Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos beat eternity due to his willpower it was stated right on panel.
I see Quan is up to his LYING ways once again; this was NEVER stated on panel...ever.
Your attempts to make Thanos seem better than what he is knows no bounds...do they?
Well, I guess I should expect it; once a habitual LIAR, always a habitual LIAR! This makes what? Atleast 6 six time in this thread alone that you have LIED to attempt to make Thanos seem better than what he really is?
LOL!!
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Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Another person who stole Rampage's soul.
This has got to be a joke...
Rashad didn't DO SQUAT in that fight. He took Page down a few times... big wow. Everybody got excited about the counter right in the first round that sent page back but didn't hurt him in the least. Plus Page almost won in the 3rd round. A tired, ring rusted (hadn't fought in almost 2 years) anyways.
Lastly, he didn't give up against Shogun at all. The ref stopped the fight. Even with Shogun landing.. knees, punches, stomps, head kicks... he couldn't even put page away or KO him. When they fight again, after Shogun destroys Rashad... Page while spank that ass.
Rampages wins makes Shogun, Rashad and Machida look like they have been fighting in the WEC this whole time.
Originally posted by rotiart
Look I'm reading Infinity Gauntlet Issue 5 of 6 right now. there is NO mention of willpower.. wills.. etc.. in any of the issues from when Eternity shows himself.. to the end of the book.Eternity says. Defend yourself. and the two charge each other.
Next panel there is a flash of
Next panel Adam warlock says the battle is already decided.There is no contest of wills or anything that you claim. Thanos had the gauntlet. therefore he won. He willed nothing against eternity.
The on panel evidence make it CLEAR why Thanos was choosen. Warlock says... YOU were choosen because of your WILL Titan. It couldn't be anymore clear than that. Most anybody couldn't contain the naked energies of the heart and it not destroy them. Thanos was choosen because of his experience with ultimate power and because his WILL was strong enough to get the job done. It doesn't matter that the TOAA wanted him to get it. The reason he had Thanos get it was because he WILL was strong enough to carry out TOAA plans. No ambiguity.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiI think you guys are talking about two different things, IG and The End...
The on panel evidence make it CLEAR why Thanos was choosen. Warlock says... YOU were choosen because of your WILL Titan. It couldn't be anymore clear than that. Most anybody couldn't contain the naked energies of the heart and it not destroy them. Thanos was choosen because of his experience with ultimate power and because his WILL was strong enough to get the job done. It doesn't matter that the TOAA wanted him to get it. The reason he had Thanos get it was because he WILL was strong enough to carry out TOAA plans. No ambiguity.
However Warlock's statement in The End (which may just be his guess, opinion, or stroking Thanos' ego anyway) doesn't say or prove that only Thanos had the will, just that Thanos does have the will. That makes Thanos' reply also important: "Chosen and tricked... I foolishly leapt for it." So the force behind it needed someone who a) had the will and b) could be tricked into taking and using the power, and wouldn't see what was going on until it was too late.
No doubt there could be other beings who had the willpower but either:
- couldn't be tricked so easily into taking it (maybe some of the really smart abstracts for example);
- simply do not covet power in any way and wouldn't even be tempted to take it (think someone like Captain America. Not saying he has the willpower, but if he did I doubt he would be tempted to seize the power at all. He wouldn't take it and use it.);
- were in the know to begin with, and part of the grand plan (like say Living Tribunal);
- or were too selfish, might see through the trick and completely mess up the plan by acting selfishly. People like Doom or the Elders maybe.
1. Are we bring in mma fights in this thread now... Cough...
2. The will comment may be part of it... But the fact is tht thanos had to choose between suicide and removing the cancer that was heroes being brought back to life the universe or an eternity of solitude. Death arrives. Kisses thanos.... And guess what he chooses. The paramour of death chooses to be by her side...
Thanos wants to be with death. Besides will thanos mentions his body has been trained to house massive amounts of energy which is why he believed he had a better shot than humans with no training who would need to be coaxed...
And even then his body falls apart. His will stays together... But that's also a bit to do with his physical heritage... Like surfer and his durability feats.. Like containing the gl energies in the pre dc marvel crossover...
Let's be clear I do not deny thanos has a strong will... But his body is more up to take task... Doom is a simple human with training... The things he endured arent comparable...
Relativity... You are comparing apples to oranges. Like u can compare batman to dick Grayson because they are base humans against punished... But you wouldn't compare punishers will as a relation to damage soak compared to silver surfer...
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The on panel evidence make it CLEAR why Thanos was choosen. Warlock says... YOU were choosen because of your WILL Titan. It couldn't be anymore clear than that. Most anybody couldn't contain the naked energies of the heart and it not destroy them. Thanos was choosen because of his experience with ultimate power and because his WILL was strong enough to get the job done. It doesn't matter that the TOAA wanted him to get it. The reason he had Thanos get it was because he WILL was strong enough to carry out TOAA plans. No ambiguity.
"Spider-Man, I choose you because of your bravery."
Does that mean nobody else is brave, or as brave as Spider-Man ? Of course not.
"Tony Stark, I choose you because of your intelligence"
Does that mean nobody else is intelligent, or as intelligent as Tony Stark ? Of course not.
And so on...
@ lord of murder...
Seriously did you just walk in this thread to try to provoke Quan? Please contribute to the debate. Creating unnecessary animosity is ridiculous...
And I do not disagree that thanos has a massive will... I just don't think it's something we can compare equally between him and doom... Surfer or another herald type like Thor sure...
Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
So ? Does that mean Thanos was the only being in the universe with such a strong will ?"Spider-Man, I choose you because of your bravery."
