Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos never failed in his objective he jumped ship when he discovered Annihilus true intentions. Big diff.Spiderman temporarily blocked his sight for a moment my argument was he was more powerful than Galactus he was an abandoned project anyways shows how easily Thanos can do something this monumental.
Rhino can't take on Thanos, Strange, warlock, genis and an entire crew all prepped to defeat him. That's the difference between these two. Power level si leaps and bounds greater than Galactus. That was my point it never had to do with overall formidability. Try to grasp my overall point before going off on another tangent.
I understand Thanos is more intelligent and you just admitted Galactus was ignorant of this matter which has to do with overall intelligence. Check and mate.
Thanos didn't have access to his tech, but give him time and he can improve upon it I mean he made a more powerful Galactus and abandoned thew project.
Galactus has also been tricked by a un before which is his own tech, correct ? LOL.
Thanos' tactic failed because he isn't all knowing but he still succeeded in his overall mission which was defeating Hunger whom Galactus unwittingly released.
Galactus was completely caught off guard by Hunger which means he's ignorant which only hurts your case.
Thanos rectified the situation later when he defeated the Hunger. Same situation they both were in yet Galactus was stupified due to his own ignorance.
Thanos isn't beyond making mistakes just like Galactus did when he created Tyrant, lol. Every herald too seems to backstab him eventually. Omega was more powerful than Galactus though which is my overall point but neither are beyond mistakes. LOL.
Thanos' involvement was vital as stated clear as day on panel. Warlock was also vital showing that both he and Thanos are more important to defeating the Magus than Galactus which which proves my point earlier about warlock being more intelligent as well in this regard.
Thanos Imperative proves it you can disagree all you want it's still true and you know it. Thanos was unkillable in the 616 universe as well. he can override life in a deathless universe. I never saw Galactus do so over there the best he could do was a stalemate with Celestials backing him.
What part of unkillable don't you understand ?
Again does that in any ways change the fact that Thanos was tricked by Annihilus? No it doesn't, again it makes it worse since he was tricked while he anticipated it.Yes Thanos was lucky that Tenebrous and Aegis didn't decide that killing Galactus was what they wanted, instead of merely defeating and condemning him to be used as a weapon. Because had that been the case Thanos couldn't have done anything to prevent it, it might have taken Tenebrous three blasts to down Thanos completely, but don't be so naive as to think that Thanos accomplished what he did because he manipulated Aegis and Tenebrous into serving him. To even suggest such is completely ignoring the context. Thanos was capable of delivering Galactus to Annihilus easily because Tenebrous and Aegis wanted revenge, it's that simple. The entire Annihilus wave couldn't have done anything to Galactus, Annihilation #6 showed that quite clearly. Why do you think Thanos ran after the Maker in the first place, if the ressources he had access to was enough or something to offer anyone? Sorry how many times have a caught off guard Galactus been defeated in comics? Twice iirc.
I'm not making excuses, I'm providing what you like to leave out if you can, which is the context. And the context is that if Galactus hadn't crawed the energy of the old power, Hiro wouldn't have tricked him, it's that simple. So for the third or fourth time, Galactus was tricked by Hiro because he was mad after a certain kind of energy, which made him easy to manipulate, while Thanos was tricked even though he anticipated and expected it he was still manipulated and only Moondragon made it possible for him to attain the information he needed to realize that Annihilus had basically pulled him around the stage at his nose. For a guy you puts above Galactus that is alot worse for him, because he doesn't have a outside force playing a part on his thought process.
Which is absolutely no proof at all that supports your previous notation that Thanos is more powerful then Galactus. What Death did is of no consequance to the powerlevel Thanos operates on currently. but I'm sure you'll make the case that Thanos could have taken on the Galactus Engine and won...
How is intelligence normally measured in Marvel? by what scientific and technology the various characters employ, and just as before this thread as well as after this thread, the technology that Galactus has and the knowledge he posesses is far above Thanos, thus his intelligence is above Thanos. The fact that Thanos needed Galactus DNA speaks highly for the fact that Thanos couldn't by himself make a being equal to Galactus. A feat that Galactus easily accomplished using only mechanical parts to make a being that was his equal, and granted that it's you I'm debating against, you would also make the case that Tyrant was above Galactus. So Galactus accomplished something without needing anything from the outside, something that Thanos couldn't.
Galactus is just a grunt, was that why it was Galactus that begun the search for Magus with the five cosmic cubes and it was Galactus that was instrumental in ensuring that Eternity was freed and the Infinity Gauntlet reactivated, strangely intelligent grunt... And wouldn't it be strange in Thanos own comic to see him fail miserably to stop a threat. Fact is however that had Galactus not made a stand with the Celestials against the Galactus engine Thanos wouldn't have had a universe to save, that is the fact. So now Warlock is more intelligent as well... Good luck proving it, because the fact that you follow one doesn't mean that your more intelligent, in secret war Reed and Banner Hulk was following Captain America, but I guess that you would make the case that Captain America is more intelligent then both, which logical you should in order for your logic to match up.
Oh please do, because if we are talking about the same instance Adam Warlock wasn't even allowed to attend the meeting because Galactus suspected that Eternity would when Galactus freed him seek revenge on Adam Warlock, hence he brought Gamora.
Coulda, would, shoulda type arguments fail. Galactus has successful employed and used far more advanced technology then Thanos. On panel fact.
No it's the only aspect. Galactus lead the Celestials in Thanos Imperative, and was the one assembling the Abstracts against Thanos when he had the IG, it was Galactus that collected all the heroes to heroes to oppose Magus, it was Galactus that collected Dazzler and empowered her to a degree where she could take on Terrax, it was Galactus that got rid of the Impossible Mans alternate earth that was causing a ripple through the omniverse, etc. Galactus is far better in problem solving and arguably leading (when he actually does it) then Thanos is. Difference is that Galactus doesn't normally, like it's the case with Thanos, require a group to accomplishe anything.
there, you response, now adjust as needed.
Originally posted by UtrigitaI responded to your post you can't just say it doesn't count because you're too lazy to respond. As it stands I win.
And I responded to yours, with the comment "adjust as needed" because you presented nothing new Quanchi. There is therefore no reason to write a new response.
well throughout all the last 4 issue of chaos wars he goes around killing and absorbing everybody's powers...they show him ripping through all the pantheon of gods...killing nightmare and taking his powers...makes death herself run away from her own realm. Shows him absorbing Gaea
He empowered zues to hand galactus his ass...and they also show a shot of him dwarfing galactus and not even noticing he is even there next to him...kinda like galactus engine did