Originally posted by Psycho Doctor
Are all of Gladiator's average feats done at [b]peak confidence? That is the stipulation here. Unless you think there's no difference between low confidence Gladiator and peak confidence Gladiator. [/B]
Originally posted by Omega Vision
Has there ever been a peak confidence Gladiator on panel or is it some hypothetical bullshit like FP Galactus or Infinite Rage/Strength Hulk?
Then why bother adding "peak confidence" as a stipulation if it makes no difference whatsoever? Maybe the OP was implying the use of Gladiators high-end feats. There might not be any on panel feats of Gladiator at peak confidence, but I guess speculation isn't allowed in a versus forum....oh wait the entire point of hypothetical battles between comic heroes IS speculation. I almost forgot.
Originally posted by The Nuul
Speaking of that, whens the last time Glads punched a asteroid/small planet in half?
i read that as "steroid".
no idea, though.
Originally posted by Psycho Doctor
Are all of Gladiator's average feats done at [b]peak confidence? That is the stipulation here. Unless you think there's no difference between low confidence Gladiator and peak confidence Gladiator. [/B]
the difference is that we eliminate the bad feats and keep the average/good ones, while knowing what the difference is.
confidence isn't a constant thing.
Originally posted by -Pr-
i read that as "steroid".no idea, though.
the difference is that we eliminate the bad feats and keep the average/good ones, while knowing what the difference is.
confidence isn't a constant thing.
The OP's stipulation imply that we assume confidence is constant for Gladiator. It's been shown on panel there's a linear relationship between Gladiator's confidence and his powers. The lower the confidence the weaker he his, the higher the confidence the more powerful he is. Peak confidence be definition means Gladiator at his most powerful. We haven't seen Gladiator at "peak-confidence" on panel, but that doesn't stop us from making educated guesses. If peak confidence means Gladiator at his strongest, then this means we SHOULD use Gladiator's strongest-feats because it's the closest thing we have on panel of him being at his most powerful.
Originally posted by Psycho Doctor
The OP's stipulation imply that we assume confidence is constant for Gladiator. It's been shown on panel there's a linear relationship between Gladiator's confidence and his powers. The lower the confidence the weaker he his, the higher the confidence the more powerful he is. Peak confidence be definition means Gladiator at his most powerful. We haven't seen Gladiator at "peak-confidence" on panel, but that doesn't stop us from making educated guesses. If peak confidence means Gladiator at his strongest, then this means we SHOULD use Gladiator's strongest-feats because it's the closest thing we have on panel of him being at his most powerful.
the op didn't imply anything. it was quite bare.
gladiator by standard rules starts off at whatever standard confidence is for him.
i know about gladiator, and the rules remain the same. we go by averages.
Hal has no wins over supes, the best any GL has done is John's sucker punch style eye attack which stunned him.
im not convinced Hal can find and exploit glads weakness against someone this fast and strong.
Whilst gladiator is not quite superman, he's shown himself to be faster and stronger than thor which i believe is enough to win this fight.
Originally posted by -Pr-
the op didn't imply anything. it was quite bare.gladiator by standard rules starts off at whatever standard confidence is for him.
i know about gladiator, and the rules remain the same. we go by averages.
No, we normally go by averages, but Gladiator's power-source creates a loophole when people stipulate "full confidence".
Originally posted by Simbon
No, we normally go by averages, but Gladiator's power-source creates a loophole when people stipulate "full confidence".
no it doesn't, as his confidence can fluctuate. yes, you are allowed to use his high feats to an extent, but the averages are still used more often than not.
and the OP didn't state "full confidence" either.
He stated peak conidence, wich is similar.
Gladiators worse feats (colossus fight, Gambit 52 card pick up and colossus hitting back) can all be atrributed to his confidence not being at its "peak".
however, even considering these feats (and taking a more in depth look at the cannonbal feat which wasnt a fight at all) i'd give Gladiator the edge.
Originally posted by khazra
He stated peak conidence, wich is similar.
Gladiators worse feats (colossus fight, Gambit 52 card pick up and colossus hitting back) can all be atrributed to his confidence not being at its "peak".however, even considering these feats (and taking a more in depth look at the cannonbal feat which wasnt a fight at all) i'd give Gladiator the edge.
for some reason i didn't spot that in the title. my bad.
it still doesn't negate his average showings in favour of his good ones. it's not a loophole.
Originally posted by Starscream M
he did say peak confidence though
i already responded.
Originally posted by khazra
As i say, the gambit and colossus are the only 2 bad showings i can think of.
and that's fine, because we don't allow low showings anyway.
Originally posted by Starscream M
frankly, I think it does...cuz most of his poor showings can be directly attributed to low confidence...hence if we are taking him at peak confidence, then his showings are quite high
average =/= poor.