Does that mean nobody else is brave, or as brave as Spider-Man ? Of course not.
"Tony Stark, I choose you because of your intelligence"
Does that mean nobody else is intelligent, or as intelligent as Tony Stark ? Of course not.
And so on...
Is this suppose to prove something? There is a HUGE difference between saying you choosen because of your bravery or intelligence than saying you were choosen because of your will. Spider being brave in facing a pacticular opponent or putting his life on the line is worlds from what we are talking. Many people could be brave in those terms just by TRYING to accomplish the task and thus being brave. Big deal. To house the naken energies of the heart.. now that is something not many could accomplish. We saw it ravage Thanos body and it was his will that overcame it. No not anybody could pull that task off and to claim so, is pretty retarded. However, pretty much everybody could be brave in the spiderman sense.
To go further.. the same with Iron Man. Sure he's intelligent and pretty damn intelligent. A statement like that doesn't prove what you are trying to make it prove. In fact, it support my side of the argument. Could other do what Tony stark was choosen to do.. maybe, maybe not. If there are people who could.. they are few and far between. That is exactly the case with Thanos and the heart. I never once claimed he was THE ONLY person who could pull it off. Although there was zero mention of anybody else being up for the task or having as strong of a will. However, what we can say is, whether there is someone else or not, Thanos is part of a select few with a strong enough will to accomplish the task. So, if your will is one of if not the best out there.. that more than proves the case of Thanos will. It doesn't have to be the only will to accomplish the task, just being that select few puts his will above the vast majority of everybody else.
.... This is the way I read both your arguments:
To paraphrase king kurdy: thanos is not the only one with a sufficient will when considering will alone.
To paraphrase kurupt thanosi: thanos being one of the select few seems to agree with the argument that thanos is not the only person who could have been selected on basis of will alone...
My comment on it: Other factors lead to thanos being chosen...in add but Not simply due to his will.. His durability for example and history with those levels of energies... And fondness for death...
Unless someone really wants to make a claim that of the entire multiverse singularly has the highest will...
Originally posted by rotiart
@ lord of murder...Seriously did you just walk in this thread to try to provoke Quan?
Not at all, just stating the facts; reread the thread if you doubt me...
He has blatantly LIED several times in this thread and I called him on it each and every time; Quan will attempt to pass off a LIE as if it was a fact when it comes down to defending Thanos...
I simply make it a point to highlight his LIES whenever he does so...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Not at all, just stating the facts; reread the thread if you doubt me...He has blatantly LIED several times in this thread and I called him on it each and every time; Quan will attempt to pass off a LIE as if it was a fact when it comes down to defending Thanos...
I simply make it a point to highlight his LIES whenever he does so...
I see. Well be careful of what you are seeking to do before it crosses the line into trolling. :-/ it's a debate about characters not the posters.
Attack the claim and not the person. But anyways.
Originally posted by FanBoy101
Dr. Doom powering the Asguardian Destroyervs
Current Bad Ass Thanos... 😎
Dr. doom gets 1 hour prep time and thanos knows this 10 seconds before the fight...
How this goes... 😕
The thread op says the asgardian destroyer and not dooms...
So I say if doom was empowering the regular destroyer armor and going against thanos... Doom wins. He vaporizes thanos enough for it to count.
Originally posted by quanchi112Fine normal will. Thanos now has a stronger will then a human. 1 up.
What proof is there he's slightly above a normal will ? you asked for a comparison I gave you one, sport.No, it isn't it's manipulating their emotions through his powers it has nothing to do with breaking his willpower. When did eros do this anyways ?
Saying Doom has a great will when not providing any evidence is why no one fears you in a debate.
Doom's will was broken by beyonder on panel. Doom was a mess and a wreck because his willpower isn't anywhere near Thanos' level.
You prove something. You never do.
This post didn't address you. You don't understand anything.
During the infinity gauntlet 😐
I did. You haven't.
😂. Beyonder stole his power back. Not broke his will.
I already did.Now you please provide proof.
Originally posted by NihilistDoom was being dissected and was alive due to will alone. Next.
Thanos body was being destroyed inside the HOTU and overcame it due to will power alone.Dooms will broke by the Beyonder.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderYou're so worked up over this. I am still pretty sure it was mentioned somewhere but hey it's not his best willpower feat it's the heart feat. The same story where doom was outwitted by the same guy people laughed at. Akt>>>Doom with prep.
I see Quan is up to his LYING ways once again; this was NEVER stated on panel...ever.Your attempts to make Thanos seem better than what he is knows no bounds...do they?
Well, I guess I should expect it; once a habitual LIAR, always a habitual LIAR! This makes what? Atleast 6 six time in this thread alone that you have LIED to attempt to make Thanos seem better than what he really is?
LOL!!
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Originally posted by shokosugiWhich feats ?
Doom feats >>> Thanos feats
Originally posted by Black bolt zAkt beat Doom in the same story. Doom had prep and his plan was a massive failure. Hal Jordan is a human being yet his willpower is awesome so willpower has nothing to do with being human or alien please make an actual point you don't even know what willpower is.
Fine normal will. Thanos now has a stronger will then a human. 1 up.During the infinity gauntlet 😐
I did. You haven't.
😂. Beyonder stole his power back. Not broke his will.
I already did.Now you please provide proof. Doom was being dissected and was alive due to will alone. Next.
Which page did Eros do so from which book ?
No, you honestly haven't his will was broken by the beyonder.
This is Doom hitting the floor because he lacks the willpower to control his newfound power and the beyonder was breaking him through his cunning.