Surfer and Thanos vs Wally West and Zoom, no PIS, CIS, BFR, or BS Megamatch!!!

Started by KuRuPT Thanosi43 pages

[QUOTE=13139292]Originally posted by Tha C-Master

I'm just playing your game. At least my side has produced feats... which you ignored.

Actually that isn't even close to being true. Your side has produced low showings from Thanos with circumstances. We have produced the same. Zoom being chained up.. zoom being lassoed by WW are just two examples.

"Doesn't matter, he wrote the feat of him doing it, that was the main part of the story, the "guess" at his speed is just a guess.[/B}

He intended one thing and did another.

Action>words. If I say I picked up 50 lbs and I really picked up 100 what matters more? What I said or actually did?

But he made him goa nother.

He stated him carrying 532,000 people 70 miles in .00001 microsecond, and that is what he did. If he went lightspeed he wouldn't have rescued anyone."

Actually, you're dead wrong and don't know how canon narration works it seems. When a writer says Hulk destroyed an asteroid two times the size of earth.. We don't look at the pretty drawing of the asteroid next to lets say Saturn and go well by scale and with my calculations.. there is no way that Asteroid is two times the size of earth. The writer wanted the feat to be him destroying a twice the size of the earth asteroid. PERIOD. He didn't need the artist to draw it exactly to scale in order for his words to be true. Now are you understanding how canon works and how the writers narration is greater than your speculation and questions about quantifying via you're own math. The writer intended him to go at light speed and that is the speed he was traveling.

"Yes I have, and that is general knowledge. I'm under the impression people don't even read these characters by the things they're saying, about Zoom especially.
I don't need to do anything. I go by their ability, and since it is turned up to the max here, that is what we use. Nothing more, nothing less. Sure beats making excuses.

Zoom has moved so fast that even Superman was a statue, case closed, they can't do anything to Zoom. Flash recites the speed formula and freezes them too "

Nope we understand their powers, what we don't understand is you giving them feats they have never come close to accomplishing. You thinking either can and them actually proving they can are too seperate issues. They aren't mutually inclusive but exclusive. Doing something in a combat situation is A LOT different than racing or saving people. You need to show them doing feats in combat situations which is what we are debating here. You have yet to provide ONE shred of evidence showing either of them doing what you claim they can do in a combat situation. No matter how much that bothers you, and how much you prefer to use your speculation, that doesn't cut it in this debate.

"He's done no such thing in a situation of this calibur.

One hit and they'll be seriously hurt, keep producing those hits and they are down. It won't take 1,000 either.

They've also been hurt by less.
I've already done this, let's not make things up, and read the rules. No PIS, and in this case Full Potential no CIS.

If he hurts him and they can't react, they get blitzed into ko."

One hit and they'll be seriously hurt? Is this a bad joke or something. Do you know what he term exponentional means? Thanos has taken exponentionally more punishment than these guys can produce in many many hits let alone one.

Are you unclear about Thanos NEVER being Ko'd via blunt force trauma i.e. punches? You just can't get around that point no matter how hard you want people to believe it will hurt Thanos. Him taking two shots from Magus wielding the IG and not being Ko'd, while similar blows killed others is an example. Him taking multiple shots from Thor with the PG, is yet again, in a whole other ballpark to what these guys can and will produce. Those are just two examples.. the list goes on and on with exponetionally more punishment than these guys can produce.. shots from Tyrant... hits from Odin, Walker etc etc. It goes on and on.

What's worse you not only can produce a shred of evidence of them fighting at the speeds you wish in a combat situation. You have no proof of them even KOing someone close to Thanos level let alone durability. The proof in this area without question is in my column. I have someone who is ultra durable, never been Ko'd by blunt force trauma, and take exponentionally more punishment without being KO'd than they can produce. To counter than you would need to show them KOing someone on Thanos level with Thanos durability. You cant come close to doing so, shoot you can even show them doing this to a herald level being. That means game over in this area.

Originally posted by shokosugi
I have the book.

show me the scan where it says Thanos is "letting heroes hit him" when Thor was beating the crap out of him.

You can see it theh entire fight. can't you comprehend the scene ?

Oh man. Can you redo that? I want to be sure I can read it properly. I take it you used word?

I'll give you a rebuttal when I get back. A little bit more serious and probably more explanatory. Maybe I didn't explain it as clearly as I thought and I really need to again.

Lates. Don't wait up for me. 😉

@C-master

You are posting a feat or responding that to an incident where Thanos didn't fight to the best of his abilities and where he wasn't beaten while ignoring when Zoom was defeated by WW.

Now what comic was that scan from ?

Team 2 take it. From the get go both Wally and Zoom move at speeds faster than Team 1 could imagine, and pulverize them to scraps.

Wally can go from zero to light speed + in moments:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/FastLight.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/FastLight2.jpg

That was casual.

