Bengal Tiger vs. Lion

Originally posted by Robtard
Proof?

Cos I googled and here's one where it states "the lion went to maul the tiger to death" and of what we see, the lion is the one pushing the fight.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4318948967926803903#

Eidt: Here's another:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2350723694252545958#

Edit: Animal Face Off agrees too. So "pwned", cos they're 100% correct.

Animal face-off makes lots of logical errors in their calculations, quite frequently. So does deadliest warrior.

So you found a couple of links, big deal.

Let's stick with something more credible than sensationalized animal fights.

It should be common knowledge among "Roman History" lovers that Romans pitted Tigers against Lions, quite often. The victor, almost 100% of the time, was the Tiger.

"When the ancient Romans set tiger against lion in the coliseum, the tiger invariably won."

http://www.pbs.org/edens/bhutan/a_tiger.htm

While you find exceptions, Robtard, I'll stick with the rule and disregard the garbage from Animal Face-Off.

Many of the "Lion fanboys" quote Clyde Beatty because Clyde Beatty was quite the Lion Fanboy when it came to Lion's vs. Tigers. However, Clyde did not speak often about his best fighting lion male being taken down by a Tiger. IMO, this is where a lot of Lion fanboyism comes from: it's unscientific,
good-ol'-boy", tripe. You can be a big-cat expert and still be wrong about statements about big-cats.

Also, I remember reading about a tiger seeking out and destroying a male lion from Descent of Man...a quick google search for what I was looking for netted me this, on my first try:

http://books.google.com/books?id=yesRAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA672&lpg=PA672&dq=In+1857+a+tiger+at+Bromwich+broke+into+the+cage+of+a+lion&source=bl&ots=WT2WetnEeQ&sig=Cj27DF_DGLglJdCVBYivZsH-9XE&hl=en&ei=PzYVTawtjLywA4ms9dsK&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=In%201857%20a%20tiger%20at%20Bromwich%20broke%20into%20the%20cage%20of%20a%20lion&f=false"

“In 1857 a tiger at Bromwich broke into the cage of a lion and a fearful scene ensued: ‘the lions mane saved his head and neck from being much injured, but the tiger at last succeeded in ripping up his belly, and in a few minutes he was dead."

Also, here is a site dedicated to dispelling the many Lion Fanboy lies:

http://jackjacksonj.webs.com/liesfromlionfanatics.htm

Here is a youtube video of a medium sized tigress taking it to a large male lion, a famous fight scene which contributed to the "no animals were harmed in the making of this film" line:

YouTube video

Note that the tigress holds her own against a much bigger Lion. Towards the end, she almost killed the Lion. The Lion had given up (overheating due to the mane, not as much endurance, etc.) and was getting choked out. Thankfully the hose came along, right?

What would the fight have been like had it been a larger male tiger (more aggressive than his tigress counter part, to boot)?

But that's just one video. What if that was a low showing from a large male lion? Could be. But what about the outcomes in the coliseum being almost universally in favor of the Tiger? Meh.

I do not like the fact that people made/make these animals fight, though. 🙁

It is possible these animals actually encountered, and fought, each other in the wild though it would be the now almost extinct, and slightly smaller than it's African cousin, Asiatic Lion. Sadly Tigers are almost extinct in the wild also. It sickens me that any humans would make them fight.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Animal face-off makes lots of logical errors in their calculations, quite frequently. So does deadliest warrior.

So you found a couple of links, big deal.

Let's stick with something more credible than sensationalized animal fights.

It should be common knowledge among "Roman History" lovers that Romans pitted Tigers against Lions, quite often. The victor, almost 100% of the time, was the Tiger.

"When the ancient Romans set tiger against lion in the coliseum, the tiger invariably won."

http://www.pbs.org/edens/bhutan/a_tiger.htm

While you find exceptions, Robtard, I'll stick with the rule and disregard the garbage from Animal Face-Off.

Many of the "Lion fanboys" quote Clyde Beatty because Clyde Beatty was quite the Lion Fanboy when it came to Lion's vs. Tigers. However, Clyde did not speak often about his best fighting lion male being taken down by a Tiger. IMO, this is where a lot of Lion fanboyism comes from: it's unscientific,
good-ol'-boy", tripe. You can be a big-cat expert and still be wrong about statements about big-cats.

Also, I remember reading about a tiger seeking out and destroying a male lion from Descent of Man...a quick google search for what I was looking for netted me this, on my first try:

http://books.google.com/books?id=yesRAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA672&lpg=PA672&dq=In+1857+a+tiger+at+Bromwich+broke+into+the+cage+of+a+lion&source=bl&ots=WT2WetnEeQ&sig=Cj27DF_DGLglJdCVBYivZsH-9XE&hl=en&ei=PzYVTawtjLywA4ms9dsK&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=In%201857%20a%20tiger%20at%20Bromwich%20broke%20into%20the%20cage%20of%20a%20lion&f=false"

“In 1857 a tiger at Bromwich broke into the cage of a lion and a fearful scene ensued: ‘the lions mane saved his head and neck from being much injured, but the tiger at last succeeded in ripping up his belly, and in a few minutes he was dead."

