Originally posted by quanchi112
Trying to steal odg's argument I see. who cares about the power cosmic how many years was Doom running around trying to fix his face and you think the guy is greater than Thanos ? Thanos has created greater clones than even Galactus himself which is far more impressive than just the power cosmic. It's not even close.
Stealing his argument? No, actually I just fabricated an instance of Doom succeeding at doing something several times for the same exact task in which Thanos couldn't attain success. I made that up just so I can sign up on this board and have this argument with you. 🙄
Thanos created Omega which spider-man was able to blind. What other great feats does Omega have that place him as a heavy weight on the versus forums? I must have missed those.
Omega's power level in terms of power>>Galactus>>>>any herald. It was even an abandoned project that's how good he is.Omega did what Rhino has done, which is get blinded by spider-man and lurch about like a simple minded creation, which he was. Funny that you tout intelligence so much when FP Tyrant would eat Omega and shit him out. DP Tyrant, spawn of Galactus, dominated Thanos who had prepped himself to confront him. Thanos brought heavy guns like Spider-Man to attack Omega. Please.
I do understand that when one character such as Galactus is completely clueless as to the Hunger's existence and how to deal with the threat afterwards and then another character Thanos orchestrates an effective plan in defeating the Hunger then in this showing Thanos is undoubtedly the more intelligent character in this story. You know I am correct.You understand that Galactus had minimal experience in extra-dimensional beings, which he admitted and Thanos questioned. As for the story as a whole? What were you reading?
Thanos has no idea what Galactus' tech was doing.
Thanos employed the aid of a telepath into gaining access to G's mind. He was almost killed for his idiocy, which Thanos realized that his plan was flawed and therefore dismissed Moondragon, admitting his prep against Galactus came up short.
Galactus outsmarted Thanos and Warlock and obtained the Soul Gem in a misdirection play before Thanos knew what was happening.
Thanos perceived the aberration in G's data but he had no vested, personal stake in the data. That only means thanos was more objective in his analysis. Not an indication whatsoever of greater intelligence.
And i won't let you forget that Thanos admitted it was stupidity on his part for creating Omega. LOL.
Thanos had the true reality gem so Magus' plan was doomed from the start. I can produce scans proclaiming Thanos' involvement whereas Galactus was just a minor background character. He's used to it by now.Thanos had no idea what Warlock's plan was and warlock declared he had assembled the full gauntlet which lead thanos to question how he had assembled the gauntlet when warlock never approached him to give up the reality gem. Please. Stop trying to pass warlock's plan off as thanos'. All thanos did was question why warlock stated he had the full gauntlet when thanos did nothing to relinquish the reality gem. So what exactly did thanos contribute to Magus' downfall. Tell me
Thanos in terms of intelligence and leadership>>>>>Galactus. Thanos is far too powerful for Galactus and unkillable.
Unkillable? he may be rejected by death but he is by no means beyond Oblivion's realm. Thanos gets ended if G really wants it.
Originally posted by Power Cosmic IIThanos never failed in his objective he jumped ship when he discovered Annihilus true intentions. Big diff.
Stealing his argument? No, actually I just fabricated an instance of Doom succeeding at doing something several times for the same exact task in which Thanos couldn't attain success. I made that up just so I can sign up on this board and have this argument with you. 🙄Thanos created Omega which spider-man was able to blind. What other great feats does Omega have that place him as a heavy weight on the versus forums? I must have missed those.
Omega did what Rhino has done, which is get blinded by spider-man and lurch about like a simple minded creation, which he was. Funny that you tout intelligence so much when FP Tyrant would eat Omega and shit him out. DP Tyrant, spawn of Galactus, dominated Thanos who had prepped himself to confront him. Thanos brought heavy guns like Spider-Man to attack Omega. Please.
You understand that Galactus had minimal experience in extra-dimensional beings, which he admitted and Thanos questioned. As for the story as a whole? What were you reading?
Thanos has no idea what Galactus' tech was doing.
Thanos employed the aid of a telepath into gaining access to G's mind. He was almost killed for his idiocy, which Thanos realized that his plan was flawed and therefore dismissed Moondragon, admitting his prep against Galactus came up short.
Galactus outsmarted Thanos and Warlock and obtained the Soul Gem in a misdirection play before Thanos knew what was happening.
Thanos perceived the aberration in G's data but he had no vested, personal stake in the data. That only means thanos was more objective in his analysis. Not an indication whatsoever of greater intelligence.
