Originally posted by The Scenario
Link uses Stone Mask, becomes unnoticeable, stabs Kratos in back?
Nah, Links best bet is wearing giants mask with Golden Guantlents. Stone mask doesn't even make him invisible. There were some gerudo gaurds that could see through it. I doubt it would trick Kratos.
What if Ganondorf wore Majora's Mask?
Originally posted by The Scenario
Link uses Stone Mask, becomes unnoticeable, stabs Kratos in back?
Assuming a stab can even put down this Kratos, who would have both enhanced durability AND regeneration.
Originally posted by danteiscool
hmm... if that's the case with his speed, then shouldn't that make him faster at attacking than anyone on the team opposing him? and since his god form multiplies it by a factor of 6 then he should be able to blitz them without much trouble. but of course Dante in DMC4 is much more powerful than DMC3 and Bayonetta has Witch Time. then again, we have no idea just how much stronger, tougher, and faster Dante is in DMC4 than he was in DMC3 other than the feats he's shown while screwing around and I doubt Bayonetta's WT will help too much.
Yeah, but now only his movement speed has been amped.
DMC4 Dante's probably better than his DMC3 counterpart by a respectable amount, but I doubt it is major. Maybe three times as fast and strong? His best strength feat in 3 is to lift a Bike, but I doubt that was his upper limit. In 4, he lifts a pretty good portion of the lifeless Saviour with one arm, but he strains a bit.
His durability has been increased though.
He got floored by a punch from Beowulf in 3, but he can tank punches from Nero with no ill effect.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Ganondorf is much more powerful than Majora, what aid can the mask offer him?
It could provide him with even more power! And then he can use the trident and get even more power that way!
Seriously though, Ganondorf wearing Majora's Mask would be cool to see, if only so the Zelda fans can see what happens when you mix chocolate and peanut butter.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I disagree. An how is ball lightning a 'really broken power?' At the least its better than full-speed lightning.Ganon's lightning:
Actual lightning (may be actually be authentic though ;p ):
Ball lightning:
One of these things is not like the others. One of these things just doesn't belong!
The idea is crap because it's either not applicable to the particular situation Ganon and Link always find themselves in, or it gives Ganon a new power, like the power to create black holes.
Did anyone look at any of the hypotheses of how Ball Lightning is created? Nobody even knows for sure how it happens, so one day I just looked at a few of the possibles on Wikipedia. And as I've explained, they either don't apply, or give Ganon a new power in order to apply.
true and from what I can tell, Nero seems to have the same level of speed Dante had in DMC3, but in one of the cutscenes in mission 1, Nero was shooting at Dante only to realize that he was shooting at air after stopping to reload. Dante popped up right behind him after that and he didn't seem to have put much effort into moving.
in 3, Dante's best strength feat other than the bike one would be him destroying the head of that statue with a punch. it may not seem like much, but it does take some considerable strength to make a shockwave from a punch travel up a statue and make the head explode like that.
yeah, Dante did get floored by Beowulf, but he seemed to have been screwing around in the beginning of the fight judging by the pre-battle cutscene, but by the end, he had realized that he should've stopped messing around and it led to him getting punched into the floor.
stamina wise, Dante has quite a lot too. in 3, the only times he tired was when he fought Vergil and Arkham. he also tired out against Beowulf but that was because he hadn't tried hard enough in the beginning like I said earlier. in 4, Dante only tired when he went up against Nero the second time around and even then he wasn't particularly winded and once again, he toyed with Nero for most of, if not all of, the fight.
Just so you guys know what god of war powers are.
Materialized comets out of the sky
Can create 4 mountain sized columns and slam them together in giant mode
Can change size (limited for this thread)
Good regeneration
Can chage the shape of weapons
Teleportation
Can make dimensions
Pyrokenisis, Telekenisis
Summon armies undead creatures (banned for this fight)
Some amount of precog
Awesome aim
well then, that certainly changes the way this fight goes. if Kratos goes full force from the get go, then I honestly can't see the team lasting too long. the ones that would last the longest are Dante and Alex due to their strength and regeneration. Link too maybe given his weapons.
you know too, all of them are pretty versatile fighters. if I had to make a list of most versatile to least it'd go like:
1. Dante (all of those weapons and guns he has along with all of the moves he has for them as well from the swordslinger and gunslinger styles. add in the default combos for each weapon that never change of course along with trickster and royal guard and Dante is undoubtedly the versatile of the bunch).
2. Alex (his claws, hammerfist, whipfist, musclemass, blade, armor, shield, and his two visions and combos for all forms. also shapeshifting).
3. Bayonetta (has a lot of moves and can summon different demons from her hair. she also has some weapons as well that have their own unique feel to them).
4. Link
Originally posted by The Scenario
Link uses Stone Mask, becomes unnoticeable, stabs Kratos in back?
That'll have about the same effect as a mosquito bite to the back of the neck, followed by the same effect as swatting one if the bug/Link gets greedy.
That's assuming that 1. It even works on Kratos in the first place (if he can navigate through Hera's Garden and assemble, then overcome the Labyrinth, this shouldn't be much of a problem), and 2. Kratos doesn't just use Helios' head to bring him back out.
Originally posted by BloodRawEngine
That's assuming that 1. It even works on Kratos in the first place (if he can navigate through Hera's Garden and assemble, then overcome the Labyrinth, this shouldn't be much of a problem), and 2. Kratos doesn't just use Helios' head to bring him back out.
He doesn't have Helios' Head in this thread though. The stab still shouldn't do much though, apart from give away Link's position, thus setting him up for a violent demise.
Which one of these would take more strength to do?
Bracing and headbutting a skyscraper miles away or Stopping the foot of the colossus and throwing it away?
I'm thinking the skyscraper has more dead weight but the fact that colossus was walking around and stomping holes through concrete buildings makes me think Kratos dealt with way more force.
when Bayonetta headbutted the building, she hit the bottom of it, which is concrete. now I can't recall the second feat you mentioned, but it also depends on how easily Kratos did it. Bayonetta knocked that building back like it was nothing. if Kratos did stop and throw back the foot of the Colossus just as easily then Kratos's feat is definitely better.
I'm sorry, but theres still absolutely no way she could have done it. Either her head or the concrete would have given in, assuming she can actually muster up the force necessary to effect it. Its just not possible to punt something that size with something the size of a forehead (unless they both happen to be made of incredibly hard substances).