Originally posted by DesaadSS and quasar have cosmic awareness.
He was able to slug it out, physically, with a Burning Martian.I don't think he's goin to beat these guys either, but to say he can't keep Ronan busy is erroneous. He's a stealth power house, and he'll just keep coming.
How is anyone going to know about these exploitable weaknesses?
When have either SS or Quasar ever sussed out a weakness like that?
And since when does Quasar have cosmic awareness? Captain Mar-Vell was gifted with Cosmic Awareness to make up for the inferior nature of his bands, according to Eon.
Silver Surfer's abilities tend to be more cosmic senses than Cosmic Awareness, but I've still never seen him 'sense' an opponents weakness. Suss it out, sure, occasionally, but that's true of any hero.
Originally posted by Desaad
When have either SS or Quasar ever sussed out a weakness like that?And since when does Quasar have cosmic awareness? Captain Mar-Vell was gifted with Cosmic Awareness to make up for the inferior nature of his bands, according to Eon.
Silver Surfer's abilities tend to be more cosmic senses than Cosmic Awareness, but I've still never seen him 'sense' an opponents weakness. Suss it out, sure, occasionally, but that's true of any hero.
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SS "can sense specific details about people(like their race and any powers they have)"
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Originally posted by quanchi112
How is Gladiator more powerful than both Bill and Superman ?
Because going by feats he is more powerful than supes. I don't think he is more powerful than bill though... my order was wrong on that part because bill power alone ruptured galactus hull. In a physical fight, I would give glads a large egde against any one of them.
Originally posted by carver9That's why going by feats is completely not the way to decide who is more powerful. I also think you're wrong I mean Superman is loaded with impressive feats.
Because going by feats he is more powerful than supes. I don't think he is more powerful than bill though... my order was wrong on that part because bill power alone ruptured galactus hull. In a physical fight, I would give glads a large egde against any one of them.
Originally posted by carver9
Because going by feats he is more powerful than supes. I don't think he is more powerful than bill though... my order was wrong on that part because bill power alone ruptured galactus hull. In a physical fight, I would give glads a large egde against any one of them.
you said yourself you don't know all of superman's feats.
Supes' being more impressive is also a good indication.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's why going by feats is completely not the way to decide who is more powerful. I also think you're wrong I mean Superman is loaded with impressive feats.
I agree, superman has a lot of feats but even with all of the feats that he has, glads small feats still makes him far more impressive and far more powerful physically. We have already been through this quan.
Originally posted by carver9feats don't determine that Superman couldn't perform them. I mean come on. We've seen how Glads matches up with his peers and he usually drops the ball whereas superman comes through.
I agree, superman has a lot of feats but even with all of the feats that he has, glads small feats still makes him far more impressive and far more powerful physically. We have already been through this quan.
Look at Glads against masterson someone he crapped all over in experience, speed, and skill and masterson was smart enough to almost beat him to death.
Originally posted by carver9
I don't know ALL of his feats but I know more than the average joe and a lot more than some of the people onkmc (excluding you, philo, and a couple of others).
if you knew them, though, you'd rate him higher. his top feats eclipse almost any brick (and i use the term loosely) in comics (bar MAYBE hulk).
gladiator is maybe a competitor, but he's not close to being superior imo.
Originally posted by quanchi112
feats don't determine that Superman couldn't perform them. I mean come on. We've seen how Glads matches up with his peers and he usually drops the ball whereas superman comes through.Look at Glads against masterson someone he crapped all over in experience, speed, and skill and masterson was smart enough to almost beat him to death.
Quan, gladiator was WRECKING the avengers and he was also destroying masterson thor. He had masterson dead to rights and even had masterson doubting himself but gladiator decides to stand over masterson laughing which ended with him getting blasted in the back b a powerful, magic blast. Masterson took advantage of this and started wailing of him. Masterson got crushed in that fight and a plot defeated gladiator and masterson is a powerful character which you shouldn't make any mistakes against.
Who has gladiator lost to that is his peer. Hell, he stalemated surfer and was running through ego like nothing.
Originally posted by carver9Superman has taken on the jla before. I mean it's not like any elite top tier when getting crazy hasn't taken on teams before. Yes, he was beating on masterson due to his lack of experience and skill. Masterson almost killed him.