Also, here is a site dedicated to dispelling the many Lion Fanboy lies:

http://jackjacksonj.webs.com/liesfromlionfanatics.htm

Here is a youtube video of a medium sized tigress taking it to a large male lion, a famous fight scene which contributed to the "no animals were harmed in the making of this film" line:

YouTube video

Note that the tigress holds her own against a much bigger Lion. Towards the end, she almost killed the Lion. The Lion had given up (overheating due to the mane, not as much endurance, etc.) and was getting choked out. Thankfully the hose came along, right?

What would the fight have been like had it been a larger male tiger (more aggressive than his tigress counter part, to boot)?

But that's just one video. What if that was a low showing from a large male lion? Could be. But what about the outcomes in the coliseum being almost universally in favor of the Tiger? Meh.

I do not like the fact that people made/make these animals fight, though. 🙁

That PBS link on tigers read like it was written by some tiger fanboy to someone with an outright quasi-sexual tiger fetish.

So it seems you have a video from a film that depicts a lion on the losing end as I have video showing the opposite. "Big deal" would apply as well. Though yours seemed like from a Hollywood film. My second footage appeared to be actual footage set in the outdoors.

Agreed, it is sick. There's footage from Asia where they frequently pit many lions against many tigers so they can masturbate to it. Asians.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
The Romans used to fight them in the coloseum. The tigers won most of the time.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Link ?

I saw it on a History Channel Show on TV

Tiger. Lion's are lazy-ass ****ers who just go around killing cubs and crap. They're pretty much douchebags. Tigers are goddamn hardcore by comparison. Also, what Dadudeman said.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Lions are used to fighting tigers are more used to hunting. Lions are calmer in general before a fight where tigers on average are more apprehensive and nervous because they aren't as used to these situations like lions are.

The mane also provides a significant advantage. Lion wins.

Anyone saying tiger stomps really hasn't a clue imo.

You think so? The only thing Lions are used to fighting is each other and that is only when the males are trying to find a mate, beside that the male Lions are lazy as hell 😂

Tiger. They're forecast to go extinct by 2015. And the tigers know it--they have to give every fight all they've got. It's only the way to impress their human gods who might deign to show them mercy once Tribulation is upon them.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Tiger. They're forecast to go extinct by 2015. .

In the wild. It's estimated there are now fewer than 3000 wild tigers, down from 5000 ten years ago, and down from over 100,000 in 1900. There are about 20,000 in captivity.

By 2050 it's likely tigers, lions, jaguars, and possibly even leopards, will exist only in captivity. You can definitly add all species of rhino, all the great apes, probably all elephants, and polar bears, to that list as well.

Sadly, the human population will swell to 9-10 billion further crowding out other living things.

so, what you are saying is that it is awesome man is here to stop these things from disappearing forever?

Why the hell are lions referred to as King of the Jungle?

Because they sit around on their fat asses all day getting fatter off the work of others and rape their wives whenever they want and get away with it.

Merry Christmas!

Sounds like white people.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Sounds like white people.

Brad Pitt's line from Troy makes more sense when you think about it: "We are lions!"

Tigers are much larger. I'll place my bets on the Tiger.

Originally posted by The Dark Cloud
The Romans used to fight them in the coloseum. The tigers won most of the time.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Exactly. It's a common misconception that primates are the primeval ancestors of humans. Most humans, maybe. But white people descended from lions.

Brad Pitt's line from Troy makes more sense when you think about it: "We are lions!"

Brad Pitt: "We are Lions!!"

His enemy: "Yeah? Well we're TIGERS!!!"

Brad Pitt: "Wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut?"

From what I've seen the animals seem very evenly matched at ability to fight, and thus the tiger seems to have an advantage by being bigger and stronger than the lion.

Originally posted by dadudemon
YouTube video

Note that the tigress holds her own against a much bigger Lion. Towards the end, she almost killed the Lion. The Lion had given up (overheating due to the mane, not as much endurance, etc.) and was getting choked out. Thankfully the hose came along, right?

I believe movie animals are trained for things like this. Factor out the Folies (ie, all the 'roaring'😉, and you have two big cats looking more like they're playfighting than real deal (I've had cats; this is what they do). I believe I even saw ears up (not folded back) in many sequences (some of which looked repeated). This aside...

In the beginning of the fight (before they pull the man out), it looks like the tigress is indeed holding her own. Second half (after they pull the guy out): I see the lion getting a slight upperhand (eg, chasing the tigress 'round the perimeter). Before the hose comes on, they both have each other in their jaws.

When the water hits, the lion lets go, probably surprised. The tigress...well, it took her longer to get the message (I guess they're not as smart as lions, either. 😉 )

YouTube video