Throw in the fact that he can operate in attoseconds (As Kid Flash no less):
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/Attosecondreactiontime.jpg

Sees the world like his watching a DVD with the Speed Force regulating his speed:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/flash207_pyrate_p17.jpg

And the moment the bell rings, it's death.

Just for kicks, the (in)famous Infinite Mass Punch:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/InfiniteMassPunch5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/InfiniteMassPunch6.jpg

Enough striking power to pulverize the Anti-Monitor:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/DestroysAnti-MonitorArmor1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/DestroysAnti-MonitorArmor2.jpg

To make shit even more impressive, he was moving so fast that the Pre-Crisis counterparts of Earth's heroes couldn't track or see him, and right before the above scene, he had lent them some speed.

You think Surfer's tough? Wally outruns Death to the ends of time, past Entropy, the Big Bang and so on:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/TheBlackFlash15.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/TheBlackFlash16.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/TheBlackFlash17.jpg

And to those of you arguing or are going to argue that Surfer starts the match airborne? It doesn't help:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/AirSlowerThanFlash.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/FlashinSpace1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/FlashinSpace2.jpg

And just for fun, some death manipulation:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/Flashdeath3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/Flashdeath4.jpg

Been a while since I had a scan blitz. That was fun.

So whose the idiot that's arguing Wally can't throw a thousand punches in second?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So whose the idiot that's arguing Wally can't throw a thousand punches in a second?

Fixed?

What exactly did you fix?

The "can't" part.

So nothing.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So nothing.

Bitch, I did it before you edited your post.

Don't give me this "nothing" bullshit. uhuh

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Team 2 take it. From the get go both Wally and Zoom move at speeds faster than Team 1 could imagine, and pulverize them to scraps.

Wally can go from zero to light speed + in moments:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/FastLight.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/FastLight2.jpg

That was casual.

Throw in the fact that he can operate in attoseconds (As Kid Flash no less):
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/Attosecondreactiontime.jpg

Sees the world like his watching a DVD with the Speed Force regulating his speed:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/flash207_pyrate_p17.jpg

And the moment the bell rings, it's death.

Just for kicks, the (in)famous Infinite Mass Punch:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/InfiniteMassPunch5.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/InfiniteMassPunch6.jpg

Enough striking power to pulverize the Anti-Monitor:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/DestroysAnti-MonitorArmor1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/DestroysAnti-MonitorArmor2.jpg

To make shit even more impressive, he was moving so fast that the Pre-Crisis counterparts of Earth's heroes couldn't track or see him, and right before the above scene, he had lent them some speed.

You think Surfer's tough? Wally outruns Death to the ends of time, past Entropy, the Big Bang and so on:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/TheBlackFlash15.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/TheBlackFlash16.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/TheBlackFlash17.jpg

And to those of you arguing or are going to argue that Surfer starts the match airborne? It doesn't help:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/AirSlowerThanFlash.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/FlashinSpace1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/FlashinSpace2.jpg

And just for fun, some death manipulation:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/Flashdeath3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/Flashdeath4.jpg

Been a while since I had a scan blitz. That was fun.

Scan blitz ftw!

First the argument was that he can throw millonS of punches in less than a second.. then it even went up to a trillon LOL. Yet all I'm asking for is ONE scan that shows wally throwing even 1000 punches in less than a second in a combat situation. All the scans you posted couldn't even show 1,000 let alone millionS & TrillonS... Should be very simple request right, since of course, people are acting like it's a given and been seen on panel before in a combat situation.

Originally posted by batdude123
*****, I did it before you edited your post.

Don't give me this "nothing" bullshit. uhuh

ha-som

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
First the argument was that he can throw millonS of punches in less than a second.. then it even went up to a trillon LOL. Yet all I'm asking for is ONE scan that shows wally throwing even 1000 punches in less than a second in a combat situation. All the scans you posted couldn't even show 1,000 let alone millionS & TrillonS... Should be very simple request right, since of course, people are acting like it's a given and been seen on panel before in a combat situation.

"I could hit him a thousand times before he could blink."

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/InfiniteMassPunch5.jpg

Shut up now.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So whose the idiot that's arguing Wally can't throw a thousand punches in second?

*points at Kurupt Thanosi and quanchi*

💃

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
"I could hit him a thousand times before he could blink."

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/InfiniteMassPunch5.jpg

Shut up now.

hah! Kurupt Thanosi PWNED! 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
"I could hit him a thousand times before he could blink."

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/InfiniteMassPunch5.jpg

Shut up now.

but, but, surfer can move so fast he can travel to other galaxies in mere moments.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
"I could hit him a thousand times before he could blink."

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/InfiniteMassPunch5.jpg

Shut up now.

👆

And that was before the majority of Wally's most impressive feats.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
but, but, surfer can move so fast he can travel to other galaxies in mere moments.

Silver Surfer is a non-factor in this match-up ROFL! 😂