Surfer and Thanos vs Wally West and Zoom, no PIS, CIS, BFR, or BS Megamatch!!!

Originally posted by shokosugi
*points at Kurupt Thanosi and quanchi*

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Thanos or the Surfer solos.

@Rage--Precrisis Flash beat on Anti Monitor which isn't the same as post crisis flash. Supergirl also beat the snot out of the Am.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
"I could hit him a thousand times before he could blink."

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/InfiniteMassPunch5.jpg

Shut up now.

So statements about one could do.. without actually doing it is proof now? A lawyer you certainly are not. That isn't proof. I want to see him actually doing it. Again, I just wanted to see something simple like that in a combat situation. That or them KOing someone on Thanos level or Surfer's... none exists. So I figured I'd ask for 1,000 punches in less than a second.. since I certainly know there is no millonS or billionS like people were claiming.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So statements about one could do.. without actually doing it is proof now?

Why would he lie in his narration? Who does that? 😛

Originally posted by Stall_19
Why would he lie in his narration? Who does that? 😛

No one is saying he was lying. However, what we see all the time is people being wrong about what they CAN REALLY DO and or false bravado. This happens all the time. All I'm asking for is somethign really simple... scans of him punching someone 1,000 times in less than a second.. him punching someone millionS of times in less than a second.. and him punching someone billionS of times in less than a second. Should be very easy to produce these feats in a combat situations, since people are claiming it's a given he can do that. Please then... show me when he has.

Wow the stupid in this thread is bad.People think that Surfer can be blitzed by any Flash?For shame.A grand total of 2 characters have shown a definite speed advantage over Surfer-The Runner and Galactus.

And go back and read Thanos vs. Odin if you think either has what it takes to put him down.

Team 1 for me.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When did I say thousands and this feat isn't that impressive he had more than enough time to talk and then some. This doesn't happen right out of the gate he needs to increase his speed to do so and we've already seen the Surfer miss while Thanos was fighting someone else going far faster than the speed of light to boot.

Thanos or the Surfer solos.

@Rage--Precrisis Flash beat on Anti Monitor which isn't the same as post crisis flash. Supergirl also beat the snot out of the Am.

Talk? That was his own inner monologue and thoughts. facepalm

Zero to lightspeed in basically no time.

What? How was that Pre-Crisis Flash? That was Post-Crisis Flash who was running through time in an attempt to save the Multiverse.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Talk? That was his own inner monologue and thoughts. facepalm

Zero to lightspeed in basically no time.

What? How was that Pre-Crisis Flash? That was Post-Crisis Flash who was running through time in an attempt to save the Multiverse.

That happened before coie changed all the characters and effected the dc multiverse.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, having all those thoughts isn't the same thing as instantaneous.

So because Flash was able to form conscious thoughts, that somehow reduces the impressiveness of the scene? facepalm

Flashes brain operates at speeds far beyond normal. In the one million saga, he was running billions of simulations in like a nanosecond or something else that ridiculous. He was out thinking the ultimate computer.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That happened before coie changed all the characters and effected the dc multiverse.

What? I don't understand what you're arguing here. This story took place after CoIE. This was Post-Crisis Flash traveling to the Pre-Crisis era.

What are the essential reason's why the kmc'rs think the speedsters will win?

I want to counter some of them, well I say that but I'm going to sleep

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So because Flash was able to form conscious thoughts, that somehow reduces the impressiveness of the scene? facepalm

Flashes brain operates at speeds far beyond normal. In the one million saga, he was running billions of simulations in like a nanosecond or something else that ridiculous. He was out thinking the ultimate computer.

What? I don't understand what you're arguing here. This story took place after CoIE. This was Post-Crisis Flash traveling to the Pre-Crisis era.

That's another flash and not applicable to this flash. he can think faster but then again so does Thanos and the Surfer so once again I don't see any advantage at all.

Thanos has already shown he can easily negate translight speed from the fallen one. This isn't even fair for the flash and zoom imo.

What comic was this in ? Maybe I am confused here.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So statements about one could do.. without actually doing it is proof now? A lawyer you certainly are not. That isn't proof. I want to see him actually doing it. Again, I just wanted to see something simple like that in a combat situation. That or them KOing someone on Thanos level or Surfer's... none exists. So I figured I'd ask for 1,000 punches in less than a second.. since I certainly know there is no millonS or billionS like people were claiming.

Couldn't just drop it could you?

