Originally posted by Starscream Mlook at the art and how old looks this didnt magically come up. its actually the opposite new writers have magically and selectively magically removed it for certain stories without rhyme or reason.
because he gets magical upgrades that come for no rhyme or reason 😐
a robotic double
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ignores Betsy's mind control and backhands her
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Originally posted by Allankles
I say having TP should allow me to take over anyone without psionics or devices (implants etc). Having mental scars shouldn't stop me from taking over, shutting down your higher functions (at the conscious level) shouldn't stop me from - at the very least -invading whatever part of your mind I want. Without implants you have nothing psionic to stop me, you have no psionic barriers.Wolvie has no psionic barriers, point blank, except whatever implants that were installed in his brain. So if said implants are out of the picturem, a telepath should screw him over. Not unless Wolvie has unknown psionic abilities, which allow him to put up barriers.
Higher functions or lower functions you should be able to control him as a TP user. In fact being animalistic makes you easier to manipulate, simpler mind, simpler controls (sex, food aggression etc).
Fact remains his animalistic side add to his telepathic resistences, as shown and stated on pannel.
Also as shown and stated on pannel his scaring of his mind are barrier naturally created by his body and healing factor to protect his mind from intrusion, as are implants left by weapon x.
So you can have this opinion all you want, but the fact remains both those abilities are very much real in marvel and very much are abilities wolverine posses, weather you like them or not. Your version of how powerful telepaths should be is very different then many others including mine and writers it seems.
Originally posted by ExodusCloakForgotten never to be mentioned again as I understand it. But T-vo was introduced long after SM had an established TP resistence, just like Magneto's helmet, and it's more of a discipline than a superpower on its own, right?
What happened to T-Vo??
Edit: more to the point, it is as plausible that SM is immune to TP thanks to his kryptonian yoga tricks as it is that some human who was trained to resist TP, like logan and most of Xavier's students, can shrug it off too.
Originally posted by Allanklesagain he does.. his mental implants were never fully removed by Xavier he only lowered a few to peek and see what was behind them,.... and logan does possess certain psionic abilities which i know would piss ppl off if i started labeling his psionic feats and his history of resisting telepathic intrusion and mind control should be enough for you rather then ignoring them.
I say having TP should allow me to take over anyone without psionics or devices (implants etc). Having mental scars shouldn't stop me from taking over, shutting down your higher functions (at the conscious level) shouldn't stop me from - at the very least -invading whatever part of your mind I want. Without implants you have nothing psionic to stop me, you have no psionic barriers.Wolvie has no psionic barriers, point blank, except whatever implants that were installed in his brain. So if said implants are out of the picture, a telepath should screw him over. Not unless Wolvie has unknown psionic abilities, which allow him to put up barriers.
Higher functions or lower functions you should be able to control him as a TP user. In fact being animalistic makes you easier to manipulate, simpler mind, simpler controls (sex, food, aggression etc are easier to use for manipulation, things an animal is hard wired to respond to).
you must prove that Grodd has equal or superior powers to Emma frost or his Psi-bolts are equal or superior to Psi-borg or shiva's.
Originally posted by 753
Forgotten never to be mentioned again as I understand it. But T-vo was introduced long after SM had an established TP resistence, just like Magneto's helmet, and it's more of a discipline than a superpower on its own, right?
Don't know. Someone tried to explain T-vo to me years ago and I never got it. I'm told it's mix of magic and telepathy.
anyways....... moving on to superman.
kryptonians are suppose to be latent telepaths back in the day and part of their cultural history.
although, their telepathy is low end they did have telepathic mental exercises to strengthen the mind and even to control their battle armor which required a certain mental frequency and low end Tp to use.
Superman used his low end TP to operate his battle suit when he came back in black after Doomsday killed him.
Anyway back on topic, Wolverine has resistance to telepathy. I guess there's no denying that. Whether people like it or not or think it's right or wrong...we can't do anything about it, it is established.
So I guess the next logical step would be to prove whether or not Current Gorilla Grodd is powerful enough to overcome Wolverine's defenses/resistances.
So one needs to provide feats for Post-Crisis Grodd to show that he is a high end telepathic user.
Originally posted by Kontonit's psychic scarring not physical brain scarring...kinda how some one can be scarred emotionally or have their soul weaken or strengthen kinda thing.http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/561/xmos1oroborosdcp012qk2.jpg
If Wolverine's healing factor is so awesome, how come he has brain scarring?😖hifty:
Originally posted by ExodusCloakAs I understand it, it's some kryptonian esoteric discipline that lets one focus one's mental energy to do some crap through the astral plane or whatever. They get TP resistance and might interact with others in psi battle, etc. Point is that it's an apparently learned gimmick, similar to moondragon's TP acquired through training.
Don't know. Someone tried to explain T-vo to me years ago and I never got it. I'm told it's mix of magic and telepathy.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Duganlol
magically upgraded? This has been part of his character for a long time, just because you lack any sort of history of the character is why it might seem "magical" to you, but for anyone who knows his character, it pretty standard. He shown TP resistances for years upon years even decades. Not to mention the reasons were also given and stated......you just enjoy failing don't you?
so wolverine was always the right hand of god
wolverine always could tank a nuke
wolverine always could heal in a vat of molten lava
wolverine was always resistant to tp
etcetc
everytime I talk to you...wolverine gets a new power or upgrade
