Chaos king vs Thanos

Started by Power Cosmic II17 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
. Thanos' intelligence and problem solving is well beyond Galactus' level of thinking.

Hyperbolic statement that makes Stan Lee's writing look quaint.

Thanos has admitted G's scientific knowledge is beyond his own. In fact, nothing Thanos has engineered at a high level rivals anything that Doom has done at a high level.

As for problem solving? The only thing you have to base on that is the Hunger encounter, where Thanos was explicitly made to specify by starlin that he had greater experience with extra-dimensional phenomena than Galactus. In fact, Thanos even asked Galactus to follow his lead.

You don't ask someone with supposedly inferior problem solving and lesser intelligence to follow your rational analysis and threat assessment if you are comprehensively his superior. That makes NO sense.

How exactly did Thanos fare in Infinity War, which featured both he and Galactus making independent decisions and situations?

Wait a sec, I got that one: "Galactus was Thanos's overall superior".

Do I win a cookie?

ROFL

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Hyperbolic statement that makes Stan Lee's writing look quaint.

Thanos has admitted G's scientific knowledge is beyond his own. In fact, nothing Thanos has engineered at a high level rivals anything that Doom has done at a high level.

As for problem solving? The only thing you have to base on that is the Hunger encounter, where Thanos was explicitly made to specify by starlin that he had greater experience with extra-dimensional phenomena than Galactus. In fact, Thanos even asked Galactus to follow his lead.

You don't ask someone with supposedly inferior problem solving and lesser intelligence to follow your rational analysis and threat assessment if you are comprehensively his superior. That makes NO sense.

How exactly did Thanos fare in Infinity War, which featured both he and Galactus making independent decisions and situations?

Thanos has created a being far more powerful than Galactus himself and intelligence and problem solving as a whole has a lot more to do overall than one area. Thanos' tech has also been compared as superior to Doom's in the same story, sport.

Because Galactus was needed to defeat the Hunger. Key point is follow Thanos' LEAD. Thanks for backing me up.

Galactus was more powerful than Thanos at the time so no matter what he needed Galactus' cooperation in the task at hand. Thanos knew exactly how to defeat the Hunger whereas Galactus was clueless.

Thanos was a key point in defeating the Magus whereas Galactus was not. Magus also used a doppleganger of Thanos he didn't choose Galactus to assist him.

I mean wasn't Galactus tricked by an alternate un before ? That reeks of idiocy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I mean wasn't Galactus tricked by an alternate un before ? That reeks of horrible writting.

Fixed that for you...

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Fixed that for you...
Was Galactus an alternate reality Galactus ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Was Galactus an alternate reality Galactus ?

Doesnt even matter...

Any version of Galactus being "tricked" by a fake UN is just bad writting...

Originally posted by zopzop
But they never fought the LT right? All we have is on panel feats.

Thanos with IG threatened one universe and the LT never confronted him. LT ran from Korvac. Odin/Seth fighting threatened ALL reality and the LT never made an appearance to stop it. It's right there on panel.

Your posts are usually good Zop... but this stance is honestly laughable, and u should refrain from bringing it up. If the LT wanted to.. a mere simple thought n Odin, seth and any n all asgardians could be wipe out... with a mere thought. That is how insignificant they are to him powerwise

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos used her to find out what his true motives were showing he never completely trusted him. LOL.

Thanos set it up I suggest rereading it if you don't believe he met up with them and set the entire thing up. Don't be so upset Thanos wanted Galactus captured and how easy Thanos achieved this through others.

Well then Thanos not only made it possible but easy to understand you take away Galactus and there goes Annihilus' plans. That even adds to Thanos since he made it so easy to stop Ann's plans showing once again why Thanos is so effective.

Galactus is frequently if not always a prisoner of his hunger so Hiro using his dependence on old power is nothing out of character for the big dumb guy with a helmet. I mean the guy simply has no self control thus making him an easy target. Thanos' intelligence and problem solving is well beyond Galactus' level of thinking.

Ofcause he didn't, does that however in any way change the circumstances concerning what happen? Not at all, if anything it makes Thanos look worse, by expecting to be double crossed, anticipates it and still is taken complete aback by it.

So Thanos engineered Tenebrous and Aegis hatred for Galactus? Thanos was the ones that released them from the Kyln prison to assist him? Maybe you should consider rereading the story or open a dictionary to find out what exactly orchestrate would mean in the context in which you presented it. I'm not denying that Thanos profited from Tenebrous and Aegis desire for vengence but please don't be so naive as to think that Tenebrous and Aegis assisted Thanos because they were forced to or they in any way needed Thanos assistance to accomplishe what they did, because that is just pure speculation when everything on panel points to the contrary.

A rational line of thought that a 10 year old could have understood the logic behind or could have figured out by himself. That means in short that Thanos figuring this out isn't a feat to his level of intelligence.

