Bengal Tiger vs. Lion

Originally posted by Mindship
I disagree, sir.

I believe movie animals are trained for things like this. Factor out the Folies (ie, all the 'roaring'😉, and you have two big cats looking more like they're playfighting than real deal (I've had cats; this is what they do). I believe I even saw ears up (not folded back) in many sequences (some of which looked repeated). This aside...

In the beginning of the fight (before they pull the man out), it looks like the tigress is indeed holding her own. Second half (after they pull the guy out): I see the lion getting a slight upperhand (eg, chasing the tigress 'round the perimeter). Before the hose comes on, they both have each other in their jaws.

When the water hits, the lion lets go, probably surprised. The tigress...well, it took her longer to get the message (I guess they're not as smart as lions, either. 😉 )

Lion

What about Leopards?

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Originally posted by The MISTER
Just an idea, those arranged fights may have been effected by the methods that they used to capture and provoke the animals. Starving them was a way to make them more ferocious and that may have weakened the lions more. Also you could consider that the tigers were more valuable to the romans and so they staged lopsided fights where the tigers had an advantage from the start. Just an idea of why the tigers may have dominated there, but of course I'm not sure.

No clue as to your thought but I'll add it was usually the now extinct Caspian Tiger against the also now extinct Barbary Lion.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
I saw it on a History Channel Show on TV

Originally posted by Nephthys
Because they sit around on their fat asses all day getting fatter off the work of others and rape their wives whenever they want and get away with it.

Merry Christmas!

Originally posted by quanchi112
Link ?

I already provided a link from PBS.

Originally posted by Mindship
I disagree, sir.

I believe movie animals are trained for things like this. Factor out the Folies (ie, all the 'roaring'😉, and you have two big cats looking more like they're playfighting than real deal (I've had cats; this is what they do). I believe I even saw ears up (not folded back) in many sequences (some of which looked repeated). This aside...

In the beginning of the fight (before they pull the man out), it looks like the tigress is indeed holding her own. Second half (after they pull the guy out): I see the lion getting a slight upperhand (eg, chasing the tigress 'round the perimeter). Before the hose comes on, they both have each other in their jaws.

When the water hits, the lion lets go, probably surprised. The tigress...well, it took her longer to get the message (I guess they're not as smart as lions, either. 😉 )

Several sequences are repeated but, no, there is no "mutual hold" at the end.

And, yes, it was a "fer realz" fight with each animal taking damage. As I mentioned earlier, it was one of the reasons we have rules about animals in movies and why people take pride in "no animals were harmed in the making of this film."

Originally posted by quanchi112
Correction. They acquire a pride after proving themselves to be elite and then they sit in their asses because as king you would have others do your work for you.

On top of that, they continue to hunt (just not as often as the Lionesses) and fight other lions. Additionally, they fight off other animals such as other big cats and hyenas.

Contrast this with the Tiger that is "solo" with the males fighting each other quite often (for big cats, they fight a lot). They male tigers tolerate females venturing into their territory, but not other males. Even then, they still fight other females. Also, as usual for mammals, the females do not tolerate other males in their territory as they raise cubs.

I would say that no lion stands a chance against a large, agressive, tiger. There are probably exceptions, but they would be rare. The lion is just too far outmatched in speed (contrary to the silly animal face-off giving speed to the lion...which is wrong), strength, and size.

http://tigervslionfight.blogspot.com/

Several items indicate tiger victories. I would like to point out that the portion that says the "lion" is lazier and avoids conflict is false...sort of. The male tiger is more agressive in defending his territory against other male tigers, for sure...and Tigers have been known to be "vengeful" but taking revenge against the people that have wounded them (mostly anecdotes...but kind of creepy, if you think about it), but a tiger, when out of it's territory, will almost always back away from conflict because it cannot gamble it's life on a silly scuffle when they are solitary animals: a lion can. This also points out that a Tiger is smarter than a lion...at least in strategy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Discovery channel pitted them and lions won. Correction. .

