Bengal Tiger vs. Lion

Thoughts ?

Lion.

While smaller, Lions are born brawlers. Plus that thick mane (yes, am aware that some males don't grow one) serves as protection to the neck.

hmm Darkseid wins.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
hmm Darkseid wins.

Way overrated character and a fanboy magnet. Wolverine would wreck his shit.

Man-Thing wins

Originally posted by Robtard
Lion.

While smaller, Lions are born brawlers. Plus that thick mane (yes, am aware that some males don't grow one) serves as protection to the neck.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
hmm Darkseid wins.

Originally posted by Robtard
Lion.

While smaller, Lions are born brawlers. Plus that thick mane (yes, am aware that some males don't grow one) serves as protection to the neck.

Rubbish

Tiger´s weight advantage and strength make this a no contest.
It´s like some middle weight boxer fighting Mike Tyson, faster hit rate but going down well soon.

Lions normally hunt in groups, the females do the main hunting.

Tigers live alone most the time with a large revier, they hunt alone.

Originally posted by Robtard
Lion.

While smaller, Lions are born brawlers. Plus that thick mane (yes, am aware that some males don't grow one) serves as protection to the neck.

And they're not that much smaller. There's also their kill technique: tigers bite the neck from above, seeking to crush bone, while the lion bites from below, crushing the windpipe: a much easier way to kill.

Shere Khan vs Mufasa?

Hmm...as much as I like George Sanders/Tony Jay I think James Earle Jones is too much. 🙁

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Rubbish

Tiger´s weight advantage and strength make this a no contest.
It´s like some middle weight boxer fighting Mike Tyson, faster hit rate but going down well soon.

Lions normally hunt in groups, the females do the main hunting.

Tigers live alone most the time with a large revier, they hunt alone.

Rubbish you say? Let's see.

Lion's weight is close to a Bengal, though the Bengal is longer.

Strength is up in the air, though if you look at a male lion and a male Bengal, the lion seems to be a bit more heavily muscled. So a lion is likely stronger.

Female lions typically hunt in groups. Rogue male lions (ones with no pride) generally are loners. Males with a pride rarely hunt, only when they're out on extended patrols and then again, they're hunting alone.

The deciding factor is that a male lion's main purpose in life is to defeat another male lion, take his bitches and then spend the rest of his life fighting off hyenas and other male lions trying to take his pride. ie They're ****ing brawlers, this is what they do. Plus they have a mane to protect one of their vital spots.

Tiger's rarely fight each other and the fights are generally quick with one tiger fleeing.

Tigers because they're cool.

how about: Tamil Tiger vs a lion?

Originally posted by Robtard
Rubbish you say? Let's see.

Lion's weight is close to a Bengal, though the Bengal is longer.

True.

Originally posted by Robtard
Strength is up in the air, though if you look at a male lion and a male Bengal, the lion seems to be a bit more heavily muscled. So a lion is likely stronger.

False.

The Bengal Tiger is the strongest big cat, by a significant margin. For example, it drags, sometimes up to miles, beasts that weigh multiple hundreds of pounds, back to their feeding grounds.

Additionally, a tiger is more heavily muscled, but it is not apparent due to the longer fur that a tiger has. Also, the stripes act to hide the tiger so it is sort of an optical illusion of sorts to hide how muscular and imposing a tiger's physique actually is.

Originally posted by Robtard
Female lions typically hunt in groups. Rogue male lions (ones with no pride) generally are loners. Males with a pride rarely hunt, only when they're out on extended patrols and then again, they're hunting alone.

True. This can cause a male lion to be 'softer' than his more lonely counterparts. However, a fully matured male lion that doesn't hunt as often as his female counterparts, would still wreck any single female lion (there are probably exceptions, but those would be very rare).

Originally posted by Robtard
The deciding factor is that a male lion's main purpose in life is to defeat another male lion, take his bitches and then spend the rest of his life fighting off hyenas and other male lions trying to take his pride. ie They're ****ing brawlers, this is what they do. Plus they have a mane to protect one of their vital spots.

Tiger's rarely fight each other and the fights are generally quick with one tiger fleeing.

This definitely would not be the deciding factor on which one would win, however.

Bicnarok is much closer to the truth.

Things that should be considered:

Size: Tiger
Strength: Tiger, by a significant margin.
Biting power: Tiger by a significant margin.
Teeth: Tiger.
Claws: Tiger, easily. Longer and thicker.
Endurance: Tiger, by a significant margin. On top of that, the manes on a lion actually cause them to overheat much more quickly so they cannot exert themselves for too long. Even without the mane, lions cannot exert themselves for very long.
Fighting ability: Tiger, hands down. Tigers are very territorial and fight quite often compared to lions. This point, alone, is why tigers win this. No other points need to be made.
High end Feats: One or two tigers is all it takes to take down a bull rhino or elephant, which is far superior to the 15+ plus it takes for lions to take down the same prey. This means that the Tiger can inflict deeper wounds, faster, than a lion. It is rare for a pride to take out an adult rhino or elephant...but it only takes one or two tigers to do the same.
Speed: Tiger. The tiger swipes much faster than the lion.
Agility: Tiger, easily. They can jump significantly further than a lion. On top of this, they fight reared up on their hind legs and can use both paws, whereas, a lion fights with one paw at a time.
Smarts during a fight: Tiger. Tigers hold their heads back, more closely resembling a small cat than a lion. This prevents more "death" fights but still allows them to get in "strikes." Also, science shows that tigers are more intelligent than a lion.