And i won't let you forget that Thanos admitted it was stupidity on his part for creating Omega. LOL.Thanos had no idea what Warlock's plan was and warlock declared he had assembled the full gauntlet which lead thanos to question how he had assembled the gauntlet when warlock never approached him to give up the reality gem. Please. Stop trying to pass warlock's plan off as thanos'. All thanos did was question why warlock stated he had the full gauntlet when thanos did nothing to relinquish the reality gem. So what exactly did thanos contribute to Magus' downfall. Tell me
LOL. I left you an impotent and impoverished poster in my thanos imperative thread, and i see you are in your personal reality of stating things in the hopes of making them true. There is absolutely nothing thanos has shown in the history of his existence that makes him more powerful than G. COMICAL! and if you are going to peddle that idiotic logic of killing unkillable entities, what are you going to have thanos do in forum matches? bring all his battles to a cancerverse so he can activate his powers and bring death to a deathless universe? News for you...versus battles take place on neutral ground. So much for thanos' "abstract level power" bias that you've unsuccessfully tried to push on the board.
Unkillable? he may be rejected by death but he is by no means beyond Oblivion's realm. Thanos gets ended if G really wants it.
Spiderman temporarily blocked his sight for a moment my argument was he was more powerful than Galactus he was an abandoned project anyways shows how easily Thanos can do something this monumental.
Rhino can't take on Thanos, Strange, warlock, genis and an entire crew all prepped to defeat him. That's the difference between these two. Power level si leaps and bounds greater than Galactus. That was my point it never had to do with overall formidability. Try to grasp my overall point before going off on another tangent.
I understand Thanos is more intelligent and you just admitted Galactus was ignorant of this matter which has to do with overall intelligence. Check and mate.
Thanos didn't have access to his tech, but give him time and he can improve upon it I mean he made a more powerful Galactus and abandoned thew project.
Galactus has also been tricked by a un before which is his own tech, correct ? LOL.
Thanos' tactic failed because he isn't all knowing but he still succeeded in his overall mission which was defeating Hunger whom Galactus unwittingly released.
Galactus was completely caught off guard by Hunger which means he's ignorant which only hurts your case.
Thanos rectified the situation later when he defeated the Hunger. Same situation they both were in yet Galactus was stupified due to his own ignorance.
Thanos isn't beyond making mistakes just like Galactus did when he created Tyrant, lol. Every herald too seems to backstab him eventually. Omega was more powerful than Galactus though which is my overall point but neither are beyond mistakes. LOL.
Thanos' involvement was vital as stated clear as day on panel. Warlock was also vital showing that both he and Thanos are more important to defeating the Magus than Galactus which which proves my point earlier about warlock being more intelligent as well in this regard.
Thanos Imperative proves it you can disagree all you want it's still true and you know it. Thanos was unkillable in the 616 universe as well. he can override life in a deathless universe. I never saw Galactus do so over there the best he could do was a stalemate with Celestials backing him.
What part of unkillable don't you understand ?
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Galactus crushes Thanos into a purple smear...And if Death refuses to take Thanos after that thrashing, then Galactus tell her to kiss his ass, then nukes Thanos to kingdom come with the Ultimate Nullifier...
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This is very much on topic, Quan, since you insist that Thanos>Galactus...
Galactus simply is subject to PIS on a regular basis, but any rational person knows that Galactus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanos....especially without the PIS element in effect.
Without PIS in effect, Galactus could FORCE Death to take Thanos, just like the Inbetweener forced Death to take the Elders; in the Galactus's case, though, he would simply threaten to nuke BOTH of them with the UN unless she complied...
She'd take his wretched a** then...and wear a s**t eatting grin while doing it!
🙂 🙂
But of course Galactus doesnt even need to take that course of action to do away with Thanos forever; he could just destroy his body then trap his soul...
Thanos would then be done with and out of the picture until the Big-G decides to release him...
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos isn't beyond being tricked he's not all knowing but he did have the power and means to rectify the situation. Galactus usually is just tricked.No, Thanos knew of their intentions and knew he wouldn't be attacked but he could easily evade them anyways had he wanted to. Manipulating others to do your will is indeed intelligence. Don't be mad at me that Thanos has others do his deeds for him.
I am glad you agree that the a-wave couldn't do anything to Galactus that's why annihilus needed thanos in the first place. Kudos again go to Thanos.