You mean animal face off..I saw that, but it's not a real fight, just speculation. The Romans staged real fights.

lol i pop into the gdf and what do i see? quanch making a vs thread! it's a classic debate though so thought i'd throw my 2cents in.

i'd say that most of the time a tiger would likely win the fight. it has a fairly insignificant size and strength advantage and it's bite force is also quite a bit greater. the tiger has also been shown to be able to kill a large variety of big game-esque animals from crocodiles to even black and brown bears. an interesting fact is that lions usually figth on 3 legs and the tiger balances on its hind legs--a big advantage. it doesn't NEED to attack the neck. it would go for the eyes. paw-to-paw the tiger takes it. i actually like lions better than tigers, (living near detroit though, i'm convinced a small child could take either....) but i'd take a tiger maybe 7/10. one factor that could upset the tiger applecart though is serious injury. the tiger would literally have to kill the lion to win. the lion however could win by injuring the lion. lions tend to fight to the death and not flee. tigers (according to big cat experts) will sometimes flee to avoid being seriously injured. assuming they both stay and fight to the death though, i'd say tiger more often than not.

Originally posted by leonidas
lol i pop into the gdf and what do i see? quanch making a vs thread! it's a classic debate though so thought i'd throw my 2cents in.

i'd say that most of the time a tiger would likely win the fight. it has a fairly insignificant size and strength advantage and it's bite force is also quite a bit greater. the tiger has also been shown to be able to kill a large variety of big game-esque animals from crocodiles to even black and brown bears. an interesting fact is that lions usually figth on 3 legs and the tiger balances on its hind legs--a big advantage. it doesn't NEED to attack the neck. it would go for the eyes. paw-to-paw the tiger takes it. i actually like lions better than tigers, (living near detroit though, i'm convinced a small child could take either....) but i'd take a tiger maybe 7/10. one factor that could upset the tiger applecart though is serious injury. the tiger would literally have to kill the lion to win. the lion however could win by injuring the lion. lions tend to fight to the death and not flee. tigers (according to big cat experts) will sometimes flee to avoid being seriously injured. assuming they both stay and fight to the death though, i'd say tiger more often than not.

Originally posted by leonidas
lol i pop into the gdf and what do i see? quanch making a vs thread! it's a classic debate though so thought i'd throw my 2cents in.

i'd say that most of the time a tiger would likely win the fight. it has a fairly insignificant size and strength advantage and it's bite force is also quite a bit greater. the tiger has also been shown to be able to kill a large variety of big game-esque animals from crocodiles to even black and brown bears. an interesting fact is that lions usually figth on 3 legs and the tiger balances on its hind legs--a big advantage. it doesn't NEED to attack the neck. it would go for the eyes. paw-to-paw the tiger takes it. i actually like lions better than tigers, (living near detroit though, i'm convinced a small child could take either....) but i'd take a tiger maybe 7/10. one factor that could upset the tiger applecart though is serious injury. the tiger would literally have to kill the lion to win. the lion however could win by injuring the lion. lions tend to fight to the death and not flee. tigers (according to big cat experts) will sometimes flee to avoid being seriously injured. assuming they both stay and fight to the death though, i'd say tiger more often than not.

There is one correction in your post that needs to be made:

The tiger, when equal in size to a lion, is significantly stronger than a lion. The cats are built different from one another.

Originally posted by dadudemon
There is one correction in your post that needs to be made:

The tiger, when equal in size to a lion, is significantly stronger than a lion. The cats are built different from one another.

you're right. oops. i said a fairly INSIGNIFICANT size and strength advantage. what i MEANT to say was a fairly SIGNIFICANT size and strength advantage. pologies for the mix up. 😮

and mindship: LEOnidas? heh i get it.....

on the plus side, i like the surfer's odds against the tiger. and happy holidays my friend. 😄

Originally posted by leonidas
on the plus side, i like the surfer's odds against the tiger.

and happy holidays my friend. 😄

Originally posted by leonidas
you're right. oops. i said a fairly INSIGNIFICANT size and strength advantage. what i MEANT to say was a fairly SIGNIFICANT size and strength advantage. pologies for the mix up. 😮

and mindship: LEOnidas? heh i get it.....

on the plus side, i like the surfer's odds against the tiger. and happy holidays my friend. 😄

Oh. lol

Well, size difference is not that much. It's the strength difference that is significant.

440-500lbs for the lion versus 480-580 lbs for the tiger.

Both males.

There are accounts of 800lbs tigers, though. But this is not the extreme versions versus each other.

Originally posted by Mindship
As long as the tiger is never worthy to wield Mjolnir, he'll do just fine.

lol

nice......