[QUOTE=13139292]Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I'm just playing your game. At least my side has produced feats... which you ignored.
Actually that isn't even close to being true. Your side has produced low showings from Thanos with circumstances. We have produced the same. Zoom being chained up.. zoom being lassoed by WW are just two examples.
"Doesn't matter, he wrote the feat of him doing it, that was the main part of the story, the "guess" at his speed is just a guess.[/B}
He intended one thing and did another.
Action>words. If I say I picked up 50 lbs and I really picked up 100 what matters more? What I said or actually did?
But he made him goa nother.
He stated him carrying 532,000 people 70 miles in .00001 microsecond, and that is what he did. If he went lightspeed he wouldn't have rescued anyone."
Actually, you're dead wrong and don't know how canon narration works it seems. When a writer says Hulk destroyed an asteroid two times the size of earth.. We don't look at the pretty drawing of the asteroid next to lets say Saturn and go well by scale and with my calculations.. there is no way that Asteroid is two times the size of earth. The writer wanted the feat to be him destroying a twice the size of the earth asteroid. PERIOD. He didn't need the artist to draw it exactly to scale in order for his words to be true. Now are you understanding how canon works and how the writers narration is greater than your speculation and questions about quantifying via you're own math. The writer intended him to go at light speed and that is the speed he was traveling.
"Yes I have, and that is general knowledge. I'm under the impression people don't even read these characters by the things they're saying, about Zoom especially.
I don't need to do anything. I go by their ability, and since it is turned up to the max here, that is what we use. Nothing more, nothing less. Sure beats making excuses.
Zoom has moved so fast that even Superman was a statue, case closed, they can't do anything to Zoom. Flash recites the speed formula and freezes them too "
Nope we understand their powers, what we don't understand is you giving them feats they have never come close to accomplishing. You thinking either can and them actually proving they can are too seperate issues. They aren't mutually inclusive but exclusive. Doing something in a combat situation is A LOT different than racing or saving people. You need to show them doing feats in combat situations which is what we are debating here. You have yet to provide ONE shred of evidence showing either of them doing what you claim they can do in a combat situation. No matter how much that bothers you, and how much you prefer to use your speculation, that doesn't cut it in this debate.
"He's done no such thing in a situation of this calibur.
One hit and they'll be seriously hurt, keep producing those hits and they are down. It won't take 1,000 either.
They've also been hurt by less.
I've already done this, let's not make things up, and read the rules. No PIS, and in this case Full Potential no CIS.
If he hurts him and they can't react, they get blitzed into ko."
One hit and they'll be seriously hurt? Is this a bad joke or something. Do you know what he term exponentional means? Thanos has taken exponentionally more punishment than these guys can produce in many many hits let alone one.
Are you unclear about Thanos NEVER being Ko'd via blunt force trauma i.e. punches? You just can't get around that point no matter how hard you want people to believe it will hurt Thanos. Him taking two shots from Magus wielding the IG and not being Ko'd, while similar blows killed others is an example. Him taking multiple shots from Thor with the PG, is yet again, in a whole other ballpark to what these guys can and will produce. Those are just two examples.. the list goes on and on with exponetionally more punishment than these guys can produce.. shots from Tyrant... hits from Odin, Walker etc etc. It goes on and on.
What's worse you not only can produce a shred of evidence of them fighting at the speeds you wish in a combat situation. You have no proof of them even KOing someone close to Thanos level let alone durability. The proof in this area without question is in my column. I have someone who is ultra durable, never been Ko'd by blunt force trauma, and take exponentionally more punishment without being KO'd than they can produce. To counter than you would need to show them KOing someone on Thanos level with Thanos durability. You cant come close to doing so, shoot you can even show them doing this to a herald level being. That means game over in this area.