Actually it is, Galactus was mad with interest in obtaining that kinda energy, which made him easy to manipulate. Just like Thanos was easily manipulated by Annihilus into capturing Galactus, the difference was that there was no outside force playing a part with Thanos, where there were one with Galactus. So Galactus was tricked because of his desire to appease his hunger, where as Thanos was tricked/outsmarted even though no force played a part. Thanos intelligence is higher then Galactus? ROFLOL, the day Thanos ship have knowledge "as boundless as infinity" let me know. Hell Thanos had no idea what kinda energy Galactus was turning the magma in the hunger series into to make the Star go Nova. You can play the "but thanos made a being twice as powerful as Galactus" a being that had at that point of time feasted on three planets when the statement was given, and lets not forget the most important part, that Thanos NEEDED Galactus dna to accomplish his feat, Galactus made Tyrant from scratch and still made him his equal, and didn't require the dna of anybody.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has created a being far more powerful than Galactus himself and intelligence and problem solving as a whole has a lot more to do overall than one area. Thanos' tech has also been compared as superior to Doom's in the same story, sport.

Doom has siphoned the power cosmic before and usurped the power. Thanos couldn't even figure out how to analyze the power cosmic without Galactus' own machines.

That's a far better assessment than some simple voyeur camera. Of course, that escaped you in your response.

Because Galactus was needed to defeat the Hunger. Key point is follow Thanos' LEAD. Thanks for backing me up.

No, the key point is that your extrapolation from an isolated sample is flawed. By your exact reasoning, you would tell a nobel prize winner in theoretical physics to "follow" your "lead" when it comes to presenting comic book theories to a public panel. You have specific knowledge and experience on that field, the prize winner has none, if any, but you need his status as a public figure so you can get your ideas across. Yet you would label yourself the more intelligent because he follows your lead, and you use him as a conduit. Do you understand the logic?

Galactus was more powerful than Thanos at the time so no matter what he needed Galactus' cooperation in the task at hand. Thanos knew exactly how to defeat the Hunger whereas Galactus was clueless.
specific knowledge, that really doesn't equate to a sweeping statement that thanos' intelligence is "on a higher level" than G's. I've been in a job that requires specific knowledge about credit derivatives, am I then on a higher level of intelligence than you because I have specific knowledge that you do not?

Thanos was a key point in defeating the Magus whereas Galactus was not. Magus also used a doppleganger of Thanos he didn't choose Galactus to assist him.
Adam Warlock defeated the Magus and Thanos was completely clueless about Warlock's plan the entire time. Galactus located the magus' base of operations while all thanos managed to do is have the portal closed on him when he tried to grab warlock in vein and battled his doppleganger in a hallway.

I mean wasn't Galactus tricked by an alternate un before ? That reeks of idiocy.

No, that would be more along the lines of Thanos using a helicopter to rob a bank, and being arrested by the NYPD.

Originally posted by Utrigita

So Thanos engineered Tenebrous and Aegis hatred for Galactus? Thanos was the ones that released them from the Kyln prison to assist him? Maybe you should consider rereading the story or open a dictionary to find out what exactly orchestrate would mean in the context in which you presented it. I'm not denying that Thanos profited from Tenebrous and Aegis desire for vengence but please don't be so naive as to think that Tenebrous and Aegis assisted Thanos because they were forced to or they in any way needed Thanos assistance to accomplishe what they did, because that is just pure speculation when everything on panel points to the contrary.

👆

indeed, Thanos' entire plan hinged on getting the Beyonder out from the kyln. Anything involving T&A onwards was straight up dumb luck.

T&A were already looking for Galactus some billions of years before Thanos was even born.

Originally posted by zopzop
Is that why all reality was threatened with destruction when they fought?
Yet nothing happened. Threatening means crap if nothing happens.

And beyond that he has no combat feats beyond IG.

Originally posted by zopzop
But they never fought the LT right? All we have is on panel feats.

Thanos with IG threatened one universe and the LT never confronted him. LT ran from Korvac. Odin/Seth fighting threatened ALL reality and the LT never made an appearance to stop it. It's right there on panel.

Yet nothing happened.

By combat feats they stomp both Odin, Seth, and all other skyfathers in a nanosecond.

LOL @ quan thinking thanos can beat galactus.

Big G stomps him every time.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Ofcause he didn't, does that however in any way change the circumstances concerning what happen? Not at all, if anything it makes Thanos look worse, by expecting to be double crossed, anticipates it and still is taken complete aback by it.

So Thanos engineered Tenebrous and Aegis hatred for Galactus? Thanos was the ones that released them from the Kyln prison to assist him? Maybe you should consider rereading the story or open a dictionary to find out what exactly orchestrate would mean in the context in which you presented it. I'm not denying that Thanos profited from Tenebrous and Aegis desire for vengence but please don't be so naive as to think that Tenebrous and Aegis assisted Thanos because they were forced to or they in any way needed Thanos assistance to accomplishe what they did, because that is just pure speculation when everything on panel points to the contrary.

A rational line of thought that a 10 year old could have understood the logic behind or could have figured out by himself. That means in short that Thanos figuring this out isn't a feat to his level of intelligence.