Quan, gladiator was WRECKING the avengers and he was also destroying masterson thor. He had masterson dead to rights and even had masterson doubting himself but gladiator decides to stand over masterson laughing which ended with him getting blasted in the back b a powerful, magic blast. Masterson took advantage of this and started wailing of him. Masterson got crushed in that fight and a plot defeated gladiator and masterson is a powerful character which you shouldn't make any mistakes against.Who has gladiator lost to that is his peer. Hell, he stalemated surfer and was running through ego like nothing.
The real Thor dominated another Gladiator, the Hulk bested him, I mean what else do you need here ?
Name me one elite top tier he ever defeated.
Originally posted by -Pr-
if you knew them, though, you'd rate him higher. his top feats eclipse almost any brick (and i use the term loosely) in comics (bar MAYBE hulk).gladiator is maybe a competitor, but he's not close to being superior imo.
Then you are ignoring gladiators history. Physically he is more powerful than supes. I would still give supes some wins due to supes being the smartest out of the two and figuring out gladiators weakness AND gladiator being arrogant like he is which again would be his downfall.
When gladiator is confident he gets hit in the face by solar system destroying blast and it doesn't even tickle him. When gladiator is confident he destroys planets with his fist, solo moving an asteroid 2 the size of planet earth, rip stars in half and swim in stars like they are nothing but water.
Originally posted by carver9
Then you are ignoring gladiators history. Physically he is more powerful than supes. I would still give supes some wins due to supes being the smartest out of the two and figuring out gladiators weakness AND gladiator being arrogant like he is which again would be his downfall.When gladiator is confident he gets hit in the face by solar system destroying blast and it doesn't even tickle him. When gladiator is confident he destroys planets with his fist, solo moving an asteroid 2 the size of planet earth, rip stars in half and swim in stars like they are nothing but water.
i'm not ignoring a thing. I did read X-Men, remember?
Physically? You'd need to prove it.
Superman took something bigger than a solar system sized blast of red sun radiation and survived. Superman has moved planets, giant god machines etc etc.
when did he ever rip a star in half?
swims in stars? really? you're going to use THAT against Superman?
Originally posted by carver9You haven't proven he's more powerful. Do I need to find a scan of the eldest one easily breaking his arm like it was a pretzel ?
Then you are ignoring gladiators history. Physically he is more powerful than supes. I would still give supes some wins due to supes being the smartest out of the two and figuring out gladiators weakness AND gladiator being arrogant like he is which again would be his downfall.When gladiator is confident he gets hit in the face by solar system destroying blast and it doesn't even tickle him. When gladiator is confident he destroys planets with his fist, solo moving an asteroid 2 the size of planet earth, rip stars in half and swim in stars like they are nothing but water.
These feats while impressive don't prove he can beat Supes. It's a close matchup granted but Supes is clutch whereas Glads isn't. I also see Superman as slightly stronger.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman has taken on the jla before. I mean it's not like any elite top tier when getting crazy hasn't taken on teams before. Yes, he was beating on masterson due to his lack of experience and skill. Masterson almost killed him.The real Thor dominated another Gladiator, the Hulk bested him, I mean what else do you need here ?
Name me one elite top tier he ever defeated.
What are you talking about? Gladiator was covered in the radiation weakness that takes all of his powers when he faced the hulk but I would give hulk the win over both supes and gladiator anyway due to his amping ability.
Wow... gladiator defeated thor as well and koed him. The only time thor defeated glads was when he sneaked glads ater the two saved some people from a plane crash. He then hit gladiator with the god blast (which didn't injure him).
Gladiator has defeated binary, destroyed nova, defeated the entire nova corpse, was ripping through ego, stalemated surfer, ripped through a skrull that had all the powers of the most powerful beings on the planet, while doing this he ripped through war bird along with destroying an entire fleet that was attacking the shiar empire. The list goes on. Destroyed wonderman, hell he punched wonderman through the core of the planet and he was wipping through masterson thor until he was cheap shotted.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You haven't proven he's more powerful. Do I need to find a scan of the eldest one easily breaking his arm like it was a pretzel ?These feats while impressive don't prove he can beat Supes. It's a close matchup granted but Supes is clutch whereas Glads isn't. I also see Superman as slightly stronger.
what would posting a scan of gladiator beng injured prove? Supes has showings far worse but me posting them wouldn't prove anything.