Hiro knew when he fed off the old energy that he would indeed be easily tricked. That's called intelligence and using a situation to your advantage. Galactus is naive and really does foolish things and this was another example. Hiro was smarter than Galactus here in this situation you can't ignore an event and say well if this hadn't happened Galactus would never have been tricked. This event did occur and he was tricked. 🙂
Thanos used Moondragon to attain the info whereas Galactus ignored Hiro and was manipulated quite easily. End of story. Thanos does something about it whereas Galactus just goes about his business.
Thanos was given the power of her as avatar of death. He was able to kill beings immune to death and was unkillable himself. Far more powerful than Galactus these days imo.
That's a few aspects of intelligence not overall. If you feel that tech and scientific knowledge are the only two aspects when determining intelligence then I'd giggle. Thanos' tech is greater than Galactus himself so I still say even in this area he wins out. Omega was greater than Galactus who was greater than Tyrant. LOL.
Galactus was so intelligent he didn't even know Tyrant had control over tech showing once again he's not very intelligent in critical situations.
All I hear is excuses from you in infinity war Thanos was vital to defeating Magus whereas Galactus played a role just not anywhere near as critical as Thanos'. Thanos had his own series and yes he defeated Hunger whereas Galactus was simply baffled by his existence let alone how to defeat him.
Grunts are needed in times of war and Galactus playes the grunt role well along with the Celestials but Thanos was responsible to ending this entire universe. 🙂 Poor Galactus.
Warlock is more intelligent than Galactus and when you follow someone else into battle usually this is the case hence Batman is more intelligent than Superman overall just like warlock is than Galactus.
So what if he isn't allowed to attend a meeting this even makes it worse for Galactus to have to follow him. 🙂
Omega>>>Galactus tech. Fact.
Galactus played a role like I said just not as significant as Thanos'. the guy is currently getting worked over in ck. The guy gets disrespected left and right and is known as a huge jobber and for being as powerful as he is that's even more shameful since he usually loses to beings with far less power.
Such intelligence. 🙂
look at the previous post, adjust as needed and write a equally circular reply. 🙂
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderI disagree I mean Galactus wasn't that effective despite being backed by Celestials against the life's universe's forces whereas Thanos set into motion events that defeated an entire universe.
This is very much on topic, Quan, since you insist that Thanos>Galactus...Galactus simply is subject to PIS on a regular basis, but any rational person knows that Galactus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanos....especially without the PIS element in effect.
Without PIS in effect, Galactus could FORCE Death to take Thanos, just like the Inbetweener forced Death to take the Elders; in the Galactus's case, though, he would simply threaten to nuke BOTH of them with the UN unless she complied...
She'd take his wretched a** then...and wear a s**t eatting grin while doing it!
🙂 🙂
But of course Galactus doesnt even need to take that course of action to do away with Thanos forever; he could just destroy his body then trap his soul...
Thanos would then be done with and out of the picture until the Big-G decides to release him...
💃
There's no mention of Thanos' soul having anything to do with his indestructible body. None.
Thanos killed beings in the cancerverse while weakened whereas Galactus didn't show the power to do so.
Originally posted by UtrigitaNice copout you misinterpreted my points which were clear and concise. Omega is more powerful than Galactus which is amazing considering he's an abstract.
look at the previous post, adjust as needed and write a equally circular reply. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
I disagree I mean Galactus wasn't that effective despite being backed by Celestials against the life's universe's forces whereas Thanos set into motion events that defeated an entire universe.There's no mention of Thanos' soul having anything to do with his indestructible body. None.
Thanos killed beings in the cancerverse while weakened whereas Galactus didn't show the power to do so.
PIS, PIS, PIS...surely you know they jobbed Galactus out during that arc? Well if you dont know that, then you should...
As pertains Thanos's "indestructible" body, it can be destroyed; Death can be destroyed, and Thanos is less than her, so he sure as hell can be destroyed...
And dont you believe that Thanos has a soul? I sure do...and with that being the case it can be trapped...and I am absolutely certain Galactus has the power and ability to accomplish this.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderYou can't just disregard Galactus losses that's not debating. He loses you accept it and deal with it.
PIS, PIS, PIS...surely you know they jobbed Galactus out during that arc? Well if you dont know that, then you should...As pertains Thanos's "indestructible" body, it can be destroyed; Death can be destroyed, and Thanos is less than her, so he sure as hell can be destroyed...
And dont you believe that Thanos has a soul? I sure do...and with that being the case it can be trapped...and I am absolutely certain Galactus has the power and ability to accomplish this.
