Originally posted by carver9
I never said that Supes couldn't travel through space at light speed. If rogue from the xmen can do it along with Ironman, why can't Supes? Supes sure as hell isn't faster than instant transmission and he sure as hell doesn't have ONE feat of him COMBATING at light speed. Flying through space... sure, he has that, combating? You'll never find it buddy just like I won't find rogue or vulcan or Ironman combating at light speeds even though they have flown through space at those speeds.You asked for a light speed feat... well I got one for ya. How about kid goku out racing the solar flare which is solar energy emitted from a z fighters body. Well, tien did the solar flare, goku out raced it, grabbed rishi glasses, put them on and ran back to his spot before the flare touched him. A ftl feat and that was from kid goku.
You can use any version of goku you want, no matter how you look at it, he still stomps. Everyone here would be hard pressed at even seeing him and doesn't have the feats showing that they can detect things moving at super speed... especially gokus speed.
Black hair goku is enough... super saiyan 3 is a major and serious, outright STOMP imo.
Read some Superman and JLA. Never say never. 🙂
Superman outraces lasers, reflecting them back onto the Kryptonite Man while weakened by Kryptonite...
http://s810.photobucket.com/albums/zz22/truman801/?action=view¤t=speedblitzor1.jpg
Outracing a solar flare. Cool. So cell or Frieza couldn't do it, but kid goku could? Also I'd need to see a scan of that. (As well as a scan of rogue, the xmen and iroman moving ftl...) You keep bringing it up. Oh and btw, if Goku grabbing someones glasses is a speed combat feat, then so are all of the ones of Superman building things. More so in fact. 😬
So you show me a scan of Goku or any Z fighter or Dragon Ball Z character in general in the history of the series (Dragonball Gt included) moving at or fighting at lightspeed or faster.
As it stands, Goku is arguably a statue to 5 on.