Why is this even a debate?

Because people have forgotten that tigers and lions were already forced to fight and the tiger won almost every single fight. Why have we forgotten about this fact?

I know why: it's because, in captivity, the tiger usually submits and runs away from the lion because the tiger does not wish to fight and risk injury. However, when force to fight, the Tiger wins close to 100% of the time. This goes back to the tiger being more intelligent in a fight. This is similar to the typical martial arts situation in which the far better fighter refuses to fight those he could easily defeat...but when pressed, can easily beat the aggressors down.

Originally posted by dadudemon
True.

False.

The Bengal Tiger is the strongest big cat, by a significant margin. For example, it drags, sometimes up to miles, beasts that weigh multiple hundreds of pounds, back to their feeding grounds.

Additionally, a tiger is more heavily muscled, but it is not apparent due to the longer fur that a tiger has. Also, the stripes act to hide the tiger so it is sort of an optical illusion of sorts to hide how muscular and imposing a tiger's physique actually is.

True. This can cause a male lion to be 'softer' than his more lonely counterparts. However, a fully matured male lion that doesn't hunt as often as his female counterparts, would still wreck any single female lion (there are probably exceptions, but those would be very rare).

This definitely would not be the deciding factor on which one would win, however.

Bicnarok is much closer to the truth.

Things that should be considered:

Size: Tiger
Strength: Tiger, by a significant margin.
Biting power: Tiger by a significant margin.
Teeth: Tiger.
Claws: Tiger, easily. Longer and thicker.
Endurance: Tiger, by a significant margin. On top of that, the manes on a lion actually cause them to overheat much more quickly so they cannot exert themselves for too long. Even without the mane, lions cannot exert themselves for very long.
Fighting ability: Tiger, hands down. Tigers are very territorial and fight quite often compared to lions. This point, alone, is why tigers win this. No other points need to be made.
High end Feats: One or two tigers is all it takes to take down a bull rhino or elephant, which is far superior to the 15+ plus it takes for lions to take down the same prey. This means that the Tiger can inflict deeper wounds, faster, than a lion. It is rare for a pride to take out an adult rhino or elephant...but it only takes one or two tigers to do the same.
Speed: Tiger. The tiger swipes much faster than the lion.
Agility: Tiger, easily. They can jump significantly further than a lion. On top of this, they fight reared up on their hind legs and can use both paws, whereas, a lion fights with one paw at a time.
Smarts during a fight: Tiger. Tigers hold their heads back, more closely resembling a small cat than a lion. This prevents more "death" fights but still allows them to get in "strikes." Also, science shows that tigers are more intelligent than a lion.

Why is this even a debate?

Because people have forgotten that tigers and lions were already forced to fight and the tiger won almost every single fight. Why have we forgotten about this fact?

I know why: it's because, in captivity, the tiger usually submits and runs away from the lion because the tiger does not wish to fight and risk injury. However, when force to fight, the Tiger wins close to 100% of the time. This goes back to the tiger being more intelligent in a fight. This is similar to the typical martial arts situation in which the far better fighter refuses to fight those he could easily defeat...but when pressed, can easily beat the aggressors down.

Tiger wins then, this was so obvious...

Thanos solos.

Originally posted by dadudemon

Because people have forgotten that tigers and lions were already forced to fight and the tiger won almost every single fight. Why have we forgotten about this fact?

Proof?

Cos I googled and here's one where it states "the lion went to maul the tiger to death" and of what we see, the lion is the one pushing the fight.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4318948967926803903#

Eidt: Here's another:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2350723694252545958#

Edit: Animal Face Off agrees too. So "pwned", cos they're 100% correct.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Tiger wins then, this was so obvious...

That lion's obviously a poof, so it doesn't count.

Originally posted by Robtard
Lion.

While smaller, Lions are born brawlers. Plus that thick mane (yes, am aware that some males don't grow one) serves as protection to the neck.

I agree. If it weren't for the mane i think the Tiger would rock the Lion. Tigers are bigger stronger and faster but the instinctual target for most animals, especially big cats, is the throat.

Lions are used to fighting tigers are more used to hunting. Lions are calmer in general before a fight where tigers on average are more apprehensive and nervous because they aren't as used to these situations like lions are.

The mane also provides a significant advantage. Lion wins.

Anyone saying tiger stomps really hasn't a clue imo.

The Romans used to fight them in the coloseum. The tigers won most of the time.