for some reason in this particular thread CIS doesn't apply to the AVP feud, then the hunters can win this.
All they have to do is sit back and wait for the Xeno's to attack Wolverine, then blast the Xeno's to hell spraying acid all over Wolves. That sets him up for a series of plasma blasts... and if he's still up after that they can end the fight by cutting him down with their nodachis. Luckly for them Predator weaponry is practically designed to deal with Wolverine by bleeding him out which would be fairly easy to do after all the aforementioned damage.
They can win this, but only by playing to their strengths and it isn't because ZOMG ELDERZ R UBER!1!
However, if they for some reason end up caught in a brawl with Wolverine up close, if he uses his senses to counter ambush them (as Aliens have done in the past) and draw them in close quarters, they're all phucked and they will be cut down just like the N'garai were.