A thousand punches in a second:
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/Wally_Respect3/thoupun.jpg

Two thousand punches per second:
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/Wally_Respect3/200ex.jpg

Originally posted by quanchi112
It wasn't just a thought or two it was around two pages of thoughts.

So?

This wasn't some random invidiual on the street, this was Wally's own internal monologue. He can run every possible scenario on a situation in a single nanosecond or less. His mind operates faster than the fastest super computer. That's why his mind can view the world as if paused:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/Timefreeze1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/Timefreeze2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/Timefreeze3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/Timefreeze4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Flash/Timefreeze5.jpg

His brain is just as fast as his body, hence him having thoughts does not take away anything from the feat.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's another flash and not applicable to this flash. he can think faster but then again so does Thanos and the Surfer so once again I don't see any advantage at all.

I don't even know what f*ck you're saying here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has already shown he can easily negate translight speed from the fallen one. This isn't even fair for the flash and zoom imo.

Negating faster thah light beings, does not in anyway mean or prove you can negate the Flash or Zoom.

And are you referring to the scene with the force field?

Question: Was it stated the Fallen One was moving faster than light? Just curious.

Originally posted by quanchi112
What comic was this in ? Maybe I am confused here.

This was during Mark Waid's run. Flash #149 or #150 I believe.

@ Rage

I still see nothing faster than what the Surfer has been shown capable of while traveling at fast speeds.

You stated about the 1 million version of the flash which is a different character than mainstream flash. How can you be confused when you brought up another version of the flash ? How ?

Fallen one's abilities are listed as faster than light and if you want an impressive reaction feat do I really need to post Thanos dodging the Surfer's lunge while fighting someone else entirely.

What volume and what year ?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Couldn't just drop it could you?

A thousand punches in a second:
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/Wally_Respect3/thoupun.jpg

Two thousand punches per second:
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee305/Wally_Respect3/200ex.jpg

Just wanna insert that none of those punches are IMP so I'm not sure how much damage they'd do to the Surfer, much less Thanos.

And a thousand punches a second isn't really that impressive, tbh.

Also, while time-freeze is surely impressive, it's actually been done in the MU, as well (Makarri and the Runner). IIRC, Makkari actually travelled to Earth from a distant galaxy and back and nothing moved from that point (far more impressive than the raindrop thing, IMO).

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
And a thousand punches a second isn't really that impressive, tbh.

Lol.

Would a bazillion punches a second be more to your liking?

Originally posted by batdude123
Lol.

Would a bazillion punches a second be more to your liking?

I meant it in the context of how that speed translates to being able to be responded to by the Surfer. He's demonstrated nanosecond reaction speed before, millisecond punches shouldn't really be that impressive to him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
@ Rage

I still see nothing faster than what the Surfer has been shown capable of while traveling at fast speeds.

Flash traveling so fast that Superman's at a standstill is far more impressive than anything I've seen Surfer do.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You stated about the 1 million version of the flash which is a different character than mainstream flash. How can you be confused when you brought up another version of the flash ? How ?

Oh. Iight, I see where the confusion came from. The feat I referenced happened during the one million story arc, but it was done by mainstream Flash. The Justice League had traveled into the far fauture.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Fallen one's abilities are listed as faster than light and if you want an impressive reaction feat

So that's a no.

Originally posted by quanchi112
do I really need to post Thanos dodging the Surfer's lunge while fighting someone else entirely.

You brought this feat up more than once. I'm confused. Did you not notice the Infinity Gauntlet on his hand?

Originally posted by quanchi112
What volume and what year ?

It was volume 2, and it came out in like 1999.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Just wanna insert that none of those punches are IMP so I'm not sure how much damage they'd do to the Surfer, much less Thanos.

I already posted the scan where Wally stated he could throw a thousand infinite mass punches before the White Martian could blink.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
And a thousand punches a second isn't really that impressive, tbh.

Show me Surfer doing anything that impressive in terms of combat speed.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Also, while time-freeze is surely impressive, it's actually been done in the MU, as well (Makarri and the Runner). IIRC, Makkari actually travelled to Earth from a distant galaxy and back and nothing moved from that point (far more impressive than the raindrop thing, IMO).

Never heard of that. Issue number?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Flash traveling so fast that Superman's at a standstill is far more impressive than anything I've seen Surfer do.

500,000 light years in seconds beats that easily if you talk about "traveling".

Heck, light years in seconds beats that, too.