Actually it is, Galactus was mad with interest in obtaining that kinda energy, which made him easy to manipulate. Just like Thanos was easily manipulated by Annihilus into capturing Galactus, the difference was that there was no outside force playing a part with Thanos, where there were one with Galactus. So Galactus was tricked because of his desire to appease his hunger, where as Thanos was tricked/outsmarted even though no force played a part. Thanos intelligence is higher then Galactus? ROFLOL, the day Thanos ship have knowledge "as boundless as infinity" let me know. Hell Thanos had no idea what kinda energy Galactus was turning the magma in the hunger series into to make the Star go Nova. You can play the "but thanos made a being twice as powerful as Galactus" a being that had at that point of time feasted on three planets when the statement was given, and lets not forget the most important part, that Thanos NEEDED Galactus dna to accomplish his feat, Galactus made Tyrant from scratch and still made him his equal, and didn't require the dna of anybody.

He only did so because he was bored and it doesn't make it worse by any means. Through one simple action his entire plans were easily unraveled. I guess the universe suffers when Thanos grows bored. 🙂

Thanos didn't engineer it he used this to his advantage showing off why he's so damned good at being Thanos. He uses anything and others to achieve his means which is better than getting your own hands dirty.

I used it correctly.

It doesn't matter how simple or complicated a plan is only how effective. I mean you're grasping at straws here and have been from the first post where you dared claim Galactus' intelligence even rivals Thanos'. It's an insult.

Thanos isn't controlled by his hunger like Galactus is he was bored and saw another character favored by Death but never fully trusted him. Galactus was foolish to ignore Hiro Kala because he's overconfident in many showings another huge character flaw of his. He was easily manipulated by a child. That's just plain sad.

Galactus has always been more powerful than Thanos until imperative but now Thanos is more powerful than Galactus imo. Intelligence has never been even close Galactus might have better tech at his disposal some of the times but even Thanos on a botched experiment showed how easy it was for him to create a being far more powerful than Galactus.

In all of the infinity's, thanos imperative, thanos' own title when he's been involved in a story with Galactus he's always been crucial in defeating the threat while Galactus is just a pawn. Even warlock treated him as a pawn and the abstracts followed him because Galactus isn't anywhere near these guys in terms of intelligence.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Doom has siphoned the power cosmic before and usurped the power. Thanos couldn't even figure out how to analyze the power cosmic without Galactus' own machines.

That's a far better assessment than some simple voyeur camera. Of course, that escaped you in your response.

No, the key point is that your extrapolation from an isolated sample is flawed. By your exact reasoning, you would tell a nobel prize winner in theoretical physics to "follow" your "lead" when it comes to presenting comic book theories to a public panel. You have specific knowledge and experience on that field, the prize winner has none, if any, but you need his status as a public figure so you can get your ideas across. Yet you would label yourself the more intelligent because he follows your lead, and you use him as a conduit. Do you understand the logic?

specific knowledge, that really doesn't equate to a sweeping statement that thanos' intelligence is "on a higher level" than G's. I've been in a job that requires specific knowledge about credit derivatives, am I then on a higher level of intelligence than you because I have specific knowledge that you do not?

Adam Warlock defeated the Magus and Thanos was completely clueless about Warlock's plan the entire time. Galactus located the magus' base of operations while all thanos managed to do is have the portal closed on him when he tried to grab warlock in vein and battled his doppleganger in a hallway.

No, that would be more along the lines of Thanos using a helicopter to rob a bank, and being arrested by the NYPD.

Trying to steal odg's argument I see. who cares about the power cosmic how many years was Doom running around trying to fix his face and you think the guy is greater than Thanos ? Thanos has created greater clones than even Galactus himself which is far more impressive than just the power cosmic. It's not even close.

Omega's power level in terms of power>>Galactus>>>>any herald. It was even an abandoned project that's how good he is.

I do understand that when one character such as Galactus is completely clueless as to the Hunger's existence and how to deal with the threat afterwards and then another character Thanos orchestrates an effective plan in defeating the Hunger then in this showing Thanos is undoubtedly the more intelligent character in this story. You know I am correct.

This is just another example and I have already explained many more where Thanos' intelligence was also key in mega threats whereas Galactus serves as just another foot soldier/grunt. Ig and imperative are both perfect examples. This isn't rocket science Galactus is a very powerful, foolish, arrogant foot soldier whereas Thanos/Warlock are the brains of the operation.

Thanos had the true reality gem so Magus' plan was doomed from the start. I can produce scans proclaiming Thanos' involvement whereas Galactus was just a minor background character. He's used to it by now.

That's not canon. Thanos in terms of intelligence and leadership>>>>>Galactus.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
LOL @ quan thinking thanos can beat galactus.

Big G stomps him every time.

Thanos is far too powerful for Galactus and unkillable.

Originally posted by quanchi112

In all of the infinity's, thanos imperative, thanos' own title when he's been involved in a story with Galactus he's always been crucial in defeating the threat while Galactus is just a pawn. Even warlock treated him as a pawn and the abstracts followed him because Galactus isn't anywhere near these guys in terms of intelligence.

^^This.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos is far too powerful for Galactus and unkillable.
😂

Galactus is better then thanos in absolutely every way ever.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
😂

Galactus is better then thanos in absolutely every way ever.

Then prove it. You making a statement with no proof to it isn't debating.

CK.

thanos isn't winning this