Originally posted by Black bolt z
No it wasn't.It was east city.Its like blowing up manhattan....a small island isn't that impressive.Well within the range of a high meta.ANd he still doesn't have any real good physical or durability feats to speak of.
Again, the blast was een outside of space as plain as day, that isn't a nuke. Show me a high meta doing that? Show me a low to mid herald doing that while holding back. Show me or stop derailing the thread.
Why doesn't he have good physical feats? Goku as a child was a 100 tonner. Nappa is league more stronger than goku. Nappa was creating mini hurricanes by just swinging his arms. His durability is up there as well. Goku as a teen walkw through nukes... nappa is a great deal mor durable than that version of goku. Hell, nappa was more physically powerful than piccolo and picollo in the regular dragonball episode tanked a moon busting kamehameha from goku without a scratch.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
There are streetlevelers who can be Universal threats. It doesn't necessarily say much about personal power.
With their brains. Frieza, being a transsexual retard, wouldn't be a universal threat with his brains, I assure you.
And Carver, Goku said the entire universe could be in danger according to the actual source. He never said he would blow it up in one blast.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
With their brains. Frieza, being a transsexual retard, wouldn't be a universal threat with his brains, I assure you.And Carver, Goku said the entire universe could be in danger according to the actual source. He never said he would blow it up in one blast.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
There are streetlevelers who can be Universal threats. It doesn't necessarily say much about personal power.
Lol... so street levelers can destroy planets. Show me a street leveler that has been classified as a universal level threat. Show me a high herald being classified as a universal threat.
King ki words... "if goku doesn't stop frieza, his rage could consume the universe."
Goku words... "if I don't stop frieza, he will destroy the universe".
Originally posted by TheTyrant
With their brains. Frieza, being a transsexual retard, wouldn't be a universal threat with his brains, I assure you.And Carver, Goku said the entire universe could be in danger according to the actual source. He never said he would blow it up in one blast.
Yeah, I know that's what goku said and I don't think frieza could destroy a universe with a blast either but I do consider him a universal threat.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol... so street levelers can destroy planets. Show me a street leveler that has been classified as a universal level threat. Show me a high herald being classified as a universal threat.King ki words... "if goku doesn't stop frieza, his rage could consume the universe."
Goku words... "if I don't stop frieza, he will destroy the universe".
TAO. Doom (he's Low Herald). Reed Richards (Mid/High Meta). Kang the Conquerer (High Meta/Low Herald). Alex Luthor Jr.
That could mean a lot of things. It could mean that his armies would conquer the Universe Kang style.
Right. Because Goku many times proved himself to be a highly knowledgeable person who had a firm grasp on how vast a place the Universe is. 🙄
Originally posted by Rhiaggo
So lets count the ways Frieza loses to Thanos:1. Frieza has no feats resisting TP attacks and Thanos is one of the best TP guys in comics. There is nothing to suggest Frieza has the mental defence to resist a TP attack from Thanos.
DBZ characters were displaying telepathic feats in early Dragonball... It's reasonable to assume that if TP was an effective meathod of negotiating Freiza, it would have been used there...
But we can not show you evidence of Frieza's telepathic resistance directly... so point to you I guess.
Calling Thanos one of comic's best TP users though... that's an outright farce.
Originally posted by Rhiaggo
2. Thanos has a force shield durable enough to take shots from Galactus...so unless you're going to argue that Frieza>Galactus then explain how Frieza will even hurt him.3. Thanos stood quite nicely to a fight against a PG wielding Thor (who wreckd a team of top tiers) and Odin, so Thanos has the physical durability to survive a fight with a peak skyfather even without a force field.
4. Thanos has reacted to bullrushes from SS and the fallen, who both travelled at FTL speeds so his reactions are easily some of the best in comics today.
5. Thanos had the energy output to physically knock Galactus back, and I doubt I need to tell you how powerful Galactus is.
So in other words here is the problem:
What evidence do you have that Frieza can avoid being mind raped?
What evidence do you have that he can get past a force shiled from Thanos?
What evidence do you have that Frieza's stirkes or Ki blast will even flinch Thans?
What evidence do you have that Frieza is faster then what Thanos can react to?
What evidence do you have that frieza could survive a attack (either physical or projectile) from Thanos and avoid being oneshotted?
At some point you are really going to have to understand that logic isn't a one-way street and your lame ass attempt to beckon us to adhere to an argument set upon fallacies like this ad logicam or ad ignorantiam DON'T make a strong case for your position here when that nonsense can EASILY be flipped around.
What evidence do you have that anyone can mind rape Frieza?
What evidence do you have that shows Thanos' shields can resist casually tossed planet busting CHI attacks... and resist them in succession of dozens or hundreds?.... Because from all appearances by Marvel chi based abilities can be vastly different than simple brute power... For example Iron Fist knocking out the Wrecking Crew when superpowered punches often fail, taking out Beastdevil, Hulk...
What evidence do you have of Thanos tanking chi based abilities on a casual planet busting level and in succession of dozens or hundreds?
What evidence do you have of Thanos able to successfully fight, counter, and react to someone of Freiza consistent level of fighting speed?
What evidence do you have that Thanos could resist a casual planet busting CHI based attack (either physical or projectile) from Freiza and avoid being one-shotted?
Do you understand how weak this kind of argument comes off?
You should.... it is afterall YOUR argument. 😐
Originally posted by Omega Vision
You missed the point.TAO. Doom (he's Low Herald). Reed Richards (Mid/High Meta). Kang the Conquerer (High Meta/Low Herald). Alex Luthor Jr.
That could mean a lot of things. It could mean that his armies would conquer the Universe Kang style.
Right. Because Goku many times proved himself to be a highly knowledgeable person who had a firm grasp on how vast a place the Universe is. 🙄
Frieza corporation was dead and goku knew nothing of frieza corporation. King ki told goku not to face frieza because of his power consuming the universe. He didn't say frieza army or tech would destroy the universe, he was talking aout frieza himself.
We all know goku isn't the brightest of them all but he does have the ability to feel how much power a person could generate... so any words that goku say about a characters power holds weight since he can look at a person and tell if this person could destroy a city, planet, solar system etc...
So doom is a universal threat?
Does this really matter?
King Cold made reference to his powerlevel being at a solar system busting level, Frieza being close to that....
Considering power stacking, Frieza's ability to destroy a star shouldn't be a question either IMO. 😬
As far as the sun killing DBZ characters.... the sun incinerated Voidtry's body too... Don't see what relivence a sun killing an already beaten/weakened/etc character has to do with this thread.
Originally posted by TheTyrant
Frieza's corporation spanned across a galaxy. 99% of them weren't dead.Plus, Vegeta told Goku about Frieza's corporation and how they made saiyans 'bad' when he was about to die and shed the tears.
That doesn't change anything since goku nor king ki even hinted on frieza corporation having anything to do with frieza consuming the universe.