PR Beyonder, Kubik & Molecule Man vs. Lucifer, Arcangel Michael & Spectre

Originally posted by Galan007
What to say, indeed. You see, my problem here isn't whether or not Beyonder has ridiculous amounts of implied power, it's whether or not he demonstrated said power enough (via feats) to deserve the wankage he receives around here. Imo, he didn't. Iyo, he did.

I am certainly not going to debate which infinity of the two was larger (it's pure nonsense, imo.)

All I was pointing out is: a.) Lucifer was utterly unfazed by a multiversal big bang dropped on his face, and b.) he was able to warp those raw/untamed energies into a physical multiverse.

Some think Beyonder has feats of equal value, some don't. Just stating my opinion, is all.

😂

If you're trying to 'push my buttons', it isn't working... It might have if I were 12-13 though, so props for that..?

Originally posted by Mindset
That was Lucifer's purpose, to shape the energy, it's not like he took the attack of a multiversal big bang.

Originally posted by Mindset
That was Lucifer's purpose, to shape the energy, it's not like he took the attack of a multiversal big bang.

So yes, he did tank a multiversal big bang at ground zero, and yes, he did warp those energies into a physical creation.

Originally posted by Galan007
The big bang was initially released right in his face. After said energies were released, Lucifer began to shape them.

So yes, he did tank a multiversal big bang at ground zero, and yes, he did warp those energies into a physical creation.

Negative.

Had Lucifer not removed Mike from Yahweh's creation, then subsequent detonation would have destroyed it. Lucifer then brought Mike to his dimension, detonated him, then began weaving those energies.

That is absolutely unarguable.

Originally posted by Galan007
Negative.

Had Lucifer not removed Mike from Yahweh's creation, then subsequent detonation would have destroyed it. Lucifer then brought Mike to his dimension, detonated him, then began weaving those energies.

That is absolutely unarguable.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Galan I thought you had him on ignore....i'm ashamed of you.

He tanked the big bang, then began manipulating those energies:

Do you not see the enormous big bang that detonated in his face in the third scan? srsly

Originally posted by Galan007
He tanked the big bang, then began manipulating those energies:

Do you not see the enormous big bang that detonated in his face in the third scan? srsly

That's because Lucifer "controlled" the detonation by removing Michael from Yahweh's creation (which saved it from being destroyed.) Yes, it's right in my scan.

Lucifer released Mike's energies, tanked them (as evident by the big bang that was released in his face), then warped those energies into his creation. If you have proof that he didn't tank the big bang, then plz post it.

Originally posted by Galan007
That's because Lucifer "controlled" the detonation by removing Michael from Yahweh's creation (which saved it from being destroyed.) Yes, it's right in my scan.

Lucifer released Mike's energies, tanked them (as evident by the big bang that was released in his face), then warped those energies into his creation. If you have proof that he didn't tank the big bang, then plz post it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he took him to a location and manipulated the energies.

In the proper setting he could do so not anywhere.

This is exactly why the girl was needed (elaine) the next time and why Lucy couldn't do so anywhere.

You failed to grasp the concept behind why Lucifer made his own creation. He did so because he wanted to be disconnected from Yahweh's 'grand plan' -- he wanted to build something unseen. He took Mike to the void so he could do just that. The feat occurring in the void doesn't mean Lucifer was only able to do so there. Don't be ridiculous.

Elaine was needed to usurp God's position. Without someone to take up the mantle, creation would have destroyed itself.

Originally posted by Galan007
No shit. And he manipulated those energies after tanking a blantant big bang to the face initially.

You failed to grasp the concept behind why Lucifer made his own creation. He did so because he wanted to be disconnected from Yahweh's 'grand plan' -- he wanted to build something unseen. He took Mike to the void so he could do just that. The feat occurring in the void doesn't mean Lucifer was only able to do so there. Don't be ridiculous.

Elaine was needed to usurp God's position. Without someone to take up the mantle, creation would have destroyed itself.

Lucy couldn't have saved creation there is the point. Elaine was also able to manipulate the power to create which was michael's power to begin with. Anyone who can manipulate these said energies won't die from the ensuing power explosion those who can't most likely die but with that being said he planned for this and knew exactly what he was getting himself into.

The character isn't portrayed as being able to take multiversal blasts you misunderstood the feat and Michael's power.

*sighs*

I was going to type an actual response, then I realized that I'd just be retyping (almost verbatim) what I've already stated WAY too many times in this thread. And since I absolutely loathe circular debates, I'm just going to stop here.

🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
*sighs*

I was going to type an actual response, then I realized that I'd just be retyping (almost verbatim) what I've already stated WAY too many times in this thread. And since I absolutely loathe circular debates, I'm just going to stop here.

🙂

That's your story and you're sticking to it. I get it. 🙂

Originally posted by Galan007
That's your story and you're sticking to it. I get it. 🙂

yesermm

LOL at Galans valiant effort

I know. I just can't keep up the circular arguments like I used to.

Lost the will, I guess. 🙁