Cross Genre Match #21: Frieza vs Thanos

Started by Creshosk85 pages

Originally posted by jinzin
... but wait.....

JUBES BLEW A VAMPIRE?!?!? 😬

It's possible. but we have no way of knowing exactly how close she was to Xarvus.

Originally posted by Creshosk

Faster than the eye can see is NOT light speed. Or else Wolverine is lightspeed.

tell me something else I already know.

I NEVER said faster than the eye can see = light speed. so don't even understand the point of this comment.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Circular reasoning.

Faster than the eye can see is NOT light speed. Or else Wolverine is lightspeed. You'd know that if you'd looked at anything other than the fact that there are a bunch of links.

It's not just being faster than the eye can see...

It's being faster than someone who can pick up on things in detail than the human eye can see...

and then being faster than that guy can see

and so on and so forth until you get to Frieza....

Wolverine would have to be pwning away at speedsters left and right as part of his typical showings to be considered even remotely worth talking about compared to the DBZ roster... 😬

Originally posted by Creshosk
Unless proven its synonamous. And still against the rules.
so I guess you have no opinion on this fight then...nor could you. since nothing could be proven.

Originally posted by jinzin
WHA?! Jubes blew a vamp?!

No, I'm just messing with him.

But who knows what happened off-panel... 😗

Originally posted by Creshosk
Let him have his fantasy. its the only thing he can get after all.

Want me to give you a hug?

Originally posted by Starscream M
tell me something else I already know.

I NEVER said faster than the eye can see = light speed. so don't even understand the point of this comment.

Freeza moves faster than the eye can see, HE'S UBER FAST!
Woplverine moves faster than the eye can see. Wolverine isn't as fast as freeza.

Double standard much?

And you get on my case for going after the DBZ side, while not actually being on the Thanos side, and not going after the thanos people as a double standard?

Yeah, you're an uber hypocrite for calling me a hypocrite while you ARE one.

Originally posted by Starscream M
so I guess you have no opinion on this fight then...nor could you. since nothing could be proven.
That's actually accurate.

I'm not conviced that Thanos wins. I just don't like the arguments the DBZ side is making.

Originally posted by jinzin
It's not just being faster than the eye can see...

It's being faster than someone who can pick up on things in detail than the human eye can see...

and then being faster than that guy can see

and so on and so forth until you get to Frieza....

Wolverine would have to be pwning away at speedsters left and right as part of his typical showings to be considered even remotely worth talking about compared to the DBZ roster... 😬

So again its extrapolation and no hard evidence.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So again its extrapolation and no hard evidence.
Why don't you show me some evidence about thanos...and I'll take them apart like you're doing. it's not hard taking apart evidence...its hard showing it.

you haven't shown one damn thing about thanos.

Originally posted by Starscream M
Why don't you show me some evidence about thanos...and I'll take them apart like you're doing. it's not hard taking apart evidence...its hard showing it.

you haven't shown one damn thing about thanos.

Where did I ever even claim Thanos would win?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Circular reasoning.

Faster than the eye can see is NOT light speed. Or else Wolverine is lightspeed. You'd know that if you'd looked at anything other than the fact that there are a bunch of links.

Except the DBZ speeds aren't stated to be lightspeed simply based off ambiguous movement visuals alone

They actually have instances of lightspeed or near lightspeed reactions, a couple from as far back as Dragon Ball.

And for the issue of their travel speed being unimpressive, its quite simple. There was a scan posted on another forum (I'll try to hunt it down) that established that DBZ guys can only maintain their top speeds in spurts, and then it trails off into steadier speeds. As opposed to the normal comic convention where heroes build up steadily to their top speed and then can hold it indefinitely.

Let's not bullshit. Wolverine would never be able to tag a DBZ character, he can tag Thanos without much trouble though.

Thanos is no Superman. He has no reaction feats that put him on Superman's combat speed level, Clark is some guy who the DBZ combat speed argument fails against as he's done more complex things at Super speeds than simply punch and kick. (Like building a city in seconds) Things that would be unthinkable for DBZ characters, let alone Thanos.

Originally posted by Creshosk
So again its extrapolation and no hard evidence.

Yes actually.. It is. As far as that post/reasoning was concerned anyway.

Although we could apply power levels to speed as well for a more quantified picture... we already know they mean nothing to you in this thread..

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Except the DBZ speeds aren't stated to be lightspeed simply based off ambiguous movement visuals alone

They actually have instances of lightspeed or near lightspeed reactions, a couple from as far back as Dragon Ball.

I don't recall that. Could you post a scan or a reference to about when it happened if you don't have a scan?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Where did I ever even claim Thanos would win?
so then what is the overarching purpose of your singular demand of evidence from the dbz side? where's your questioning of the thanos side? esp if you haven't made up your mind...wouldn't it logically follow that you need evidence of both to compare?

Originally posted by Creshosk
So again its extrapolation and no hard evidence.
Ironically you did the exact same with the Surfer example.

Originally posted by jinzin
Although we could apply power levels to speed as well for a more quantified picture...
Then do it. I'd ask for specifics but those are apparently useless quesitons.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Ironically you did the exact same with the Surfer example.
Not really, someone already posted a scan of Thanos beating up surfer.

Originally posted by Starscream M
so then what is the overarching purpose of your singular demand of evidence from the dbz side? where's your questioning of the thanos side? esp if you haven't made up your mind...wouldn't it logically follow that you need evidence of both to compare?
You know I've answered this before. Go away troll.

Originally posted by Creshosk
You know I've answered this before. Go away troll.
yeah, you said something about not being familiar with thanos while you knew about dbz

usually logic would dictate that you would if anything...question the thanos supporters for evidence to back up their points...since you claim you don't know much about him.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Not really, someone already posted a scan of Thanos beating up surfer.

In hand to hand.. where the hell in that example is Surfer moving ftl? 😕