Dr. Doom vs Thanos

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Originally posted by Mindset
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Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
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Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
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So tell me, what did Mephisto do to fool Thanos?

I believe you are referring to Silver Surfer #45 when Mephisto tried to trick Thanos and steal the IG?

Nearly had him, too...

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
He was nothing special, you know that very well.
He wasn't like an ordinary person and humans just like doom or hal jordan can have exceptional wills. Thanos' will is beyond exceptional.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
OK so thanos has a greater will then a slighly higher then normal will.

No because he is affecting his emotions and telling him to do things. Its the same as taking their will and telling them to do something. As of yet Doom's will>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanos's.

😐. Thats not what happened at all. Beyonder took back his powers after doom beat him who was infinity stronger then he was by using his will to stay alive while being dissected.

Prove something. I did provide proof.

What proof is there he's slightly above a normal will ? you asked for a comparison I gave you one, sport.

No, it isn't it's manipulating their emotions through his powers it has nothing to do with breaking his willpower. When did eros do this anyways ?

Saying Doom has a great will when not providing any evidence is why no one fears you in a debate.

Doom's will was broken by beyonder on panel. Doom was a mess and a wreck because his willpower isn't anywhere near Thanos' level.

You prove something. You never do.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I've never been on herochat 😐. Still no.
This post didn't address you. You don't understand anything.

Originally posted by Black bolt z

Prove something. I did provide proof.
Thanos body was being destroyed inside the HOTU and overcame it due to will power alone.

Dooms will broke by the Beyonder.

And the clincher is that for all thanos's will. Toaa intended for thanos to get it. You can not reasonably draw a comparison between two forces when one was being willfully given and the other forcibly restricted...

Its not like they both went after thoti or both went after the beyonder... In thanos case it was intended for him to achieve a bonding with thoti... The power levels they went against may have been the same... But since thanos was always intended to get it... It's like getting a promotion when you are getting a benefit due to sex race etc. Sure you may have worked hard... But how will you ever truly know what you earned

Originally posted by rotiart
And the clincher is that for all thanos's will. Toaa intended for thanos to get it. You can not reasonably draw a comparison between two forces when one was being willfully given and the other forcibly restricted...

Its not like they both went after thoti or both went after the beyonder... In thanos case it was intended for him to achieve a bonding with thoti... The power levels they went against may have been the same... But since thanos was always intended to get it... It's like getting a promotion when you are getting a benefit due to sex race etc. Sure you may have worked hard... But how will you ever truly know what you earned

Yes, we can he was chosen because of his past actions not just because he randomly selected some bum he took the best man for the job. Thanos' will already showed itself capable of beating eternity.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, we can he was chosen because of his past actions not just because he randomly selected some bum he took the best man for the job. Thanos' will already showed itself capable of beating eternity.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, we can he was chosen because of his past actions not just because he randomly selected some bum he took the best man for the job. Thanos' will already showed itself capable of beating eternity.

Thanos has a history of attaining great power and "losing on purpose"
Cosmic cube. Infinity gauntlet... Even during the infinity war it was mentioned when he fought his doppleganger and ate the butterfly thatbwas him...

And will... Are you talking about defeating eternity while wearing the infinity gauntlet... Because nebula took eternity's role from thanos easily... And I don't think we want to put her will up here...

Otherwise what time are you talking about when you mention eternity

Originally posted by rotiart
Thanos has a history of attaining great power and "losing on purpose"
Cosmic cube. Infinity gauntlet... Even during the infinity war it was mentioned when he fought his doppleganger and ate the butterfly thatbwas him...

And will... Are you talking about defeating eternity while wearing the infinity gauntlet... Because nebula took eternity's role from thanos easily... And I don't think we want to put her will up here...

Otherwise what time are you talking about when you mention eternity

Thanos beat eternity due to his willpower it was stated right on panel. Nebula never faced eternity. My arguments are sound and quite correct.

Thanos betrayed himself and allowed her to take the glove this has nothing to do with willpower.

Whether Thanos subconsciously later betrays himself is irrelevant his willpower based on his past experiences made the heart absorption feat possible not TOAA.

After thanos attained eternity's power/role. Nebula slipped the gauntlet off. Wore it. And reversed everything thanos did.

Originally posted by rotiart
After thanos attained eternity's power/role. Nebula slipped the gauntlet off. Wore it. And reversed everything thanos did.
This has nothing to do with willpower it has to do with the power she attained with the ig.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This has nothing to do with willpower it has to do with the power she attained with the ig.

Look I'm reading Infinity Gauntlet Issue 5 of 6 right now. there is NO mention of willpower.. wills.. etc.. in any of the issues from when Eternity shows himself.. to the end of the book.

Eternity says. Defend yourself. and the two charge each other.
Next panel there is a flash of
Next panel Adam warlock says the battle is already decided.

There is no contest of wills or anything that you claim. Thanos had the gauntlet. therefore he won. He willed nothing against eternity.

Originally posted by rotiart
Look I'm reading Infinity Gauntlet Issue 5 of 6 right now. there is NO mention of willpower.. wills.. etc.. in any of the issues from when Eternity shows himself.. to the end of the book.

Eternity says. Defend yourself. and the two charge each other.
Next panel there is a flash of
Next panel Adam warlock says the battle is already decided.

There is no contest of wills or anything that you claim. Thanos had the gauntlet. therefore he won. He willed nothing against eternity.

Want me to put in my disk and scan the page to put your troubled mind at ease.

go ahead. i have the issue out already

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/The_Infinity_Guantlet_05-27.jpg
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/The_Infinity_Guantlet_05-28.jpg
http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu111/Rotiart26/The_Infinity_Guantlet_05-29.jpg

Your turn

Originally posted by rotiart
go ahead. i have the issue out already
I know I saw this somewhere but it appears not in the issue where he battles eternity. One moment.

It's nearly 4 am but if I do come across this I will get back on this. I am pretty sure it was mentioned somewhere just have no idea now since it wasn't in the ig book.

@ Rotiart ,TOAA choose Thanos because he had the will to overcome the HOTU and was strong willed enough to give up that power when everything had to be put straight, Dooms arrogance wouldn't of let him do the same

When it comes to Thanos... the only time I can think of "wills" besides the "The End" issue.. is when magus confronts thanos with an incomplete gauntlet..

and even in the end.. the whole story is about the fact that toaa set it in motion. that thanos was chosen for his will as stated by adam warlock but also tricked as stated by thanos. Why. because the storyling is about death being permanent...

during the infinitely gauntlet issues when surfer and thanos fought.. thanos begged for death from surfer.. to be with death...

in the end... death came and finally gave thanos his recognition.. he knew he would have to forfeit all power and die... and that would only give toaa what he wanted. death again in the universe.. and who better than a lover of death.. to mark it as permanent.

im not saying thanos wasn't chosen... because of his will.. but the issues never state (unless you accept thano's narration as fact even though in the issue he surmises various errors during his narration) that his will is the greatest around...but because of the fact that he could be manipulated into doing what was necessary... wiping out everything and hitting reset so that heroes wouldn't come back to life .