I have a theory floating around in my head if anyone would care to elaborate. I was thinking since it was stated in the lucifer series that Yahew is not the be-all, end-all being in existance as stated by himself that there are things beyond even him. Wouldn't it be possible that since Beyonder came from outside TOOA's creation that he was more powerful than god if TOOA and Yahew function on the same principal.
Originally posted by McNasty996I think so as well. I think while in his verse he was the most powerful he wouldn't fare all too well against the Beyonder.
I have a theory floating around in my head if anyone would care to elaborate. I was thinking since it was stated in the lucifer series that Yahew is not the be-all, end-all being in existance as stated by himself that there are things beyond even him. Wouldn't it be possible that since Beyonder came from outside TOOA's creation that he was more powerful than god if TOOA and Yahew function on the same principal.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yet Sandolphon did so. Do you think sandolphon is more powerful than the beyonder ?
i find you are a victim of fallacious logic in many of your arguments.
Whether he is more powerful than Beyonder is irrelevant if their power sets are based on different categories.
Material vs divine vs psychic
Beyonder may be more powerful in one aspect, but if his opponent is immutable on the non-divine plane, there isnt much he can do.
Originally posted by Solidus BlackNo, that's completely incorrect as we have already seen a much weaker character defeat him in battle showing Beyonder can easily do so with nothing more than a blast.
i find you are a victim of fallacious logic in many of your arguments.Whether he is more powerful than Beyonder is irrelevant if their power sets are based on different categories.
Material vs divine vs psychic
Beyonder may be more powerful in one aspect, but if his opponent is immutable on the non-divine plane, there isnt much he can do.
Back up your theories with proof.
Originally posted by McNasty996
I have a theory floating around in my head if anyone would care to elaborate. I was thinking since it was stated in the lucifer series that Yahew is not the be-all, end-all being in existance as stated by himself that there are things beyond even him. Wouldn't it be possible that since Beyonder came from outside TOOA's creation that he was more powerful than god if TOOA and Yahew function on the same principal.
He is most def the be all end all of everything.. It seems he was talking about the Universe always self creating and retconning Him to being The Creator and the center of everything, that part is set in stone.. The Beyonder was a false god who never matured, completely different and would be as nothing to the real deal, be either TOAA or The Presence.
lmao at some calling Beyonder "hyperbole" or silly Mikey/Lucy feats trumping his.
Uhh, supposedly "tanking Multiversal big bangs" yawn
Beyonder created (from nothingness) a Reality that was at-least Millions of times larger & more powerful than the infinite Multiverse.
(if we get literal that would be in the quintillions)
So, considering "big bangs" ...
Beyonder did what Milkey/Lucy did only Millions of times over.
Beyonder also defeated the most powerful being in the infinite Multiverse. (Owen Reece)
Beyonder also made the Living Tribunal
and the Multiversal hierarchy "tremble" in fear of him.
Originally posted by zopzop
MM let loose a blast that would have "slagged several thousand" dimensions point blank in the Beyonder's face, with the Beyonder taken completely by suprise, yet it didn't even faze him.
btw. In Marvel comics Dimensions are Universes
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
heck even mxy has OMNIVERSAL FEATS, mxy would destroy beyonder universelucifer soloes team 1
Originally posted by kevdudeThe Beyonder was a false god who never matured, completely different and would be as nothing to the real deal, be either TOAA or The Presence.
When he entered the infinite Marvel Multiverse he was then GOD of that Reality as well.
Originally posted by Galan007
Yahweh said that he was infinite and eternal, but he was still "shaped by forces external to himself."I have always viewed that statement as a reference to the real world comic book writers/artists -- as they are forces external to him (literally), and they did shape him (literally.)
/shrug
Didn't Lucifer say he created a multiverse??