Thanos' body was destroyed but his atoms returned. LOL.
I believe he has one but that doesn't have anything to do with him having an indestructible form at all.
When has Galactus altered anyone save a herald's soul ?
Originally posted by quanchi112
You can't just disregard Galactus losses that's not debating. He loses you accept it and deal with it.Thanos' body was destroyed but his atoms returned. LOL.
I believe he has one but that doesn't have anything to do with him having an indestructible form at all.
When has Galactus altered anyone save a herald's soul ?
As pertains Galactus, I know PIS when I see it...and I know you do too...you are just waving that big purple flag of yours screaming "Thanos wins!" as you prance around with a kool-aid smile on your face.
Galactus jobbed in that arc and you dam well know it; afterall, Galactus is jobbed out more than anyone else in Marvel...with the possible exception of The Champion and Eternity.
As pertains Galactus and souls, he has proven the ability to manipulate one...doesnt matter if it is his herald or not...he can do it and has done it on panel...there is no reason to believe he cant manipulate Thanos's soul as well.
Also, its incomprehensible to you that Galactus could destroy Thanos's body and then trap his soul before his body reformed?
Afterall, I am 100000000000% sure Galactus could come up with an antimatter weapon far more powerful than what Thanos has been subject to in times past...
Originally posted by quanchi112
Nice copout you misinterpreted my points which were clear and concise. Omega is more powerful than Galactus which is amazing considering he's an abstract.
No your "points" where the same as before. The only "major" difference is that you have been dragging some of your discussion with power cosmic II into our debate and I frankly see no reason to make a entire post to give roughly the same answer as he did/does. Where as what you said this time, in regards to what I said, haven't changed a niggle, hence adjust as needed.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderJobbing is an excuse fanboys cling to when needed. If you notice I never ever use the word jobbing. If he jobs or loses then you come to expect it from the character you can't dismiss his losses and only accept his victories.
As pertains Galactus, I know PIS when I see it...and I know you do too...you are just waving that big purple flag of yours screaming "Thanos wins!" as you prance around with a kool-aid smile on your face.Galactus jobbed in that arc and you dam well know it; afterall, Galactus is jobbed out more than anyone else in Marvel...with the possible exception of The Champion and Eternity.
As pertains Galactus and souls, he has proven the ability to manipulate one...doesnt matter if it is his herald or not...he can do it and has done it on panel...there is no reason to believe he cant manipulate Thanos's soul as well.
Also, its incomprehensible to you that Galactus could destroy Thanos's body and then trap his soul before his body reformed?
Afterall, I am 100000000000% sure Galactus could come up with an antimatter weapon far more powerful than what Thanos has been subject to in times past...
He's only manipulated heralds souls who have willingly accepted his power he's never manipulated souls from opposing foes, ever in combat. LOL at the desperation.
When has Galactus ever done so ? You need to first post scans of him destroying a body and trapping a soul for this ridiculous discussion to continue.
Thanos reforms so it doesn't matter.
Originally posted by UtrigitaNo, I correctly responded to each and every point of yours and you have decided to concede. I accept.
No your "points" where the same as before. The only "major" difference is that you have been dragging some of your discussion with power cosmic II into our debate and I frankly see no reason to make a entire post to give roughly the same answer as he did/does. Where as what you said this time, in regards to what I said, haven't changed a niggle, hence adjust as needed.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, I correctly responded to each and every point of yours and you have decided to concede. I accept.
Yes you responded, but did you response bring into the debate anything new? No your saying the same as you did in the previous post and the post before that, which I can't be asked to respond to yet again, hence my comment, adjust as needed, that isn't conceding, that is losing interest because of you bringing nothing new to the table.
Originally posted by UtrigitaYou have yet to respond to my post so yes you conceded.
Yes you responded, but did you response bring into the debate anything new? No your saying the same as you did in the previous post and the post before that, which I can't be asked to respond to yet again, hence my comment, adjust as needed, that isn't conceding, that is losing interest because of you bringing nothing new to the table.
Originally posted by guy222
quan is my eternal friend and imo, galactus wins vs him and so does the chaos kinghe's a fierce supporter of his fav character like we all champion one
i have no problem with him saying thanos wins
Quan is one of those guys who raises good points sometimes but when it gets around thanos you just aren't sure what to take away as rational arguments or fanboyism. In other areas he is fairly reasonable... When thanos isn't involved. But at least he isn't like sho-superman love... Or the combo to ko nuts...:-/